havoc7179
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Post by havoc7179 on Oct 23, 2019 11:41:52 GMT -5
How are people feeling about how their favorite talents are being used for Crown Jewel?
I'm glad that AJ didn't get placed in that fan service match between Team Hogan and Team Flair. It's obvious Team Hogan is winning. Why saddle him with a loss in a meaningless match that is just used to get blood money? I wish Ali and Ricochet weren't in that match. They are (It honestly looks like that Team Raw vs. Team Smackdown SS match from 2017 where are the "legends" will go over the younger talent in embarassing fashion. Joe losing to Cena thanks to ONE AA. Braun "I can't win a Singles Belt" Strowman pinning Nakamura and Roode.) Shorty G, Ali, and Richochet wil be the first eliminated so that the Ultimate Underdog Roman Reigns can defeat Orton, Shinsuke, Lashley, and McIntyre. I have this disturbing belief that somehow King Corbin could come out on top if it was booked in any other country, but for a country that loves the Real American Hulk Hogan, I can't see that happening (Although I can see Hogan hitting one more Atomic Leg Drop to send them home happy).
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Oct 23, 2019 11:55:46 GMT -5
It saddens me that any of them are being used at all.
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 23, 2019 12:15:02 GMT -5
I could see that scenario the OP mentioned happening with Reigns. We know Vince missed out of booking Reigns to go over 3 people at the 2014 survivor series (due to injury), so he’s gotta make up for that so Roman looks really, really strong.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Oct 23, 2019 14:31:53 GMT -5
I am also appalled that they have put some wrestlers in a tag team match. This is the final straw! #cancelwwenetwork
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Post by k5 on Oct 23, 2019 14:50:30 GMT -5
I don’t really overthink the crown jewel shows, and I am admittedly a mark for things like Goldberg returning etc. so I don’t let things like AJ’s card placement bother me.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Oct 23, 2019 15:17:23 GMT -5
They shouldn't be there at all.
But morals arent really what WWE does and thats why Billionaire Vince doesnt care what us peasants think.
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Post by JP on Oct 23, 2019 15:42:48 GMT -5
Who cares? The Saudi shows are glorified house shows. They don't matter.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Oct 23, 2019 16:38:02 GMT -5
Who cares? The Saudi shows are glorified house shows. They don't matter. Couldn't have said it any simpler. Every time an event is announced people get worked up. The guys have the option to refuse to work it, like cena and Bryan have opted out in the past. major props to Ali though for donating his earnings from the event to charity. |
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Post by marino13 on Oct 23, 2019 21:51:19 GMT -5
Yeah... something something blood money, WWE evil. Boo hiss.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Oct 24, 2019 3:56:55 GMT -5
Luke Harper, Aleister Black & Buddy Murphy aren't on the card, so my care factor is below zero.
I suppose it's a good thing they aren't booked on it though.
The only good thing to come out of these shows is Ali reminding us that he is such a wholesome person.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Oct 24, 2019 5:36:05 GMT -5
The show as a whole is disgusting.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Oct 24, 2019 6:19:21 GMT -5
Luke Harper, Aleister Black & Buddy Murphy aren't on the card, so my care factor is below zero. I suppose it's a good thing they aren't booked on it though. The only good thing to come out of these shows is Ali reminding us that he is such a wholesome person. Murphy will probably be in the battle royal, no? |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Oct 24, 2019 8:50:48 GMT -5
Who cares? The Saudi shows are glorified house shows. They don't matter. /thread |
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 24, 2019 9:58:24 GMT -5
WWE has been going to Saudi Arabia for like 25 years, and nobody every bitched or complained. They're just getting paid big bucks now so everyone wants to complain.
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havoc7179
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Post by havoc7179 on Oct 24, 2019 10:28:30 GMT -5
I think it's ridiculous people compare it to a house show. How many house shows have you been to where they literally run angles on Raw and Smackdown to create feuds for it?
