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Post by Jack Specific on Nov 15, 2019 13:28:10 GMT -5
Toys that Made Us Season 3 is up on Netflix! You don’t want to miss the new Wrestling Figures episode featuring Ringside Collectibles President, Jon Piontkowski! Check out the episode and let us know your thoughts!
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Nov 15, 2019 13:32:26 GMT -5
Has Ryder gone into why they cut the stuff he filmed on the podcast? I know they went out of their way to title an episode "The Toys That Made Us Beef", but I tapped out on that show a looooooong time ago. I've got my guesses, but I was just wondering if he's gone into it at all?
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Nov 15, 2019 14:30:17 GMT -5
The episode was good but not great. Didn’t need the history lesson of wrestling. Just jump right into Hulkamania and the Rock n Wrestling Connection. Everything before it is irrelevant. They also tried to cram too much content into 45 minutes so a lot of stuff was skimmed over. I think they should’ve just focused on the WWF/E license through Jakks with a quick mention of Mattel at the end and ignore AWA, WCW, and ECW.
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Post by Decky on Nov 15, 2019 14:33:12 GMT -5
The episode was good but not great. Didn’t need the history lesson of wrestling. Just jump right into Hulkamania and the Rock n Wrestling Connection. Everything before it is irrelevant. They also tried to cram too much content into 45 minutes so a lot of stuff was skimmed over. I think they should’ve just focused on the WWF/E license through Jakks with a quick mention of Mattel at the end and ignore AWA, WCW, and ECW. They have to attract casual viewers/non wrestling fans. For what it was, they did a great job.
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Post by Decky on Nov 15, 2019 14:34:38 GMT -5
Anybody ever see the tour of the RSC office and warehouse on the Ryder/Hawkins Youtube channel? Piontkowsk is a likeable guy with greatest collection of grails I have EVER seen!
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Nov 15, 2019 15:10:20 GMT -5
The episode was good but not great. Didn’t need the history lesson of wrestling. Just jump right into Hulkamania and the Rock n Wrestling Connection. Everything before it is irrelevant. They also tried to cram too much content into 45 minutes so a lot of stuff was skimmed over. I think they should’ve just focused on the WWF/E license through Jakks with a quick mention of Mattel at the end and ignore AWA, WCW, and ECW. They have to attract casual viewers/non wrestling fans. For what it was, they did a great job. And I think it would’ve been more entertaining if they would’ve narrowed down their focus to just WWF. There wasn’t really an ongoing narrative telling a cohesive story. It was all over the place because they tried to include way too much in a 45 minute doc.
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Post by Decky on Nov 15, 2019 15:11:56 GMT -5
They have to attract casual viewers/non wrestling fans. For what it was, they did a great job. And I think it would’ve been more entertaining if they would’ve narrowed down their focus to just WWF. There wasn’t really an ongoing narrative telling a cohesive story. It was all over the place because they tried to include way too much in a 45 minute doc. I wasn't expecting anything groundbreaking or too revealing from it. For nostalgic, casual Netflix users it was absolutely fine. As are the rest of the episodes.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Nov 15, 2019 15:18:36 GMT -5
I just finished it. It wasn't bad but wasn't the greatest. I did like "Jewish Lighting". Maybe he can get back into the game with AEW figures. And I wonder how big the crap Hogan left was??? lol
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Nov 15, 2019 15:22:41 GMT -5
I'll just be honest: they blew it. They made a condensed version of wrestling history. I felt like the episode did a serviceable job talking about the twists and turns of wrestling history with some behind-the-scenes bits of what was going on at LJN/Galoob/Remco/OSFTM/Jakks. I enjoyed hearing about what happened to LJN and the rarer black card series of Wrestling Superstars. That stuff was cool and fitting for this documentary. There is probably a ton of great b-roll footage from the interviews with Jon (who had interesting things to say) & Jeremy (who is integral in bringing legends back into market) but they got pushed to the sidelines by the obnoxious cutesy editing style to revert to MORE wrestling footage and more of this god awful "Jewish Lightning" story nobody asked for. I bet if you do an alternative cut of this with footage they already have, it could be much improved. Also, not interviewing Bill was a massive oversight. He and the Mattel team revolutionized wrestling figures as a whole, and that deserved much more focus. You don't gloss over BCA as "garbage" and then wax poetic about OSFTM. off with that. They tried to pretend that TTLs were this massive improvement when the reality is everyone hated TTLs until RealScan. That should've been covered, Jakks' ahead-of-its-time R3 line should've been at least discussed. But no, we have to revert to more wrestling footage, more bad comedy, more Jewish Lightning. I appreciate that they decided to make an episode about wrestling toys, but the direction of this was way off. More Jon, more Jeremy, Bill should've been involved, Ryder should've been involved...I really don't mean to be such a downer, I just wanted this to be a comprehensive look at the figures and the stories of how the lines came to be. I guess I have to do it...
