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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 22:23:53 GMT -5
I give it a F. Worst year since 1995.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 23:59:15 GMT -5
Wow 2 people give this year a B? Please tell me why? Here are my many reasons for the F...
Terrible storylines like Mike and Maria and Rusev/Lana/Lashley
The Hell in a Cell ending
Raws and Smackdowns being really boring
7/11 with Slurpee title
Shane McMahon's push
Baron Corbin's push and that cheap crown he wears
Kofi Kingston's tite run and how it ended
Brock Lesnar winning MITB and not even being in the match
Bringing in the women's tag team titles and treating them as a joke for most of the year
Charlotte being added to the women's match at wrestemania and the weak way it happened(Vince came out and said she was added)
Weak ppvs and the both Saudi shows sucked
Moment of Bliss segments. I love Alexa, but these were a waste of time
Underutilizing talent(there was a period where Nakamura wasn't on tv despite being IC Champion)
Revival segment where one guy was shaving the other's back
Shorty G
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Post by East Coast on Dec 25, 2019 0:17:55 GMT -5
well u listed off storylines. I thought u meant just the roster.
and i would give that an F. They have like 100 ppl on main roster. And only like 3 of them can get over.
u list off 24/7 title as being a bad thing. but R-Truth is one of the only ppl thats actually over. Its pretty much R-Truth, Otis, Becky Lynch & Daniel Bryan
grading the actual product and storylines. I'd give a D.
Kofi's run to the title and winning was pretty good except for the stupid gauntlet matches all the time. Fiend debut was dope. 24/7 title was good for awhile
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Dec 25, 2019 2:42:59 GMT -5
Gonna need to be more specific, i gave it A originally because i thought you meant the Roster itself, which is definitely an A.
But, since it's product quality, i gave it C. There's been some bad, bad crap. But there's also been some good stuff as well.
The main thing that gives it a C is the match quality on both shows, every show there's 1 or 2 enjoyably good matches. As for PPV's, there's been some great matches so that's a bonus.
I wouldn't call 2019 the worst year since 1995 at all. 2010 & 2018 take the cake for worst years since 1995, those 2 years were complete dumpster fire trash crap years.
In terms of worst years, i'd put 2019 behind 2010 & 2018.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Dec 25, 2019 2:44:27 GMT -5
I gave it an F!
Until No Way Jose is WWE Champion, the WWE product is gonna be stale and boring.
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Post by LA Times on Dec 25, 2019 9:04:59 GMT -5
Id give it a C-/D+. The year sucked, but wasnt as bad as 2014-2015. How can people forget the Wild Card Rule and the 2/3 Falls Phase over the summer for the worst moments?
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 25, 2019 9:57:37 GMT -5
A hard F. They pushed Seth Rollins to the title and made him the top babyface - nobody ever asked for this, it’s that damn Vince again shoving people down our throats.
I sure hope he pushes Kevin Owens and Samoa Joe in 2020! And I definitely won’t turn on them if he does!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 10:17:31 GMT -5
Id give it a C-/D+. The year sucked, but wasnt as bad as 2014-2015. How can people forget the Wild Card Rule and the 2/3 Falls Phase over the summer for the worst moments? Early 2014 was great because of the whole Daniel Bryan thing and him winning the title at wm 30, but yeah it went downhill after that. I forgot to mention the Corbin vs Reigns feud that involves dog food and a mascot. |
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Dec 25, 2019 12:47:34 GMT -5
I give the 2019 WWE main roster an A, because A+ isn't an option!!
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Dec 25, 2019 16:29:14 GMT -5
Solid D if you're just nentioning the main roster. If NXT is included, solid C.
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Post by Darkhawk on Dec 25, 2019 16:42:33 GMT -5
I give it an F mainly because there wasn't been a BIG MATCH this year. The only big exciting thing was the debut of The Fiend, other than that it's been a pretty stale year.
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Post by PJ on Dec 25, 2019 17:48:07 GMT -5
Actual talent I don’t see any issues with. Sure there’s a few who wouldn’t be with the company if I had any say. But they all seem to be giving the effort. As for the storylines there’s been some real clunkers, but that’s not on the roster.
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 25, 2019 18:16:21 GMT -5
It's a C.
