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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 19:09:24 GMT -5
...pro wrestling?
If pro wrestling were real, wouldn't you just do your finisher right at the gate to win a match? And if you have to wear an opponent down, why not just literally do your finisher over and over until you get the 3? And why do certain people only do certain moves? Wouldn't every person do every move, if the fight were real? And why do people go for pins every 30 seconds? You know you won't win until you hit at least one finisher.
Just some of the logic issues that come to mind for me in pro wrestling...how about you? None of it's a big deal really, but just funny stuff.
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Dec 13, 2019 19:48:11 GMT -5
I know a few people here who constantly ask why don't wrestlers utilize chairs and other weapons during Triple Threats and other multi-opponent matches when there is no disqualification.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Dec 13, 2019 19:55:10 GMT -5
In tag team rasslin when heel team are double teaming one of the faces while the other face is being told off by the ref for trying to get in the ring why doesn't he just say yo man turn around heels are being heelish.
Same during tag matches when you can clearly see someone running in the break up the pin but the guy doesn't seem to notice? Talk about tunnel vision.
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China Claus
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Post by China Claus on Dec 13, 2019 19:58:59 GMT -5
It's pro wrestling...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 20:34:35 GMT -5
When I started watching wrestling (5 years old) I was so confused why the champion didn't always sprint to the back as soon as the bell rang. After all, he couldn't lose the belt why would he give a f***?. Needless to say I always cheered for the heels who tried to get themselves counted out all the time because I thought they were the only ones using their brains. Who's Kayfabe?
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Post by bababooey on Dec 13, 2019 20:44:14 GMT -5
...pro wrestling? If pro wrestling were real, wouldn't you just do your finisher right at the gate to win a match? And if you have to wear an opponent down, why not just literally do your finisher over and over until you get the 3? And why do certain people only do certain moves? Wouldn't every person do every move, if the fight were real? And why do people go for pins every 30 seconds? You know you won't win until you hit at least one finisher. Just some of the logic issues that come to mind for me in pro wrestling...how about you? None of it's a big deal really, but just funny stuff. I actually remember an old Kurt Angle interview where he was explaining his approach to matches, and he said he personally likes to structure his matches around him always trying to get to his finisher. Basically, from the moment the bell rings he’s trying to hit an Angle Slam or Ankle Lock, but his opponent avoids it so he’s gotta do other stuff to wear them down, but all the other moves are targeting getting to his finisher. On wrestlers only doing certain moves, that actually makes total sense. Wrestlers don’t do every move because they can’t do every move well. You have wrestlers of different sizes that train in different styles. For example, I’ve never once wondered why Roman Reigns didn’t just do a 450 Splash or why Undertaker didn’t do a 619.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Dec 13, 2019 20:44:42 GMT -5
Makes perfect sense with your sig (yes I know Suzuki could kill me)
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Dec 13, 2019 20:44:46 GMT -5
What is the point of tag team matches with more than 2 teams but only 2 can be legal?
Why would you ever tag the wrong team on purpose? It’s just to create chaos.
Logically every 3+ tag team match should be tornado or elimination style.
Also triple threats where you don’t have to pin the champ to win.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Dec 16, 2019 8:21:18 GMT -5
No, I don't try to conflate much logic with many aspects of pro-wrestling because I understand that, at its core, pro-wrestling is one of the ultimate practices in the suspension of disbelief.
Similarly, I don't often try and understand the logic behind a purple cosmic deity seeking to wreak havoc and genocide across multiple galaxies using a bejeweled dish glove.
Some things are better left to mindless enjoyment.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Dec 16, 2019 8:52:02 GMT -5
(Don’t know if this counts) When Gorilla Monsoon was the WWF President why didn’t he have two refs for tag matches? He always said that on commentary!
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havoc7179
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Post by havoc7179 on Dec 16, 2019 10:04:43 GMT -5
I like the idea of everyone going for their finish early on, and that's how in ring storytelling is supposed to work.Flair would work over the leg before putting on the Figure 4. Hart would work thje back for the sharpshooter. Now, it's shoulder block, shoulder block, spinning suplex, fist drop, STF. No real in ring story.
If everyone just hit their finish early on though we'd be getting Brock matches where its a fast win, or Fiend matches where the finish is devalued. They ought to be just trying to hit it and weakening their opponent for it.
The biggest logic issue I have is the pin break up in tag matches. Either wrestling needs to really put over the fact again that a team only has one attempt to break up a pin, or they really need to work on making it so that the tag partner isn't just starring at his teammate getting pinned like a dummy despite the fact that he's broken up every other pin attempt int he match.
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Post by havoc7179 on Dec 16, 2019 10:13:23 GMT -5
Oh and dumb spots drive me nuts. Example:
1) You whip an opponent to the rope. Normally you wait until he's right next to you to back body drop him. Yet, this time as soon as you send him, you lower your head and are shocked that it got reversed.
2) You never go for a body splash or an elbow in the corner, yet after irish whipping your opponent into the turnbuckle, you charge and try to do just that and whiff.
reversals should occur with moves you're known for, or at least moves that aren't obvious. Best examples of these are AA into a Pele Kick, Hurricanrana off a pop up powerbomb, backdrop to counter a pedigree, or double leg takedown into a foot stop to counter a pedigree. I know theseobvious reversals are written off as them telegraphing it, but still. In ring story telling would be better if people didn't see obvious reversals coming.
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Post by Bandalero on Dec 16, 2019 11:26:02 GMT -5
why does it take so damn long to climb a ladder?
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Dec 16, 2019 11:43:07 GMT -5
(Don’t know if this counts) When Gorilla Monsoon was the WWF President why didn’t he have two refs for tag matches? He always said that on commentary! Typical. Promise all kinds of changes then doesn't deliver on a darn thing once in power.
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Post by John Zero on Dec 16, 2019 17:23:57 GMT -5
Ric Flair climbing to the top rope, even though he was thrown off the previous 10,000 times.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Dec 16, 2019 17:55:46 GMT -5
Why don't heel champs get themselves DQ'd when they're against a tough opponent.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Dec 16, 2019 20:57:49 GMT -5
Why are the referees made out of paper?
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Post by K5 on Dec 16, 2019 21:43:40 GMT -5
a big one is just people outside the ring waiting for someone to jump onto them. obviously some are flawless at flowing into that, but many just look like they’re waiting to catch them...which, of course, is exactly what they’re doing.
I can let that go.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Dec 17, 2019 9:43:00 GMT -5
Why are the referees made out of paper? They’re more cost efficient
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Post by The Shiniest Wizard on Dec 17, 2019 10:31:32 GMT -5
Samoa Joe in TNA had the best logic. When someone goes for a flip...just walk the other direction.
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