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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 15:42:25 GMT -5
I’m sure these arguments are brought up every time there is a draft.
To the first person who is going to respond, yes I know wrestling is scripted and I can just sit and enjoy the show.
NBA, NFL drafts are exciting. WWE wants to work that same kind of excitement into their programming. I get it. However it just doesn’t make sense competitively. It only works in a team dynamic such as a survivor series (even still it should make storyline sense not) not in a week in and week out show where the people the gm drafts just face off with Each other.
Hopefully this Raw vs SD brand loyalty shtick comes to an end and the wwe realizes there’s a shoot feud happening right before their eyes!
Overall these drafts have jumped the shark.
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Post by McBlake on Oct 10, 2019 15:51:09 GMT -5
Sorry, I don't understand the point you're trying to make?
If the draft brings an end to the asinine wild card rule and guys actually stick to their designated brand: I'd say it makes perfect sense.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 10, 2019 15:56:05 GMT -5
Honestly, they should include NXT in this draft. If Finn Balor can just show up in NXT and say, "I'm wrestling here now" then I think all 3 brands should be fair game for this draft.
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Post by LA Times on Oct 10, 2019 15:59:22 GMT -5
It makes more sense now, because USA and FOX both want as many big names exclusive to their show as they can get. Apparently, the selections are going to be done by network executives now. They are actually drafting the talent and not just shaking things up.
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Oct 10, 2019 16:30:27 GMT -5
Honestly, they should include NXT in this draft. If Finn Balor can just show up in NXT and say, "I'm wrestling here now" then I think all 3 brands should be fair game for this draft. I wouldn't even mind some main roster veterans heading there. Even a Randy Orton for a year would be unique, hopefully he'd be motivated though
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Post by JHTB® on Oct 10, 2019 16:32:46 GMT -5
Honestly, they should include NXT in this draft. If Finn Balor can just show up in NXT and say, "I'm wrestling here now" then I think all 3 brands should be fair game for this draft. I think NXT is included. The Fox WWE twitter account kinda mentioned it.
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Post by McBlake on Oct 10, 2019 17:11:03 GMT -5
I'd only be happy with NXT bring included if no one left. Its all well and good the likes of Cesaro and EC3 joining, but not if they lose say Cole, Baszler, Dream and Street Profits.
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Post by bababooey on Oct 10, 2019 17:32:09 GMT -5
The concept makes sense. The idea is to basically recreate the Monday Night War vibe. WWF guys wrestled each other, but were against WCW. So the idea is that RAW wants to be the better show than Smackdown and Smackdown wants to be a better show than RAW. Where it doesn’t make sense is that being the same company on a scripted show, showing one show as more dominant inherently would make you think the company sees one show as superior and the other inferior. Also, we all know that at any given time the whole split will just go out the window to improve ratings.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Oct 10, 2019 17:45:34 GMT -5
Having it even been confirmed that the Wild Card rule is ending? Surely they would continue to have the Womens tag and 24/7 title on both shows.
As far as the draft goes I just can't get excited about them anymore. They were great back in the day but now they don't feel unique. Basically everyone has been on both shows and neither of them stand out.
Take the 05 for an example when Cena got drafted to Raw it was surreal because he had never been seen in a Raw arena before.
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Post by wheeljack83 on Oct 11, 2019 1:44:31 GMT -5
The drafts and brands make no sense because WWE has no incentive to compete with itself. It's a publicly traded company. Look at how quickly the brand extension eroded. There are no brand only PPVs anymore. What is the point of separate rosters?
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Post by jking1979 on Oct 11, 2019 4:39:39 GMT -5
They need to have a show dedicated to the tough guys on my other thread. It would be more like a sport instead of a circus act.
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Post by k5 on Oct 11, 2019 7:52:12 GMT -5
they’ve been talking about developing two brands since they bought wcw, and bischoff had a similar idea for branding nwo and wcw as completely separate entities.
so maybe after twenty years of business insiders discussing it, they will actually succeed in developing two individual brands that may even compete to some degree with one another.
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Post by CM Poor on Oct 11, 2019 8:35:27 GMT -5
Having it even been confirmed that the Wild Card rule is ending? Surely they would continue to have the Womens tag and 24/7 title on both shows. Fox seems to think so:
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Post by ahunter8056 on Oct 11, 2019 10:14:25 GMT -5
I've never understood the viewpoint of people who dismiss the idea of two separate brands because WWE is one company. It's a scripted environment, the whole product is based on being a work of fiction. If you can get behind supernatural characters like the Fiend and the Undertaker, but two brands within the same company trying to compete with each other is too much to believe, then I really don't know what to tell you.
Personally I think brand splits are absolutely the way to go. They've simply got far too large a roster to share across both shows. Makes far more sense to have each show with their separate roster and championships. More opportunities, and makes each show unique.
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Post by alanpartridge on Oct 11, 2019 10:36:53 GMT -5
Honestly, they should include NXT in this draft. If Finn Balor can just show up in NXT and say, "I'm wrestling here now" then I think all 3 brands should be fair game for this draft. I wouldn't even mind some main roster veterans heading there. Even a Randy Orton for a year would be unique, hopefully he'd be motivated though When Randy Orton is motivated he steals the show.
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Post by CM Poor on Oct 11, 2019 10:52:56 GMT -5
I've never understood the viewpoint of people who dismiss the idea of two separate brands because WWE is one company. It's a scripted environment, the whole product is based on being a work of fiction. If you can get behind supernatural characters like the Fiend and the Undertaker, but two brands within the same company trying to compete with each other is too much to believe, then I really don't know what to tell you. Wrestling fans tend to be notoriously selective in regard to what they allow to rustle their collective jimmies.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Oct 11, 2019 11:11:57 GMT -5
Whatever can fix the cluster f--- of year 2019 was, I am all for it.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Oct 11, 2019 11:40:59 GMT -5
The split makes a lot more sense now than it has the past few years, seeing as how the shows are back on separate networks and more than a 24-hour between them. The WWE roster can support the elevation of talents into title contention. Not sure how I feel about them treating tv execs as wrestling experts though.
And the whole "Wild Card" rule stemmed from the networks emphasizing they want distinct rosters but similar star power. And with Vince's mentality of holding a very select few above the rest, his only solution was crossover talent which gratefully the REAL bosses have now crushed.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Oct 11, 2019 20:20:05 GMT -5
The draft ends the wildcard rule, which means there won’t be any complaints after next week. Unless the wildcard rule wasn’t really the problem, in which case the complaints will continue. By this time next week, we’ll know.
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Post by LK3 on Oct 12, 2019 3:44:54 GMT -5
We didn’t have the wild card rule yet when the Women’s Tag Titles were introduced, and the idea was that it would be defended across all shows. IMO that is how it should still be after this draft. They can be the only ones to be on both shows, or NXT, when necessary.
As for the 24/7 Title, I dunno. Just keep it on whatever brand Truth is drafted to. At PPV’s all talent will be there, so have shenanigans take place during the show and it gives an opportunity to have the title win by someone on the other show. Or more likely, Truth doesn’t get drafted and is a free agent showing up on both shows oblivious to the fact that he can pick what show he wants to be on.
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