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Post by LA Times on Jul 5, 2019 7:13:09 GMT -5
Its obvious a shift is coming. PG era is coming to an end which I guess might mean the end of the Mattel deal as well. Hasbro? Hasbro is also a children's toy company. Maybe it's NECA
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Post by alanpartridge on Jul 5, 2019 10:21:26 GMT -5
Great.... but I don’t believe it until proven otherwise. This. I swear somebody says the attitude era is set to return every year.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jul 5, 2019 14:34:17 GMT -5
Is PG SUX still a thing? I thought we were into WILDCARD SUX these days.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jul 5, 2019 15:56:31 GMT -5
Great.... but I don’t believe it until proven otherwise. This. I swear somebody says the attitude era is set to return every year. Corey literally said Sh#t and Kofi gave the FU to Joe...
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Post by theicwguy on Jul 5, 2019 15:58:20 GMT -5
Hasbro is also a children's toy company. Maybe it's NECA NECA would be sick but they retail for like twice an elite do they not?
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Post by LA Times on Jul 5, 2019 16:42:48 GMT -5
Hasbro is also a children's toy company. Maybe it's NECA NECA would be sick but they retail for like twice an elite do they not? Yeah, but they are the adult toy company with the most presence in mass retail
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Post by vampiro666 on Jul 5, 2019 19:47:17 GMT -5
I think everyone is also forgetting that USA along with other networks have allowed cussing with out it being bleeped out on air now so maybe wwe just finally realized it and that they can use it to their advantage some on each show to draw the ratings up more so it doesn't necessarily mean the return of the attitude era but if they are planning on extending the time of the show to 4 hours then it probably could mean something such as they make the 8-10 time slot stay PG and then the 10-12 time slot basically attitude era content since kids will be in bed by then and it's mostly adults watching that late
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Post by FLUX '97 on Jul 5, 2019 22:36:11 GMT -5
Is PG SUX still a thing? I thought we were into WILDCARD SUX these days. YOU NEVER KNOW WHO'LL SHOW UP, COREY!
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Post by aggressiveperfectpoor on Jul 7, 2019 4:45:08 GMT -5
Kofi flipping the bird was uncharacteristic and its gonna take an a$$ ton more for me to like him or acknowledge that hes even champion He won the title, he beat Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania, he's doing the best he can given what he's got to work with. There was no ery or controversy in how he won the belt, he's literally champion, deal with it.
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Post by Iron Bison on Jul 7, 2019 7:18:23 GMT -5
Kofi flipping the bird was uncharacteristic and its gonna take an a$$ ton more for me to like him or acknowledge that hes even champion He won the title, he beat Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania, he's doing the best he can given what he's got to work with. There was no ery or controversy in how he won the belt, he's literally champion, deal with it. Yeah, after tossing pancakes and acting a total goof for the past several years? Yeah, Real champion material. Edit: look I know all this is total bs and wrestling is not legit, yadda yadda. I just hate his booking or creative, if you will.
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Post by aggressiveperfectpoor on Jul 7, 2019 9:39:30 GMT -5
He won the title, he beat Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania, he's doing the best he can given what he's got to work with. There was no ery or controversy in how he won the belt, he's literally champion, deal with it. Yeah, after tossing pancakes and acting a total goof for the past several years? Yeah, Real champion material. Edit: look I know all this is total bs and wrestling is not legit, yadda yadda. I just hate his booking or creative, if you will. He was over as though, so they put the strap on him. After 11 ing years of busting his ass he broke through. Who would you have had them put the belt on, Randy ing Orton? It was my favorite moment by far of Mania, seeing a guy who I thought was awesome yet could almost see the words "Glass Ceiling" painted on his chest in 2008 (I marked out like I did when Bryan, and when RVD won it as well) but through as a huge " you" to all of his detractors. It was awesome. Why should he be punished for "Bad Booking"? Why should anyone have their career deemed beyond reprieve due to "Bad Booking". That's like punishing the victim of a crime. Dude went with it and overcame it. The crowd believed in him, and voila. WWE Champion.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 7, 2019 13:54:42 GMT -5
I'll never understand why WWE can't just do both.
Why can't RAW be well... raw. A lil edgier. A lil more violent. A lil sexier. Give us a 30 minute steel cage classic that ends with someone bleeding in the center of the ring. Let the talent use more adult language (within reason). Let storylines appeal more towards older fans. It's on cable, so use that. The type of show Heyman was made to book.
Then have SD as a PG child friendly program. Have SD be the place where your "Super Cena" goes to overcome the giant beasts. A Saturday Morning wrestling show but on Friday nights. Take your vitamins, say your prayers, kind of thing. Move talent kids will gravitate to. Bayley, Heavy Machinery, No Way Jose type. Being PG on basic cable makes sense. This is something I think Bischoff would excel at.
It'd give each show an unique feel. There's so much talent. There's so much TV time. There's so many wrestling fans out there that don't all want the same thing. Why not appeal to everyone? Why not give everyone something that they want all under the WWE umbrella?
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jul 7, 2019 14:00:54 GMT -5
Here's what I have to say on it:
Marvel is the biggest creative property on the planet at the minute, and kids and grown-ups alike obssess over it in their droves.
