Official New Logo...New Set...New Season Raw Thread: 9/30/19

I enjoyed raw, but I thought it was kind of too hectic

It went from Rey/Rollins to Brock destroying Rey, then Rollins/Orton which led to Rusev coming in for the save for some reason, then Rollins/Rusev which leads to Lashley and Lana making out and the fiend attacking Rollins.

Only 3 matches are announced for hell in a cell and the draft next week wasn’t even mentioned or advertised

Mysterio vs Rollins was a much better main event than what we were given. Kinda past it with these angles with Lana and rusev

The end of the show ruined it for me. The Lashley/Rusev/Lana was "Bad Russo Booking 101" Now, they can go full Russo if Lana mentions Lashley having a bigger soldier down below because he's a black guy...I really hope they don't. I DO imagine that there are some uncomfortable parties watching that last night as there are four people involved in this (Lashley, his wife, Rusev, Lana) and they can do edgy without doing trashy I would hope. But hey, Vince gonna Vince in the end.

From what I saw of the clips, I have mixed feelings, though much more skewed on the positive side, thanks to the sorely needed presentation changes.

However, the booking was just more of the same. Viking Raiders VS The Club, which I'm pretty sure we saw last week (if not, it was very recently). Ricochet VS Cesaro (which I distinctly remember from only a month or two ago). The same AOP backstage promo we've seen for like a month now. Sasha VS Alexa for the millionth time I can forgive because of the women's division being so small.

However, INTROS AND PYRO ARE BACK!! The new intro is pretty cool (even though I feel like they put way too much of the band in the intro. Felt kind of more like a music video than a wrestling intro). Hopefully they're not dumb enough to get rid of weekly intros and pyro again. Those two things are the bare minimum, in my opinion. The new commentary team felt really fresh, and a lot better than the old one. Lawler is still competent. Joseph is a solid commentator. And Maddin turned out pretty well. I've constantly seen the dude on social media doing various gaming things over the past year or so, so its nice to finally see/hear him on TV.

The Becky/Sasha confrontation was really entertaining. Lashley and Lana returning was an interesting and unexpected twist. Fiend attacking Rollins outside the ring instead of inside the ring made it feel unique.

Only disappointing match result really was Heavy Machinery not winning the tag titles. I really hope they win gold eventually; they're just too good to not be champions. However, I don't mind it so much if Viking Raiders are the next champions. They're really good too.

Russo: Bro, hold my beer...

It would have made way more sense for Rollins to run out during the Rey attack, but that gets into too much cross storytelling. You need Rollins for the Saudi bullsh*t and then he's out there again for the Rusev match. Plus, Brock vs Rollins is done and I don't want them leaning into that even a little.

My hope with the Lashley stuff is that they are using Lana's past to deceive both Lashley and the audience. So she'll do this charade with Lashley in order to help Rusev get the big win on PPV.

Flair is crazy. Vince has giant balls for letting him out there with a live mic at this point imo haha.

Liked the tag title match, AJ/Cedric, the opening segment, Ricochet doing the WCP, and the Rollins/Fiend build. Would have been nice to actually get Rey vs Rollins, though. I kind of like the hectic/chaotic feel to the show. I've said before, anything that breaks up the cadence of the show is good by me. Less formula, more free flowing.

Mixed feelings about the show. Liked Brock beating up the Mysterio family but no reprussions ? Nobody came down to save them ? OC getting buried once again, why put them back with AJ ? Liked the RAW tag title match. Ugh, Cesaro jobbing out, Nattie jobbing out. Matches we've seen before. Commentating too early to tell but they didn't annoy me and were kind of background nice which is good. Seth vs. Rusev, ok match but horrible storyline with Lana/Lashley. The Mike/Maria was stomach churning and now this ? If RAW does become more of the attitude era storylines, I'll record weekly. I watch wrestling with my teenage daughters sometimes and not the storylines I want them to follow. They know it is scripted but still scripted in poor taste.

RAW is just an outlet for Heyman to explore his fetishes.

This is how you kick off a big week of wrestling? What a way to turn people off. I thought WWE has been crap for years, but last night was awful. Sorry but if this was Heyman, they need to replace him asap. He should be better than that. Especially with how everyone kisses his ass and worship the guy.

The siren over the speakers? WTF!

Commentary even more awful than the bland 3. "Face Tattoos!" " hey remember Fat Bastard from 20 years ago?" Only good thing was Renee not screaming OH! every 10 seconds.

Flair has no business being on TV anymore. He's an embarrassment to himself, Charles, WWE, the live crowd, tv crowd, and to wrestling in general. I was getting drunk just by looking at his disgusting drunk ass.


What a complete crap show.