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Nov 15, 2019 15:37:40 GMT -5
I'll just be honest: they blew it. They made a condensed version of wrestling history. I felt like the episode did a serviceable job talking about the twists and turns of wrestling history with some behind-the-scenes bits of what was going on at LJN/Galoob/Remco/OSFTM/Jakks. I enjoyed hearing about what happened to LJN and the rarer black card series of Wrestling Superstars. That stuff was cool and fitting for this documentary. There is probably a ton of great b-roll footage from the interviews with Jon (who had interesting things to say) & Jeremy (who is integral in bringing legends back into market) but they got pushed to the sidelines by the obnoxious cutesy editing style to revert to MORE wrestling footage and more of this god awful "Jewish Lightning" story nobody asked for. I bet if you do an alternative cut of this with footage they already have, it could be much improved. Also, not interviewing Bill was a massive oversight. He and the Mattel team revolutionized wrestling figures as a whole, and that deserved much more focus. You don't gloss over BCA as "garbage" and then wax poetic about OSFTM. off with that. They tried to pretend that TTLs were this massive improvement when the reality is everyone hated TTLs until RealScan. That should've been covered, Jakks' ahead-of-its-time R3 line should've been at least discussed. But no, we have to revert to more wrestling footage, more bad comedy, more Jewish Lightning. I appreciate that they decided to make an episode about wrestling toys, but the direction of this was way off. More Jon, more Jeremy, Bill should've been involved, Ryder should've been involved...I really don't mean to be such a downer, I just wanted this to be a comprehensive look at the figures and the stories of how the lines came to be. I guess I have to do it... Jewish Lightning would’ve been fine as a one off sound bite but they kept coming back to it like it was comedy gold.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Nov 15, 2019 15:41:02 GMT -5
I haven't watched yet, but I have to wonder if the people who didn't like it are new to the series overall or not, because the majority of the complaints that I'm hearing in terms of format and scratching the surface are....pretty par for the course for this series overall.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Nov 15, 2019 15:49:49 GMT -5
Yeah, you're probably right about that. I don't typically have Netflix and haven't seen an episode of the show in about a year now, so I guess the tone of it just isn't what I'm looking for. I'll check out the Power Rangers episode and will probably enjoy it more since that's just a shot of nostalgia to me and not a current interest I follow. I realize they gotta make the show accessible for larger audiences, so it has to be fluffed out like this.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Nov 15, 2019 15:50:52 GMT -5
I haven't watched yet, but I have to wonder if the people who didn't like it are new to the series overall or not, because the majority of the complaints that I'm hearing in terms of format and scratching the surface are....pretty par for the course for this series overall. Ive seen every episode other than the other 3 this season even toy lines that I have had zero interest in like Hello Kitty and Barbie. I didn’t hate the wrestling episode but I didn’t love it either. I think it could’ve been edited better and told a better story.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Nov 15, 2019 17:19:55 GMT -5
Looking forward to this. Would love to meet Jon one day!
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Post by marino13 on Nov 15, 2019 17:56:51 GMT -5
I enjoyed it.
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Nov 15, 2019 19:02:17 GMT -5
I enjoyed the episode. Could have had Ryder instead of zombiesailortoys, but no biggie.
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Post by mcfclee on Nov 15, 2019 19:56:04 GMT -5
I enjoyed the episode. Could have had Ryder instead of zombiesailortoys, but no biggie. He demanded to be pulled himself.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Nov 15, 2019 21:23:57 GMT -5
LOL I thought that guy was recognisable!
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Post by mightyone29 on Nov 15, 2019 21:31:29 GMT -5
You do not poach.
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Post by popyduggan on Nov 15, 2019 21:56:32 GMT -5
Has Ryder gone into why they cut the stuff he filmed on the podcast? I know they went out of their way to title an episode "The Toys That Made Us Beef", but I tapped out on that show a looooooong time ago. I've got my guesses, but I was just wondering if he's gone into it at all? I think they wrecked a bunch of stuff in his garage and he was very hospitable to them and in the end they made him look like a goof on the show, I think he said they interviewed his ex-girlfriend or something?
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