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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 23, 2019 8:51:01 GMT -5
Enjoyed the show, largely because of the current roster angles. McIntyre with the beat down, Hawkins and Ryder actually getting a somewhat passable match with War Machine, the backstage Mike and Maria stuff was on point, Samoa Joe and Reigns was all fantastic, Heyman and Rollins were fantastic together, and we at least got AJ vs Rollins for a brief moment. The 24/7 stuff was more entertaining than not. I enjoyed seeing DX/NWO/BC all out there together. Thought they handled the Billy Gunn thing nicely with Rollins. I really wish AJ and HBK would have a match at Mania. So a big part of me was hoping Shawn would hit AJ with a superkick to plant that seed.
Gripes; RVD should have wrestled that match instead of Mysterio, and I thought the ending of the show was horrendous. Drunk, sentimental, dad outfit, Stone Cold is not for me. My heart rate ticked up when that glass shattered. So that feeling is still there, but, much like the Rock at times when he returns, I felt like we got Steve Williams the man instead of Steve Austin the character that everyone loved. I did think Flair looked great, all things considered.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 23, 2019 10:16:53 GMT -5
Enjoyed the show, largely because of the current roster angles. McIntyre with the beat down, Hawkins and Ryder actually getting a somewhat passable match with War Machine, the backstage Mike and Maria stuff was on point, Samoa Joe and Reigns was all fantastic, Heyman and Rollins were fantastic together, and we at least got AJ vs Rollins for a brief moment. The 24/7 stuff was more entertaining than not. I enjoyed seeing DX/NWO/BC all out there together. Thought they handled the Billy Gunn thing nicely with Rollins. I really wish AJ and HBK would have a match at Mania. So a big part of me was hoping Shawn would hit AJ with a superkick to plant that seed. Gripes; RVD should have wrestled that match instead of Mysterio, and I thought the ending of the show was horrendous. Drunk, sentimental, dad outfit, Stone Cold is not for me. My heart rate ticked up when that glass shattered. So that feeling is still there, but, much like the Rock at times when he returns, I felt like we got Steve Williams the man instead of Steve Austin the character that everyone loved. I did think Flair looked great, all things considered. I agree about the current roster stuff! Even with all the Legends, I never felt the current roster was made to look inferior. But I'm not sure if Impact would let RVD wrestle. I'm pleasantly surprised they let him appear. Good on them. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 23, 2019 10:20:45 GMT -5
Enjoyed the show, largely because of the current roster angles. McIntyre with the beat down, Hawkins and Ryder actually getting a somewhat passable match with War Machine, the backstage Mike and Maria stuff was on point, Samoa Joe and Reigns was all fantastic, Heyman and Rollins were fantastic together, and we at least got AJ vs Rollins for a brief moment. The 24/7 stuff was more entertaining than not. I enjoyed seeing DX/NWO/BC all out there together. Thought they handled the Billy Gunn thing nicely with Rollins. I really wish AJ and HBK would have a match at Mania. So a big part of me was hoping Shawn would hit AJ with a superkick to plant that seed. Gripes; RVD should have wrestled that match instead of Mysterio, and I thought the ending of the show was horrendous. Drunk, sentimental, dad outfit, Stone Cold is not for me. My heart rate ticked up when that glass shattered. So that feeling is still there, but, much like the Rock at times when he returns, I felt like we got Steve Williams the man instead of Steve Austin the character that everyone loved. I did think Flair looked great, all things considered. During RVD's divorce a few years ago he said WWE would not ever clear him to wrestle again due to past concussions. TNA apparently doesn't care about his safety and long term health. |
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Post by weaseltv on Jul 23, 2019 10:23:44 GMT -5
It's a bit telling that Austin was still more over than the whole WWE roster, and all he did was talk and drink in the ring...
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Post by Chip on Jul 23, 2019 10:26:03 GMT -5
The main roster stuff mixed in was your typical RAW. nothing really stood out and really just felt like a generic show to try and "promote" to a new audience, because Vince believed that he'd get all these millions of people to tune in for one show. Usos win your standard RAW tag match, Roman overcomes the odds, Rolllins & AJ's match is all kinds of overbooked because DX & nWo and Drew's beatdown of Cedric was just silly waste of time.
Since half the Legends appearances revolved around the 24/7 title I wish they would just scatter stuff like that out across the year. Instead of cramming all in one night.
So honestly it was just another episode of RAW to me, the bonus was seeing Austin in the ring at the end, even if it was just the typical WWE lovefest promo he cut. The guy still just has everything.
