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Post by FLUX '97 on Oct 29, 2019 20:21:37 GMT -5
All of you saying "he's ruined his career" are ing stupid. Pedophiles, racists and known neo-Nazis still get employed in this business. Being angry over a t-shirt that wound up looking like blackface after he approved a completely different shirt isn't ruining his career. Got some examples? Chasyn Rance, James Ellsworth, Jerry Lawler (allegedly): Pedophiles Hulk Hogan, Michael "P.S." Hayes: Racists SHLAK, Harris Brothers (long retired, but still): Neo-Nazis.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Oct 29, 2019 20:30:17 GMT -5
This guy is 5'9"... this is his five minutes of fame, going off on Twitter. No midget wrestler will ever be a superstar. Yeah, because guys like Bret, Flair, Shawn, Styles, Bryan, Punk, Angle, Eddie Guerrero, and Chris Jericho who are all within four inches of 5'9" aren't superstars or legends at all. Just a bunch of midgets.
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Post by Retrospect on Oct 29, 2019 21:42:40 GMT -5
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 29, 2019 21:50:19 GMT -5
LOL the Harris Brothers arent Neo-Nazis. The SS logo (as well as the iron cross) were both used by the Nazis but also used commonly by bikers & in the music industry (metal mostly) The Harris's have said the tattoos were because of their biker ties and they were covered after being accused multiple times of being racists. Those guys literally worked for every major wrestling company in the WORLD. You dont get that kind of work being a Nazi. One even has an adopted Asian daughter and has bi racial family members.
Another example of the wonderful era we're in where we look at something and instead of doing research we just get offended yell "RACIST"
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Oct 29, 2019 23:16:29 GMT -5
Chasyn Rance, James Ellsworth, Jerry Lawler (allegedly): Pedophiles Hulk Hogan, Michael "P.S." Hayes: Racists SHLAK, Harris Brothers (long retired, but still): Neo-Nazis. Chasyn Rance and James Ellworth are nobodies. Lawler is a creep, but that doesnt make him a pedo. Hogan apologized for his comments years ago, and people can change over time. It's a wild concept, I know. I will admit, you cant defend Hayes here. I dont know who or what SHLAK is, so I'm going to assume he fits into the Ellsworth category. A nobody. And the Harris Brothers have been retired for nearly 15 years now. And again, in the grand scheme of things, they were nobodies also. Like another person said, they aren't even neo nazis. Ludwig Borga got released partly because he was a neo nazi back 25 years ago. He couldnt find work in wrestling for years after, and eventually got his ass handed to him in MMA. So your examples, other than PS, dont make any sense for this argument, because none of them besides Hogan (who apologized for what he said in a private conversation), Hayes, and Lawler even matter in the grand scheme of things. You dont even have proof of any of the claims you made besides Hogan, so maybe we shouldn't be making claims on stuff we dont have proof of.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Oct 29, 2019 23:35:06 GMT -5
This guy is 5'9"... this is his five minutes of fame, going off on Twitter. No midget wrestler will ever be a superstar.Just going to ignore that the majority of top guys or 'Superstars' over the past 15 years have been around that height? Daniel Bryan, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, AJ Styles, Finn Balor & Chris Jericho among others... Guess they're just midgets who were never stars... Guys like Adam Cole, Aleister Black, Andrade, Tommaso Ciampa, Kevin Owens, johnny Gargano etc... Guys who will be carrying WWE over the next 15 years will never be stars because they're around that height. Dumbest comment i've read today...
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Post by bababooey on Oct 30, 2019 8:41:04 GMT -5
My whole thing is when I saw the shirt I didn’t even realize that was supposed to be a mouth. Until someone pointed out why it’s “racist” I hadn’t even made the connection to blackface. I thought it was a basic, generic shirt with little effort put into it so a guy could get some merch money.
I can see a situation where he approved it on grey and when he saw it on black was like “Whoa! This doesn’t look right.” Then he could have pointed it out to WWE internally and asked them to not sell the shirt in black. But no, everyone today has to go cry on Twitter about everything and try to make themselves a martyr.
To be honest, this whole situation makes him come off like more of a racist than WWE in my eyes. He seems like he’s going around looking for problems, and he’s got way too high an opinion of himself... and he can’t spell.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Oct 30, 2019 12:29:48 GMT -5
This guy is 5'9"... this is his five minutes of fame, going off on Twitter. No midget wrestler will ever be a superstar. Sounds like someone is short-a-phobic.