People can bitch about RAW and SD all they want, and much of it is deserved but there is some good stuff done weekly as well. As I've said before, if you're still bitching, then you're still watching so there is SOMETHING that still brings you in.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Dec 25, 2019 18:31:27 GMT -5
C Reasons why-- Asuka and Kairi getting some LONG  ING OVERDUE love Kofi getting a chance Rollins beast slaying Becky 2 belts not lasting very long Heel Bayley Truth and Carmella Rollins winning the rumble Some very solid work from guys like Ali, Riccochet, Cedric, etc that often goes unappreciated Sami Zayn on the mic Downsides-- Becky 2 belts was a thing Sasha return/heel turn wasted Beast in the bank King Corbin Robert Roode...no Lashley/Lana vs Rusev Viking Raiders On the fence-- Shorty G The fiend. Why waste it on Bray? I'd like it if it wasnt husky Harris under the mask Some good, some bad, some grey area. Solid C. |
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Dec 25, 2019 22:07:58 GMT -5
Id give it a C-/D+. The year sucked, but wasnt as bad as 2014-2015. How can people forget the Wild Card Rule and the 2/3 Falls Phase over the summer for the worst moments? , but yeah it went downhill after that. I forgot to mention the Corbin vs Reigns feud that involves dog food and a mascot. I think early - mid(ish) 2014 was one of the better periods in WWE History. It started to go downhill around Summerslam in my opinion. Though it did have one of the best moments of the year, and one of the best Survivor Series matches of all time with the Cena vs Authority match. |
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Post by hitmancmedge on Dec 25, 2019 22:24:51 GMT -5
I gave it a C. There was a decent amount of good, (The Fiend, Eco Daniel Bryan, Zayn/Nakamura, The King of The Ring tournament, Buddy Murphy, I actually have liked the Seth heel turn, Aj/Ricochet, The OC, Lashley/Braun feud, R-Truth, the survivor series build/event, Heavy Machinery, Kabuki Warriors) and some bad. Honestly people focus too much on the bad.
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Post by LK3 on Dec 25, 2019 22:50:52 GMT -5
Went with D. I feel F is too harsh given the talent they have, but I think a C is too generous given what they’ve done with the talent they have. And it’s not like we were completely without some great matches and moments, but not enough and too much BS mixed in between.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 22:57:13 GMT -5
Actual talent I don’t see any issues with. Sure there’s a few who wouldn’t be with the company if I had any say. But they all seem to be giving the effort. As for the storylines there’s been some real clunkers, but that’s not on the roster. I should have just said "give WWE a letter grade" but reason I put main roster is because I specifically meant that product and not NXT(for the record I give them an A- for 2019) |
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Dec 26, 2019 3:23:28 GMT -5
D. Gonna be generous and not hand out an F since none of Creative/mgmt's decisions led to the death of someone. Had a handful of positives:
- the returns to prominence of Daniel Bryan, Kevin Owens, and as of last Raw, Samoa Joe
- Roman Reigns not being hotshotted to a major title just because of his "heroic struggles", though that is to be rectified shortly
- R-Truth getting a vehicle to show his charisma again
- the upholding of the characters of Bray Wyatt and Aleister Black, though mostly due to them having maybe 20 matches combined
- the sorta re-emergence of tag teams, spurred by in-ring action and the skits by Street Profits and Heavy Machinery
But even taking those into account, the shortcomings keep this year from being considered a good one. Generally talent not being given the best chances to succeed, the talents receiving pushes that don't take full advantage of organic crowd support. Getting into specifics:
- the complete failures in fully investing in World title holders Seth Rollins and Kofi Kingston only to start back on their superface agenda by giving both World titles to unstoppable monster heels, making it clear only a select few will be able to dethrone them
- the neutering of Becky Lynch going into the Rumble and all the way thru Mania, when her storyline couldn't have been any easier to write
- the McMahons promising wholesale changes and that the voices of the fans would be heard, while only consolidating their power and eliminating on-screen GM roles
- Shorty G
- the mishandling of the Women's tag titles
- tricking the sheeple by making Roman's position in the company seem not as oppressive and forced, thinking that paired with his "courageous fight against cancer" will sustain support for him
- sudden start-and-stop pushes for a plethora of talent, most only lasting a handful of weeks
- Shorty G
- all the relationship-related storylines (Rollins/Lynch, the Kanellis paternity angle, the Rusev/Lana/Lashley triangle, etc.)
- Shorty G
- giving talent carrots only to encourage them to re-sign, only to put them right back into obscurity soon after
- Viking Experience; also, Shorty G
- "Wild Card" rules, followed by a very underwhelming "hard" brand split
- Ziggler and Corbin having sustained pushes at the top of the card
- Shane McMahon getting even more importance in and out of the ring
- SHORTY F*CKING G!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by LK3 on Dec 26, 2019 4:40:42 GMT -5
All valid points. I wish you’d have brought up one other point though.
Shorty G. Yay or nay?
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