Quazimoto
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Joined on: Feb 4, 2014 12:37:37 GMT -5
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Post by Quazimoto on Nov 11, 2019 23:37:54 GMT -5
I've never really compared pro wrestling to other sports. Even as a kid, I was always "in" on the reality of wrestling and never thought of it as a sport. Always looked at it more as a performance art done buy highly skilled and incredibly athletic actors. While it's on, you suspend your disbelief and get immersed in it just like you would with any tv show or movie.
I think most of the bigger companies like WWE, ARE, NJPW, Impact, and ROH like to almost portray themselves as sports and along side legit sports simply to gain mainstream acceptance. We relative few who frequent wrestling related sites and forums are abnormal in that we're going to follow and/or watch wrestling regardless. Unfortunately, wrestling companies can't grow, expand, and maintain revenue based solely on the die-hard fans, so they need to appeal to the casual audiences as well and few things in our world get consistently good tv ratings and followings like sports. So, having wrestlers appear alongside "real" athletes is just a way for them to get their face, name, and brand out there in hopes of grabbing some of those casual fans who might not otherwise tune in.
Pro Wrestling is unlike anything else in the entertainment world. At it's best, it's part sport, part stage play, part soap opera, part tv show, and part movie all rolled into one. Personally, I've always wished pro wrestling would stop trying so hard to present themselves as a sport and fully embrace it's uniqueness.
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Post by CM Poor on Nov 12, 2019 11:03:24 GMT -5
None of the examples you cited are an instance of professional wrestling being postured in equal measure to another like entity. They're all examples of corporate cross promotion. The common thread in each is a parent company that obviously wants to get the maximum amount of return on each of its products. The opposite of each of these scenarios would be 2K, Fox, and TNT doing a deliberate disservice to products that they've invested stupid amounts of in, and for what? To generate artificial competition between two of their own brands? That would be tantamount to Coca Cola Co. disregarding Sprite because of a pre-established national preference for its flagship product.
TL;DR - of course 2K, Fox, and TNT want as many eyes on WWE2K, Smackdown, and AEW. Why in god's name wouldn't they?
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Post by vampiroporvida on Nov 12, 2019 12:14:05 GMT -5
Given damage to bodies that incurs in wrestling and other sports, and legit pain that happens, it is equal or even more deadly than other sports, but since it is predetermined, at least in america, it won't be considered equal ever.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Nov 12, 2019 12:30:39 GMT -5
We don’t know how much time is spent on creating a character model for LeBron James in a game and how much is spent creating an NXT no-name in a game though. From looking at any of the WWE games, it’s clear that the art quality varies massively across the roster. I would expect that the bigger names are the priority, and the more obscure guys get added in according to available resources/time.
WWE doesn’t draw the money that major sports do, but it also doesn’t have an off-season, so it’s valuable to a network in a unique way.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Nov 12, 2019 13:32:34 GMT -5
To be fair, they spend a lot of time on nba players who nobody knows who the they are because they never play
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Post by k5 on Nov 12, 2019 13:45:05 GMT -5
how on earth do you know if a NXT character gets as much time as Lebron James, and how does common sense not make you realize that he DEFINITELY does get more development time as NBA 2K DEFINITELY makes way more money than WWE games. hence the massive quality difference in games.
they aren’t equal at all. not even on illusionary terms.
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Post by CM Poor on Nov 12, 2019 14:55:47 GMT -5
I'd also be willing to bet a Coke that the same teams aren't developing both the WWE and the NBA games. Come on...the same teams don't even develop Elites and Basics.
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Post by CM Poor on Nov 12, 2019 15:30:27 GMT -5
None of the examples you cited are an instance of professional wrestling being postured in equal measure to another like entity. They're all examples of corporate cross promotion. The common thread in each is a parent company that obviously wants to get the maximum amount of return on each of its products. The opposite of each of these scenarios would be 2K, Fox, and TNT doing a deliberate disservice to products that they've invested stupid amounts of in, and for what? To generate artificial competition between two of their own brands? That would be tantamount to Coca Cola Co. disregarding Sprite because of a pre-established national preference for its flagship product. TL;DR - of course 2K, Fox, and TNT want as many eyes on WWE2K, Smackdown, and AEW. Why in god's name wouldn't they? Eh, ya never know. I'm sure that a lot of the marketing people involved in these different realms are at least trained to say that in all of these worlds, pro wrestling and pro sports are "equals." DERF That's exactly what I said. Nobody with any sort of money making, business acumen at 2K, Fox, or TNT is sitting down to a marketing meeting going "Geez, we're really pushing this whole wrestling thing, huh? I mean...wrestling? Really?". Good, bad, or indifferent, this is their product, and it didn't come cheap. You either chase that ROI, or you chalk up the loss at the end of the fiscal, and nobody wants to do the latter.
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