buddyboy101
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Post by buddyboy101 on Oct 18, 2019 21:48:28 GMT -5
If you're like me, I didn't quite see the need for the Network Spotlight Diesel re-release. The color of his singlet aside, the difference really comes down to his face and whether TrueFX adds anything of value. When I saw the re-release online, I thought it looked almost identical to Nash's Elite 16 countenance, which isn't saying much. But when I stumbled on the figure in Target today, I had to pick it up since I would be avoiding scalper pricing online. Below are pics comparing the two figures. While the Network version is a bit different than the E16 version, I'm not sure if it's that much better. The printing does look a bit blurry in these photos, but it looks crisper in real life. Quality issues aside, I'm just not sure if the execution is any better. To me, these TrueFX re-releases are Mattel's very cheap way of filling its lines with little cost - the wrestlers are already under contract; the figures are essentially already made; no new scans; no new molds; just some different polish that leaves a turd just that. If you need the black singlet or you're a Diesel fanatic, I guess it's worth it, but for the rest of us it's just rehashing a figure that is now 7 years old! Other minor cosmetic differences: rivets on vest are ever so slightly different; his right hand is shaped a little more closed/smaller; glove holes are more defined; wrist portion of glove is very blurry compared to the clean lines of the original.
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Post by Gorilla on Oct 19, 2019 8:10:46 GMT -5
The new Diesel looks like Goldberg in a wig
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Post by PJ on Oct 19, 2019 8:23:54 GMT -5
Why did you have to pick it up to avoid “scalper/on-line” prices? Your first sentence says you didn’t see the need for it. So why did you feel the need to buy it? If I don’t see the need for something I’m not going to buy it. Anyway as for the figure itself I don’t think they have nailed his likeness as Diesel. They did a good job with the Nash versions of him, but not his Diesel figures.
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Oct 19, 2019 10:04:20 GMT -5
Nailed it!! The more I see the Diesel and Razor Ramon figures, the more I'm convinced they used the fake versions as a reference. How can they have perfect Kevin Nash and Scott Hall figures in their nWo gear, yet somehow mess up on Big Daddy Cool and the Bad Guy...unless it was intentional.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Oct 19, 2019 10:32:57 GMT -5
Message of this thread.....
I didn’t want this figure but they got my money anyway! Mattel makes dumb decisions.
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Post by buddyboy101 on Oct 19, 2019 11:38:59 GMT -5
Why did you have to pick it up to avoid “scalper/on-line” prices? Your first sentence says you didn’t see the need for it. So why did you feel the need to buy it? If I don’t see the need for something I’m not going to buy it. Anyway as for the figure itself I don’t think they have nailed his likeness as Diesel. They did a good job with the Nash versions of him, but not his Diesel figures. It doesn't seem worth $30-$40 on eBay, but worth $20 at Target. I buy like 5-10 figures per year. Also seeing the figure I was curious about in-person at the store adds some excitement after a long work day. I'm sure someone can relate.
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Post by tyco84 on Oct 19, 2019 11:55:59 GMT -5
I wish they would have added the same highlights of brown to his hair that they did to the mustache and goatee. That would have made the figure much more realistic looking.
But the elite 16 beard goatee looks drawn on with a finely tipped marker.
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Post by hbkowns on Oct 19, 2019 13:38:23 GMT -5
They’ve never got Kevin Nash/Diesel’s scan right.
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Post by Row on Oct 19, 2019 13:58:45 GMT -5
The RSC scan is the best by far, if only they would just use that scan and put different hair molds on it
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Post by cantu1984 on Oct 19, 2019 15:19:14 GMT -5
Nailed it!! The more I see the Diesel and Razor Ramon figures, the more I'm convinced they used the fake versions as a reference. How can they have perfect Kevin Nash and Scott Hall figures in their nWo gear, yet somehow mess up on Big Daddy Cool and the Bad Guy...unless it was intentional. I've always thought that E16 looked more like Kane than Nash.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Oct 19, 2019 17:12:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the comparison. I'll stick with E16, but I do like how the beard looks on the new one. I'd love to see this particular version next:
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Oct 19, 2019 20:39:54 GMT -5
I had the chance to pick up Diesel today, but passed. I agree with the consensus; if you already have E16 Diesel, the Network exclusive will not easily persuade (even with TrueFX).
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Post by Sean on Oct 19, 2019 21:05:58 GMT -5
The new Diesel looks like Goldberg in a wig Now that you’ve pointed it out I can’t unsee it
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Post by dgnr8 on Oct 19, 2019 22:44:07 GMT -5
I never could find the E16 Diesel at retail, so for someone like me this figure is an opportunity to fill a gap for a figure I really want. I personally like this Diesel. The all black looks sharp and the TrueFX does look nicer than the dark face detail of the E16 figure. Here's hoping I'll run across this one!
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Oct 19, 2019 23:14:24 GMT -5
The RSC scan is the best by far, if only they would just use that scan and put different hair molds on it e16 Nash is the best the rsc one is awful
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Post by TheChamp420 on Oct 20, 2019 8:51:33 GMT -5
I like E16 better.
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Post by Decky on Oct 20, 2019 11:40:34 GMT -5
Why did you have to pick it up to avoid “scalper/on-line” prices? Your first sentence says you didn’t see the need for it. So why did you feel the need to buy it? If I don’t see the need for something I’m not going to buy it. Anyway as for the figure itself I don’t think they have nailed his likeness as Diesel. They did a good job with the Nash versions of him, but not his Diesel figures. It doesn't seem worth $30-$40 on eBay, but worth $20 at Target. I buy like 5-10 figures per year. Also seeing the figure I was curious about in-person at the store adds some excitement after a long work day. I'm sure someone can relate. i KINDA get your point. Its the thrill of the purchase. I don't particularly want Basic Series 100 but If i see them in hand in a shop theres no way Im turning down Rock and Austin.
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Post by MWFD on Oct 20, 2019 12:25:50 GMT -5
Everyone saying they've yet to nail a Diesel face scan, I disagree completely. The HOF version is incredible. It's just that this was his look for only a few months in 1993 and really before he began wearing the attire he's packaged in. By mid-94. the mullet was growing out and so his face doesn't match the HOF figure. Still though, HOF face scan is ON POINT.
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Post by ellisd on Oct 20, 2019 16:18:09 GMT -5
Everyone saying they've yet to nail a Diesel face scan, I disagree completely. The HOF version is incredible. It's just that this was his look for only a few months in 1993 and really before he began wearing the attire he's packaged in. By mid-94. the mullet was growing out and so his face doesn't match the HOF figure. Still though, HOF face scan is ON POINT. I agree, and it works pretty good if you add the hair from the Battle Pack/Elite 16.
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Post by PJ on Oct 20, 2019 16:40:59 GMT -5
Everyone saying they've yet to nail a Diesel face scan, I disagree completely. The HOF version is incredible. It's just that this was his look for only a few months in 1993 and really before he began wearing the attire he's packaged in. By mid-94. the mullet was growing out and so his face doesn't match the HOF figure. Still though, HOF face scan is ON POINT. The HOF is by far his best Diesel head, but there’s still something about the face that is off. It’s still 100x better than the e16/Network Spotlight figures.
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