They say Chocolate Shark, have bloody fights, are sexually suggestive etc and find a way to get away with it. WWE could do the same if they were willing to devote the time and creative brain power to it.
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Post by rkmo: 10 Month Notice on Jul 8, 2019 1:13:47 GMT -5
Funny timing, currently watching Balor-Joe from NXT Dallas right now lol
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Post by FLUX '97 on Jul 8, 2019 1:15:03 GMT -5
I'll never understand why WWE can't just do both. Why can't RAW be well... raw. A lil edgier. A lil more violent. A lil sexier. Give us a 30 minute steel cage classic that ends with someone bleeding in the center of the ring. Let the talent use more adult language (within reason). Let storylines appeal more towards older fans. It's on cable, so use that. The type of show Heyman was made to book. Then have SD as a PG child friendly program. Have SD be the place where your "Super Cena" goes to overcome the giant beasts. A Saturday Morning wrestling show but on Friday nights. Take your vitamins, say your prayers, kind of thing. Move talent kids will gravitate to. Bayley, Heavy Machinery, No Way Jose type. Being PG on basic cable makes sense. This is something I think Bischoff would excel at. It'd give each show an unique feel. There's so much talent. There's so much TV time. There's so many wrestling fans out there that don't all want the same thing. Why not appeal to everyone? Why not give everyone something that they want all under the WWE umbrella? Honestly, the way the rosters are built right now, this option makes a ton of sense. Not to mention, it's a pretty damn good idea.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Jul 8, 2019 5:20:18 GMT -5
I'll never understand why WWE can't just do both. Why can't RAW be well... raw. A lil edgier. A lil more violent. A lil sexier. Give us a 30 minute steel cage classic that ends with someone bleeding in the center of the ring. Let the talent use more adult language (within reason). Let storylines appeal more towards older fans. It's on cable, so use that. The type of show Heyman was made to book. Then have SD as a PG child friendly program. Have SD be the place where your "Super Cena" goes to overcome the giant beasts. A Saturday Morning wrestling show but on Friday nights. Take your vitamins, say your prayers, kind of thing. Move talent kids will gravitate to. Bayley, Heavy Machinery, No Way Jose type. Being PG on basic cable makes sense. This is something I think Bischoff would excel at. It'd give each show an unique feel. There's so much talent. There's so much TV time. There's so many wrestling fans out there that don't all want the same thing. Why not appeal to everyone? Why not give everyone something that they want all under the WWE umbrella? I could have sworn Fox was asking for a bit more of the edgier content. Vince and company were looking for ways to implement it maybe? Paul and Eric being added to the mix was the perfect jumping point I believe. Maybe that’s why the ended up on those shows. Paul’s dealt with USA for a long time, and Eric knows what it’s like to have to explain decisions to executives, answering directly to Turner once upon a time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 5:43:29 GMT -5
They can throw around all the swear words they want but they neither have the talent to pull off the kinds of content they were making 10-20 years ago, nor the political climate to get away with even half of those storylines.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jul 8, 2019 11:48:39 GMT -5
I'll never understand why WWE can't just do both. If Snickers got 500 complaints about something that happened on Raw, they’re not going to respond with “well, we only sponsor WWE based on the content on SmackDown.” Financially, WWE would lose out significantly from doing stupid “edgy” stuff on Raw just to placate the kind of fans who were already complaining constantly for seven years before Raw went PG anyway.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Jul 8, 2019 11:55:48 GMT -5
He won the title, he beat Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania, he's doing the best he can given what he's got to work with. There was no ery or controversy in how he won the belt, he's literally champion, deal with it. Yeah, after tossing pancakes and acting a total goof for the past several years? Yeah, Real champion material. Edit: look I know all this is total bs and wrestling is not legit, yadda yadda. I just hate his booking or creative, if you will. I agree with you 100%. NOW Kofi is going to be all edgy giving the middle finger? Too forced and lame for a guy who is suppose to be the ultimate underdog with oh so many kids loving him.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Jul 8, 2019 12:13:07 GMT -5
WWE has moved away from I think away from some of the real child oriented storylines. We still have few. But, think of 2009/2010. 2010 if were talking PG, it was the most PG of PG to say the least. 2011 I think forward brought back more adult oriented angles with Punk, The Hall of Pain. Although we still got stupid Angles, but when do we not get stupid angles. I think 2012 WWE had style advantage for appealing to children audiences.. 2012 was one of my least favorite years of the product. The only enjoyable thing was the origin of the Shield, Cena/Rock, ''the Downfall of Cena's life'', Punk's title reign, and Team Hell No at times. For example you had a three hour. They're was heavier areas of story development, silly weekly things for the kids like Brodus Clay, you had just causal matches for causal watcher or again a kid. SmackDown still was somewhat like separate show. It centered around the World Heavyweight Championship, but wasn't heavy on story development. It was perfect for the parents who enforce a bed time. Because it's not a school night, SmackDown really just felt like rematches from Raw, Teddy Long making tag team matches every week, and baby face carrying the show. Hell, they had Saturday Morning Slam.
So let's also consider who do they mean by teens. Are they just trying to bring it up notch to 12-14 yr olds? I think allowing a couple of more swear words to drop in good taste, more personal rivalries, stronger story development, and more adult themed concepts will do wonders.
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