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Post by Hulkster2001 on Jan 10, 2020 8:57:07 GMT -5
In 1992 Bret Hart was apparently going to jumpship to WCW after losing the IC title to the Mountie, but stayed and went on to win the WWF Championship in the same year before ultimately ending up in WCW 5 years later. But what if Bret had left in ‘92 instead of staying? Who would be the face of the new generation in Bret’s absence? Who would’ve defeated Flair for the title? How would Bret do in WCW, who would he face? How long would he last in the company? Imagine Bret Hart vs Stunning Steve Austin or Bret v. Surfer Sting. Imagine the matches he could’ve had if he had jumpship to WCW in 1992? |
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Post by MKSavage on Jan 10, 2020 11:17:05 GMT -5
Interesting to think about. I think he would have done well there, there was a lot of good talent in WCW at the time. I could definitely see him coming right into the US title picture and feuding with Ravishing Rick Rude and Stunning Steve Austin. I could also see him working with Dustin Rhodes, Barry Windham, Arn Anderson, Bobby Eaton, Ricky Steamboat, Brian Pillman, and Larry Zbyszko to name a few. He also could have been in consideration for one of the members of the 4 horsemen with Flair, Arn, and Beniot. For WWF, not sure who they would have gotten to take the title at that time, from what Prichard said, Vince was not high on Undertaker being the world champion as he saw him more as an attraction (like Andre) than the face of the company. Savage was having marriage issues at this time and probably wasn't going to be in the title picture for much longer - I believe this was the reason they took the title off of him at a house show. Shawn was not ready at this time to take over the reigns, Razor Ramon and Diesel were just entering the company so they weren't an option yet. They might have stayed with Flair as the champion for a little while longer, maybe feuding with Mr. Perfect over it then losing it to Hogan at WM9. If Hogan decided not to stay after KOTR 93, Vince may have been more willing to give the belt to Luger at SSL93.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jan 10, 2020 13:07:19 GMT -5
Bret Hart would have never looked right in WCW in 1992. Hell, Bret didn't look right in WCW in 1998 - 2000.
If Bret had left though in 1992?? Hmmmm..... I suppose Vince could have pushed Razor Ramon then. He was new to the company, but he had the size, charisma and look to be WWE Champion in Vince's eyes.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jan 10, 2020 16:14:39 GMT -5
I don't know if I'd be a fan today if Bret was in WCW back then.
My brother and I started watching the WWF in 1993/1994 and Bret was our absolute favorite. Judging by how his later WCW run went I'd say he made the right choice staying with the WWF. Also, with Hogan coming into WCW around 1994 there was no way in hell Bret would have been anywhere near the main event scene.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 17:32:32 GMT -5
he woulda did good in 92/93 with sting, rude, bulldog over there.
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Post by The Brain on Jan 10, 2020 17:34:08 GMT -5
Bret vs Rude.
Would've been to quote Gorilla''A main event anywhere in the country.''
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 11, 2020 7:51:41 GMT -5
I think he would have done well initially but would have suffered later on. I also don't think he would have ben champ over there as quick.
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Post by Retrospect on Jan 13, 2020 23:29:36 GMT -5
I think he would have had great matches but I don’t think he would have flourished like he did in WWF. WCW wasn’t very good at pushing talent at that time. He would have done alright in 92-93 but once Hogan came over he would have been lost in the mid-card. It would have been nice to see him feud with Rude, Steamboat, and the 4 Horsemen tho. Hart and Steamboat could have done great things together.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Jan 14, 2020 1:59:51 GMT -5
Without Bret the WWF's mid-90s would have been much, much worse. With no Bret there would have presumably been no babyface to carry the promotion. Diesel would have been worse off and we probably would have seen some Razor Ramon WWF championship reigns.