And RAW really needs Cena back in the worst way
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Post by Chip on Jul 23, 2019 10:29:26 GMT -5
It's a bit telling that Austin was still more over than the whole WWE roster, and all he did was talk and drink in the ring... people keep saying that (and im not jumping on you specifically) but its like they dont even remember what it was like Austin was the biggest WWE superstar in history. Austin outsold Hogan, Rock, everyone before him. For like 4 years there was literally nobody better than Steve. He defined an entire generation. He was absolutely everything about wrestling. And the biggest thing about this current appearance is that HE DOESN'T SHOW UP ALL THE TIME. He's not like Sgt. Slaughter or Booker T or Lawler, he hasn't been around a lot. So the novelty hasn't worn off. Of course he's more over than the current roster. Nobody ever in wrestling will be at the level Austin was....and it's been maintained because of how amazing that time was. It's just silly to compare the current product to Austin in his prime, its not relevant at all. We need to be looking at Cena as the guy to compare the current crop to. the era of Cena, Edge, Orton is more relatable now. Austin (like Rock) is just on an entirely different planet |
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 23, 2019 11:01:24 GMT -5
I agree about the current roster stuff! Even with all the Legends, I never felt the current roster was made to look inferior. But I'm not sure if Impact would let RVD wrestle. I'm pleasantly surprised they let him appear. Good on them. Probably some of the best use of weaving the legends into the fabric of the show we've had on a Raw of this style. Foley too as a setup to Bray. I think once upon a time Heyman said if he was given the keys to the TNA castle he would have fired almost everyone over 40. So, assuming he gets credit for most/some of this direction, I think he put that theory to practice last night by making the current talent still feel like the stars. That's also why I'm being patient with this whole Brock thing this time around. I thought RVD's deal with TNA was like a pay per appearance type of thing for the length of an angle but I didn't even think about him being under contract with them and showing up on Raw. So I guess fortunate we got him at all given the circumstances. The RVD vs Rollins matches we got from 2014 were so fun. Would have loved a little piece of that last night with him and Sami. During RVD's divorce a few years ago he said WWE would not ever clear him to wrestle again due to past concussions. TNA apparently doesn't care about his safety and long term health. Ahhh, I didn't realize that was going on. That makes a ton of sense. I won't be too critical of TNA on that one without knowing the details. The Daniel Bryan ordeal is proof it doesn't matter if you're cleared or not, WWE doesn't have to let you be an injury liability for them. RVD is almost 50, too. The risk/reward on that probably doesn't make sense for them. |
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Post by bad guy™ on Jul 23, 2019 14:28:57 GMT -5
Enjoyed the show, largely because of the current roster angles. McIntyre with the beat down, Hawkins and Ryder actually getting a somewhat passable match with War Machine, the backstage Mike and Maria stuff was on point, Samoa Joe and Reigns was all fantastic, Heyman and Rollins were fantastic together, and we at least got AJ vs Rollins for a brief moment. The 24/7 stuff was more entertaining than not. I enjoyed seeing DX/NWO/BC all out there together. Thought they handled the Billy Gunn thing nicely with Rollins. I really wish AJ and HBK would have a match at Mania. So a big part of me was hoping Shawn would hit AJ with a superkick to plant that seed. Gripes; RVD should have wrestled that match instead of Mysterio, and I thought the ending of the show was horrendous. Drunk, sentimental, dad outfit, Stone Cold is not for me. My heart rate ticked up when that glass shattered. So that feeling is still there, but, much like the Rock at times when he returns, I felt like we got Steve Williams the man instead of Steve Austin the character that everyone loved. I did think Flair looked great, all things considered. During RVD's divorce a few years ago he said WWE would not ever clear him to wrestle again due to past concussions. TNA apparently doesn't care about his safety and long term health. And yet Kurt wrestled probably more matches in two years than Brock has since 2011. WWE doesn't care about health THAT much. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 23, 2019 15:27:43 GMT -5
During RVD's divorce a few years ago he said WWE would not ever clear him to wrestle again due to past concussions. TNA apparently doesn't care about his safety and long term health. And yet Kurt wrestled probably more matches in two years than Brock has since 2011. WWE doesn't care about health THAT much. According to Kurt Angle he's had 10 concussions. According to RVD during his divorce hearings he's had "hundreds" of concussions and is officially "disqualified from ever wrestling for WWE again". |
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Jul 23, 2019 16:05:33 GMT -5
USA randomly showing a replay of Raw Reunion. Any of y'all up for round 2 lol
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Post by K5 on Jul 23, 2019 16:32:45 GMT -5
And yet Kurt wrestled probably more matches in two years than Brock has since 2011. WWE doesn't care about health THAT much. According to Kurt Angle he's had 10 concussions. According to RVD during his divorce hearings he's had "hundreds" of concussions and is officially "disqualified from ever wrestling for WWE again". you’re referencing a divorce claim to avoid larger settlements from having further potential income. I wouldn’t take it too literally. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 23, 2019 16:39:23 GMT -5
According to Kurt Angle he's had 10 concussions. According to RVD during his divorce hearings he's had "hundreds" of concussions and is officially "disqualified from ever wrestling for WWE again". you’re referencing a divorce claim to avoid larger settlements from having further potential income. I wouldn’t take it too literally. I believe it. If RVD could be there, he would be. There's clearly mutual interest based on the fact the A) as a TNA wrestler he was even asked to be on RAW last night, and B) that he actually showed up. I believe RVD that if not for, as he states, his medical disqualification, he'd be at least a WWE part-timer. He doesn't even get the Rumble nostalgia appearances anymore. |
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Jul 23, 2019 18:56:52 GMT -5
Better wrap things up. They only got THREE MINUTES!  |
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Post by K5 on Jul 24, 2019 8:18:39 GMT -5
you’re referencing a divorce claim to avoid larger settlements from having further potential income. I wouldn’t take it too literally. I believe it. If RVD could be there, he would be. There's clearly mutual interest based on the fact the A) as a TNA wrestler he was even asked to be on RAW last night, and B) that he actually showed up. I believe RVD that if not for, as he states, his medical disqualification, he'd be at least a WWE part-timer. He doesn't even get the Rumble nostalgia appearances anymore. he despised his runs there. he’s still taking pretty serious bumps in impact wrestling. he literally doesn’t watch wrestling any more or have any interest in wwe’s schedule. he’ll make rumble appearances down the road. seriously, if you think RVD has suffered more head trauma than a Tommy Dreamer, then think again. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 13:36:02 GMT -5
It took me three nights to actually watch the whole thing, lol. I don't know, it just seemed so random and unnecessary. Austin was fun, the other stuff was just there.
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