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Post by Joey Cush on Oct 29, 2019 11:37:54 GMT -5
Jeez, everything is racist and offensive now. Or it always has been and people are just now getting the power to speak about it. Here we go
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Post by ChainGang on Oct 29, 2019 11:41:15 GMT -5
Or it always has been and people are just now getting the power to speak about it. Here we go Get ur popcorn ready my guy. 🍿
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havoc7179
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Post by havoc7179 on Oct 29, 2019 11:47:01 GMT -5
I can see the racism in the shirt. It's definitely got a blackface vibe to it. So, whether Jordan Myles approved it or not, it should never have made it to mock ups.
That said, social media's current spin on this is FREAKING RIDICULOUS. I've seen countless tweet after tweet saying how Becky Lynch's new shirt about not caring about your feelings is in poor taste because of the timing of the release. The thesis being that WWE is taking shots at Jordan by saying they don't care about his feelings, so it doesn't matter if he felt it was racist.
I just want to say that those who think Becky's shirt was in poor taste because of the timing, and saying that it's attacking Myles for being offended, you DO NOT UNDERSTAND RACISM.
I won't get into the whole debate, but think of it like this. People who think it was in poor taste are saying it's only racist if it is offensive or hurts someone's feelings. Racism is racism. It doesn't matter if you're offended or if I'm offended. If something is racist, it doesn't matter who is offended by it or if no one is offended by it.
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Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Oct 29, 2019 12:02:08 GMT -5
Jeez, everything is racist and offensive now. Or it always has been and people are just now getting the power to speak about it. He had the power a month ago, why is he just saying stuff now?
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hbkowns
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Post by hbkowns on Oct 29, 2019 12:03:15 GMT -5
I don’t like having these conversations here because people are ignorant and don’t get why people of color get upset at things like this and try to spin it as “everything is racist.”
I understand why ACH is upset but he went wayyyy too far in his approach of handling this. I get that the shirt is totally insensitive and whoever came up with that design totally knew what they were up to because there’s no way you can mistakenly do that. But you shouldn’t fight fire with fire in this situation. Not only did the guy piss off his current employer but his previous one as well.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Oct 29, 2019 12:07:41 GMT -5
Jordan is up to about 11 minutes......
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Post by slappy on Oct 29, 2019 12:22:52 GMT -5
Or it always has been and people are just now getting the power to speak about it. He had the power a month ago, why is he just saying stuff now? I don't know. Ask him.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Oct 29, 2019 12:37:34 GMT -5
Jeez, everything is racist and offensive now. Or it always has been and people are just now getting the power to speak about it. There is truth to this. With the dawn of social media people are now able to speak out about things with a safe level of anonymity. Shedding light on terrible things some people do can bring education to the masses so everyone can have an understanding of what’s right and wrong. Unfortunately, there are some that take advantage of this platform and exaggerate situations (or down right lie about them) to further their own beliefs and create more division. Where does this case fall in? I don’t know. I guess time will tell.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 29, 2019 13:45:42 GMT -5
Whatever the case may be....this seems like an issue that should have been handled internally. Going ballistic on Twitter seems to be unnecessary.
Also, I think the most hilarious thing about this is that people within WWE actually call him "Triple H" on internal e-mails. lol
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Post by rowdy1971 on Oct 29, 2019 14:31:55 GMT -5
wow. Jordan just posted this. He sure is THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but not for spelling or making much sense.
Jordan Myles posted the following statement on his Instagram: gogo_myles “My tweets yesterday were completely disrespectful and were unprofessional. I have offend a ton of people and used anger to fuel me. With that being said.. I’d like to take this time to state an apologize for not giving a crap about what others think of me. The anger I have inside of me has been built up for years now. Call me what you want, but you’ll never EVER be able to call me fake. I’ve been lied too, used, and often mistreated by others who I viewed as associates. I’ve tipped toe around, kept quiet, even took some Ls when necessary. Emotionally charged up due to the shirt which triggered past emotions. I’m never going to be sorry for being me nor will I take back my words. I’m the damn professional wrestler in the WORLD & universe today. My ribs are touching and I’m tired of waiting. Time to snatch plates from those that have been eating far too long and always gets seconds while guys like myself have to eat crumbs from the floor like an unwanted child. For 4 years .. I gave my all to a promotion only to find out that you could only reach so high just as long as you didn’t surpass certain “people”.. I never begged for anything, I never kissed no ass, nor did rub elbows with the right ppl to get ahead. I HUSTTLED, WORKED HARD. I didn’t call Hunter everyday to get booked in New Japan (s/o to NJPW) I earned it. I’ve always wanted to be “The Guy” and of no one will allow me to be in that spot.. I shall blaze my own trail to that spot rather it be by the approval of others or not. Today i shall continue to go the distance. Today I shall Lee moving forward. Today I shall rise up from my past ashes like a Dark Phoenix and promote change in this industry. Remember these words I AM THE BEST IN THE WORLD! AND NO MAN OR WOMAN WILL STOP ME FROM BEING HONEST. GO THE DISTANCE…” #MylesAhead #ForTheCulture