If you add Bret Hart to 1992 WCW I think you could have the strongest and most diverse rosters in any promotion ever. Then again, with no Bret in WWF, my fandom would have been in serious jeopardy. For all I know without Bret flying high from 93-97 I wouldn't be a fan today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 3:11:16 GMT -5
Without Bret the WWF's mid-90s would have been much, much worse. With no Bret there would have presumably been no babyface to carry the promotion. Diesel would have been worse off and we probably would have seen some Razor Ramon WWF championship reigns. If you add Bret Hart to 1992 WCW I think you could have the strongest and most diverse rosters in any promotion ever. Then again, with no Bret in WWF, my fandom would have been in serious jeopardy. For all I know without Bret flying high from 93-97 I wouldn't be a fan today. they had shawn, mr perfect, luger, and woulda prb kept savage and pushed him harder. |
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Jan 14, 2020 7:53:51 GMT -5
Without Bret the WWF's mid-90s would have been much, much worse. With no Bret there would have presumably been no babyface to carry the promotion. Diesel would have been worse off and we probably would have seen some Razor Ramon WWF championship reigns. If you add Bret Hart to 1992 WCW I think you could have the strongest and most diverse rosters in any promotion ever. Then again, with no Bret in WWF, my fandom would have been in serious jeopardy. For all I know without Bret flying high from 93-97 I wouldn't be a fan today. they had shawn, mr perfect, luger, and woulda prb kept savage and pushed him harder. Maybe. I think Shawn would be in a heel spot having the feud with Diesel. Luger also would probably still jump and Vince was very on board with Savage not wrestling anymore after 92 and Perfect had on and off back problems. Lots of hypotheticals but the WWF struggled in 94 and 95 with those guys and Bret. Can't see it going that well when you take the top star at that time away. |
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Post by K5 on Jan 14, 2020 13:56:16 GMT -5
he would've gotten ran over by the nwo and sizzled out, that's sadly the only real way i see it going. wcw was politically locked - it went from flair being on top to hogan, and there was never really room for anyone else than sting to emerge in that environment.
we at least maybe would've gotten some good rude feuds, vader and maybe even cactus.
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Jan 14, 2020 15:00:07 GMT -5
If Bret had jumped to WCW and stayed thru '96, would that had made him a founding member of NWO?
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Post by Gorilla on Jan 21, 2020 6:17:51 GMT -5
he would've gotten ran over by the nwo and sizzled out, that's sadly the only real way i see it going. wcw was politically locked - it went from flair being on top to hogan, and there was never really room for anyone else than sting to emerge in that environment. we at least maybe would've gotten some good rude feuds, vader and maybe even cactus. NWO weren't around in 1992 |
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Post by K5 on Jan 21, 2020 9:13:08 GMT -5
he would've gotten ran over by the nwo and sizzled out, that's sadly the only real way i see it going. wcw was politically locked - it went from flair being on top to hogan, and there was never really room for anyone else than sting to emerge in that environment. we at least maybe would've gotten some good rude feuds, vader and maybe even cactus. NWO weren't around in 1992 correct. I was saying that when nwo surfaced, if Bret had been there since 92, he would’ve been swept under the rug by nwo. |
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Post by rowdy1971 on Jan 21, 2020 17:39:55 GMT -5
I think Bret would have held the title a lot sooner than later if he went in 92. I think he and Luger would have traded it back and forth, but then Flair would return and we'd get those matches. After that? I think Hart would have just fade away once the attitude era from both companies started to take off. In my opinion, Bret just didn't fit in during that era.
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Post by FLUX on Jan 21, 2020 17:44:30 GMT -5
Razor, Perfect, and/or Piper would've gotten a run with the WWF title and all would've been right in the world.
Instead, we got bland ass Bret Hart.
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Post by wolfpac on Jan 21, 2020 19:46:25 GMT -5
Definitely Mr Perfect who takes it right to mania to drop it to Yoko as what Bret did.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Jan 22, 2020 11:34:50 GMT -5
Razor, Perfect, and/or Piper would've gotten a run with the WWF title and all would've been right in the world. Instead, we got bland ass Bret Hart. Yeah, because post-92 Bret Hart being wrestling's top draw until the nWo took off was so bad. Vince would have been rolling in money in 1995. Bret was holding him back haha |
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Post by whydontyoutellme on Jan 22, 2020 11:56:39 GMT -5
Razor, Perfect, and/or Piper would've gotten a run with the WWF title and all would've been right in the world. Instead, we got bland ass Bret Hart. So either the new unproven guy who showed up just a few months earlier, or the injured guy who wouldn't return to singles matches until the next year, or the part time wrestler who wouldn't wrestle against until 1994, would have won the title if Bret Hart hadn't been there. Now that's some fantasy booking! |
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