Find it abhorrent. Find it in bad taste. But it's happening. Its "Canon" and it actually has an impact on stories. We got a whole story of Shane McMahon being the best in the world out of it.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Oct 24, 2019 10:51:33 GMT -5
I think it's ridiculous people compare it to a house show. How many house shows have you been to where they literally run angles on Raw and Smackdown to create feuds for it? Find it abhorrent. Find it in bad taste. But it's happening. Its "Canon" and it actually has an impact on stories. We got a whole story of Shane McMahon being the best in the world out of it. Plus WWE brings out the big names for them that they wouldn't bother calling up for a house show. HBK's one night return, Taker, Goldberg, Hogan's first major reappearance to WWE programming. They have ran "house show" event specials in recent years: Elimination Chamber, Beast in the East, Roadblock, etc. The biggest attraction any of them had before Lesnar, who was reigning champion at the time. While they were also canon, they were merely built up to a B or C grade PPV, and none were ever released on DVD. WWE has been going to Saudi Arabia for like 25 years, and nobody every bitched or complained. They're just getting paid big bucks now so everyone wants to complain. WWE was never paid the big bucks before to act as such a public face to generate good PR and international goodwill while an oppressive, autocratic dip consolidates power in his country with an iron fist and an obedient army at his disposal. MBS is obsessed with that sort of thing, ask the owners of the National Enquirer. I could expound further, but I hesitate to bring up subjects of a political nature. |
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Post by k5 on Oct 24, 2019 15:25:29 GMT -5
i mean, if you’re not offended by it enough to just not watch any wwe programming anymore - but instead repeatedly make comments about it on a pro wrestling figure forum, it seems you’re not exactly a part of the solution.
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Post by TX on Oct 24, 2019 15:42:18 GMT -5
WWE has been going to Saudi Arabia for like 25 years, and nobody every bitched or complained. They're just getting paid big bucks now so everyone wants to complain. What? When? The earliest instance of WWE in Saudi Arabia that I can find is a house show in 2014 which was literally mentioned as their first ever event to take place in Saudi Arabia... |
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Oct 24, 2019 16:27:21 GMT -5
i mean, if you’re not offended by it enough to just not watch any wwe programming anymore - but instead repeatedly make comments about it on a pro wrestling figure forum, it seems you’re not exactly a part of the solution. The "love it or leave it" mentality is wholly ineffective and such a backhanded, flimsy answer. One would be abandoning the elements that they actually do appreciate. And as trivial and marginalized those who are voicing opposition are portrayed, leaving WWE behind will not affect any change some desire to see. The only result is a higher percentage of viewers complicit with the company's direction and an ever encompassing bubble to defend it and the supporters against any dissenting thoughts. |
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Post by k5 on Oct 24, 2019 18:29:24 GMT -5
i mean, if you’re not offended by it enough to just not watch any wwe programming anymore - but instead repeatedly make comments about it on a pro wrestling figure forum, it seems you’re not exactly a part of the solution. The "love it or leave it" mentality is wholly ineffective and such a backhanded, flimsy answer. One would be abandoning the elements that they actually do appreciate. And as trivial and marginalized those who are voicing opposition are portrayed, leaving WWE behind will not affect any change some desire to see. The only result is a higher percentage of viewers complicit with the company's direction and an ever encompassing bubble to defend it and the supporters against any dissenting thoughts. i consider posturing repeatedly on a wrestling figure forum about political standings as the truly "flimsy" pursuit. if large amounts of people truly felt strongly enough opposed to it and abandoned the product, it would most definitely affect the wwe's consideration of future events there. let's say america is wrestling, and the wwe's events in saudi arabia are the vietnam war. where do you currently fall? definitely not an outright protester. you're a defender of the very current government enacting the war. but don't throw the baby out with the bath water, right? anyways, i'll let you have a final say and let's move on as i didn't mean to derail the thread as i'm sure you didn't either. |
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