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Post by k5 on Oct 29, 2019 15:16:04 GMT -5
wow. Jordan just posted this. He sure is THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but not for spelling or making much sense. Jordan Myles posted the following statement on his Instagram: gogo_myles “My tweets yesterday were completely disrespectful and were unprofessional. I have offend a ton of people and used anger to fuel me. With that being said.. I’d like to take this time to state an apologize for not giving a crap about what others think of me. The anger I have inside of me has been built up for years now. Call me what you want, but you’ll never EVER be able to call me fake. I’ve been lied too, used, and often mistreated by others who I viewed as associates. I’ve tipped toe around, kept quiet, even took some Ls when necessary. Emotionally charged up due to the shirt which triggered past emotions. I’m never going to be sorry for being me nor will I take back my words. I’m the damn professional wrestler in the WORLD & universe today. My ribs are touching and I’m tired of waiting. Time to snatch plates from those that have been eating far too long and always gets seconds while guys like myself have to eat crumbs from the floor like an unwanted child. For 4 years .. I gave my all to a promotion only to find out that you could only reach so high just as long as you didn’t surpass certain “people”.. I never begged for anything, I never kissed no ass, nor did rub elbows with the right ppl to get ahead. I HUSTTLED, WORKED HARD. I didn’t call Hunter everyday to get booked in New Japan (s/o to NJPW) I earned it. I’ve always wanted to be “The Guy” and of no one will allow me to be in that spot.. I shall blaze my own trail to that spot rather it be by the approval of others or not. Today i shall continue to go the distance. Today I shall Lee moving forward. Today I shall rise up from my past ashes like a Dark Phoenix and promote change in this industry. Remember these words I AM THE BEST IN THE WORLD! AND NO MAN OR WOMAN WILL STOP ME FROM BEING HONEST. GO THE DISTANCE…” #MylesAhead #ForTheCulture this is why twitter was a bad bad idea
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Post by marino13 on Oct 29, 2019 15:52:42 GMT -5
I've already received complaints about this thread. I knew there was no way people would be mature about this. Please just keep it civil. I don’t like having these conversations here because people are ignorant and don’t get why people of color get upset at things like this and try to spin it as “everything is racist.” I understand why ACH is upset but he went wayyyy too far in his approach of handling this. I get that the shirt is totally insensitive and whoever came up with that design totally knew what they were up to because there’s no way you can mistakenly do that. But you shouldn’t fight fire with fire in this situation. Not only did the guy piss off his current employer but his previous one as well. I disagree. Jordan's gimmick (for now) was his smile. They tried to incorporate that into a design. Simple as that really. Like Booker T said, there's no way in this day and age, a publicly traded company would purposely do that to someone...
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 29, 2019 16:03:42 GMT -5
What I don't get is that he was cool with the shirt getting made when the shirt was grey, but of course the WWE was gonna do a black shirt. I think 99% of their merchandise is on black shirts.
Honestly, when I saw the shirt, I didn't think black face, I didn't think Rolling Stones, I didn't think anything. It didn't even look like lips to me.
Is this the former ACH wrestler?? He seemed so happy go lucky in ROH and MLW. What happened to him?? I understand if he is angry, but a lot of his rants were very bizarre and out there. I love people who have passion, but his passion seemed all over the place and a bit extreme.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Oct 29, 2019 17:17:56 GMT -5
All of you saying "he's ruined his career" are ing stupid. Pedophiles, racists and known neo-Nazis still get employed in this business. Being angry over a t-shirt that wound up looking like blackface after he approved a completely different shirt isn't ruining his career.
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Post by Gorilla on Oct 29, 2019 19:12:50 GMT -5
This guy is 5'9"... this is his five minutes of fame, going off on Twitter. No midget wrestler will ever be a superstar.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Oct 29, 2019 19:40:54 GMT -5
This guy is 5'9"... this is his five minutes of fame, going off on Twitter. No midget wrestler will ever be a superstar. Rey Mysterio
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Post by MacReady on Oct 29, 2019 19:49:23 GMT -5
All of you saying "he's ruined his career" are ing stupid. Pedophiles, racists and known neo-Nazis still get employed in this business. Being angry over a t-shirt that wound up looking like blackface after he approved a completely different shirt isn't ruining his career. I mean, a guy who’s ALL of those things writhed his way to the highest office in the United States... So, I think this guy will be fine.
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Post by theicwguy on Oct 29, 2019 19:50:37 GMT -5
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Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Oct 29, 2019 19:55:00 GMT -5
All of you saying "he's ruined his career" are ing stupid. Pedophiles, racists and known neo-Nazis still get employed in this business. Being angry over a t-shirt that wound up looking like blackface after he approved a completely different shirt isn't ruining his career. Got some examples?
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Oct 29, 2019 20:12:18 GMT -5
I'm staying out of this one fam lol
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