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Post by Retrospect on Oct 30, 2019 13:02:19 GMT -5
This guy is 5'9"... this is his five minutes of fame, going off on Twitter. No midget wrestler will ever be a superstar. Sounds like someone is short-a-phobic.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Oct 30, 2019 13:31:38 GMT -5
Maybe I’ve been under a rock... But how is that shirt racist?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 15:08:42 GMT -5
Maybe I’ve been under a rock... But how is that shirt racist? Google blackface and you should see the resemblance. Man this thing went off the rails in a hurry... I'm just gonna share one of the tweets Myles didn't delete, and maybe the most important tweet of the bunch. "I’m not surprised by your comment. And you are absolutely right, my brother. I dont know how it is to be Caucasian in America so I dont speak on it. But I know how it is to be an African American in America so I speak on that." It's never the job of the group in power to determine what the oppressed groups find racist. We don't get to make that determination.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 30, 2019 15:34:34 GMT -5
Maybe I’ve been under a rock... But how is that shirt racist? Google blackface and you should see the resemblance. Man this thing went off the rails in a hurry... I'm just gonna share one of the tweets Myles didn't delete, and maybe the most important tweet of the bunch. "I’m not surprised by your comment. And you are absolutely right, my brother. I dont know how it is to be Caucasian in America so I dont speak on it. But I know how it is to be an African American in America so I speak on that." It's never the job of the group in power to determine what the oppressed groups find racist. We don't get to make that determination. The irony of his post is those that tend to always use the race card are those that act like another race is getting some sort of privilege. Social media is a cancer. Most people regardless of color just live their lives day to day drama free. It's the small % that gets on social media outlets and get their voices louder even though they're in the minority.
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Post by TheLastDude on Oct 30, 2019 15:45:14 GMT -5
Chasyn Rance, James Ellsworth, Jerry Lawler (allegedly): Pedophiles Hulk Hogan, Michael "P.S." Hayes: Racists SHLAK, Harris Brothers (long retired, but still): Neo-Nazis. Even you put "allegedly" and "long retired" here. Come on now. Were Ellsworth and Lawler ever proven beyond accusation? Hogan making a racist statement doesn't make him a racist. If that were the case, almost everyone is a racist then. I'm not talking about the N-word here either. Have you ever said "I got gypped?" Congrats. That's racist. Slippery slopes on this mountain. The Harris' have already been covered here. Not true. So, Chaysyn Rance and SHLAK, both of whom most people have never heard of are it. I know I'm convinced that the wrestling business is a teeming cesspool now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 16:08:46 GMT -5
Google blackface and you should see the resemblance. Man this thing went off the rails in a hurry... I'm just gonna share one of the tweets Myles didn't delete, and maybe the most important tweet of the bunch. "I’m not surprised by your comment. And you are absolutely right, my brother. I dont know how it is to be Caucasian in America so I dont speak on it. But I know how it is to be an African American in America so I speak on that." It's never the job of the group in power to determine what the oppressed groups find racist. We don't get to make that determination. The irony of his post is those that tend to always use the race card are those that act like another race is getting some sort of privilege. Social media is a cancer. Most people regardless of color just live their lives day to day drama free. It's the small % that gets on social media outlets and get their voices louder even though they're in the minority. Maybe that's the case where you live, but definitely not where I live. I've spent enough time working in schools with almost exclusively immigrant and minority populations, and interacted enough with their parents to know that's not the case here. Whether it's the young muslim girls who have to worry about someone trying to pull of their hijab or call them terrorists, or the indigenous men who can't walk through a store without being followed by the security guard, the inability to get a job I could get because their name sounds funny and they have an accent; all things I don't have to worry about. They may not take to social media all the time, but their lives are most certainly not drama free. I'm also not ignorant to the privilege I have because I'm a straight white dude. It doesn't mean I don't deserve the opportunities I have, or haven't worked hard to get where I am, I'm just not blind to the fact that I had a heck of a lot easier time getting there.
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Post by marino13 on Oct 30, 2019 16:17:15 GMT -5
One (of several) things I don't understand is, of all the African American talent currently in WWE, why did he think WWE was trying to attack him? He's only been there a short time and so far he's been booked really well. Not sure why he thinks they would purposefully risk this kind of backlash on him.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Oct 30, 2019 16:27:49 GMT -5
Chasyn Rance, James Ellsworth, Jerry Lawler (allegedly): Pedophiles Hulk Hogan, Michael "P.S." Hayes: Racists SHLAK, Harris Brothers (long retired, but still): Neo-Nazis. Even you put "allegedly" and "long retired" here. Come on now. Were Ellsworth and Lawler ever proven beyond accusation? Hogan making a racist statement doesn't make him a racist. If that were the case, almost everyone is a racist then. I'm not talking about the N-word here either. Have you ever said "I got gypped?" Congrats. That's racist. Slippery slopes on this mountain. The Harris' have already been covered here. Not true. So, Chaysyn Rance and SHLAK, both of whom most people have never heard of are it. I know I'm convinced that the wrestling business is a teeming cesspool now. I don't think I've ever said “I mean, I’d rather if she was going to some n-word, I’d rather have her marry an 8-foot-tall n-word worth a hundred million dollars! Like a basketball player!". Maybe you have, but I sure haven't.
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Post by k5 on Oct 30, 2019 17:16:02 GMT -5
This guy is 5'9"... this is his five minutes of fame, going off on Twitter. No midget wrestler will ever be a superstar. Rey Mysterio at this point gorilla is essentially a troll account. unless he's posting in classics board. lol
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Oct 30, 2019 19:28:18 GMT -5
at this point gorilla is essentially a troll account. unless he's posting in classics board. lol Sounds like a typical 'classics' troll. S**ts on everything past 2000, hates 'midgets', loves 6'6 270 giants, gets defensive when someone criticises pre 2000 wrestling, complains when 1 Flashback isn't in a set etc...
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Post by jking1979 on Oct 31, 2019 4:55:53 GMT -5
Jordan who???
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Oct 31, 2019 7:46:00 GMT -5
It's a crapty shirt but I dont see the problem.
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