tenup
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Post by tenup on Jan 15, 2020 22:40:02 GMT -5
I can't stand Rumble Entrants that don't take their spots seriously. Everyone should be gunning for that wrestlemania spot. After all this is the one chance most wrestlers on the roster get at headlining the main event despite their rank on the roster. What are your thoughts on this issue? Should main event guys be the only ones winning the Rumble each year?
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Post by LK3 on Jan 16, 2020 2:22:34 GMT -5
Main event guys ARE the only ones winning the Rumble each year.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jan 16, 2020 4:29:26 GMT -5
I think this idea that the Rumble is there to 'make' guys is a total fallacy. The only times they've tried that (Sinsuke, Roman) it's blown up in their faces.
The Royal Rumble has always been for main event talent to win, not counting the two mentioned and the first one with Duggan.
In the spirit of the original post, however, you're right: everyone who enters the Rumble - mid-carder or curtain jerker - should be kayfabe treating it as the opportunity of a lifetime.
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jason1980s
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 16, 2020 15:00:52 GMT -5
I always thought the mid 1990s rumbles had wasted spots. The non-WWF talents shouldn't have gotten a spot over the regular roster guys. I know Lief Cassidy or Aldo Montoya weren't popular in 1997 but it's not like the lucha guys made much difference in the PPV.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 15:40:28 GMT -5
I will be posting my Rumble Rules this weekend that WWE should adopt that will cover these issues.
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Post by MacReady on Jan 16, 2020 16:08:14 GMT -5
I will be posting my Rumble Rules this weekend that WWE should adopt that will cover these issues. Oh okay? Anyway, yeah, but it’s no different than any weekly show in theory... every guy on the roster should be out to get to the TOP, but we have No Way Jose...
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 16, 2020 16:46:13 GMT -5
I have to agree, I recently watched the 98 Rumble and everyone, even The Headbangers put up a fight in that match. Even The Nation of Domination fought each other because they were desperate to win.
It is the one and only time when the lowest in the card has a chance to fight for the belt so they should be doing all in their power to not be eliminated.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 17, 2020 11:03:10 GMT -5
Some of the worst Royal Rumble wasted spots:
2008-Superfly Jimmy Snuka, Hornswoggle, Mick Foley 2009-Hacksaw Jim Duggan 2011-Hornswoggle 2012-Mick Foley, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Michael Cole, Kharma, Road Dogg, Jerry the King 2019-Nia Jax, Xavier Woods, Titus O Neil, Bobby Lashley, No Way Jose (these 4 appeared to be trying to set a new record for fastest elimination)
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ElsaHosk
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Post by ElsaHosk on Jan 17, 2020 15:42:20 GMT -5
Some of the worst Royal Rumble wasted spots: 2008-Superfly Jimmy Snuka, Hornswoggle, Mick Foley 2009-Hacksaw Jim Duggan 2011-Hornswoggle 2012-Mick Foley, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Michael Cole, Kharma, Road Dogg, Jerry the King 2019-Nia Jax, Xavier Woods, Titus O Neil, Bobby Lashley, No Way Jose (these 4 appeared to be trying to set a new record for fastest elimination) Do you just hate fun or?
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Post by LA Times on Jan 17, 2020 15:49:01 GMT -5
Some of the worst Royal Rumble wasted spots: 2008-Superfly Jimmy Snuka, Hornswoggle, Mick Foley 2009-Hacksaw Jim Duggan 2011-Hornswoggle 2012-Mick Foley, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Michael Cole, Kharma, Road Dogg, Jerry the King 2019-Nia Jax, Xavier Woods, Titus O Neil, Bobby Lashley, No Way Jose (these 4 appeared to be trying to set a new record for fastest elimination) Do you just hate fun or? I like seeing wrestlers giving every effort in their one chance for getting a title shot at Wrestlemania, not comedy Rumbles with legends, midgets and freak shows.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jan 17, 2020 20:25:21 GMT -5
I like seeing wrestlers giving every effort in their one chance for getting a title shot at Wrestlemania, not comedy Rumbles with legends, midgets and freak shows. Hense why the 2006-2010 Rumbles are some of the absolute best because even the midcard guys were putting in a lot of effort and would last more than 2 minutes
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 17, 2020 21:39:53 GMT -5
I like seeing wrestlers giving every effort in their one chance for getting a title shot at Wrestlemania, not comedy Rumbles with legends, midgets and freak shows. Hense why the 2006-2010 Rumbles are some of the absolute best because even the midcard guys were putting in a lot of effort and would last more than 2 minutes That's something I can't stand about modern Rumbles. Mid/lower carders are portrayed as feeble jobbers who can't survive being tossed over by a top guy.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Jan 18, 2020 18:46:00 GMT -5
I enjoy the "wasted" spots the match is actually boring most the time as its a lot of resting while 2 guys get their bits in, camera misses eliminations because the people mistime their spots or whatever, the half assed "trying" to eliminate an opponent. I can't remember what year (it was recent) where we had no surprise entrants and it was kinda dull. I think we had a few jobbers thrown in to make the numbers up but no one I'd pay to see... I know a Legend isn't going to win but it marks the start of Mania season where anything can happen.
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Post by 666erickana on Jan 21, 2020 14:14:39 GMT -5
I hate tag partners in rr, and also someone that is already booked on the card
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Post by Bandalero on Jan 21, 2020 14:36:26 GMT -5
I can't stand Rumble Entrants that don't take their spots seriously. Everyone should be gunning for that wrestlemania spot. After all this is the one chance most wrestlers on the roster get at headlining the main event despite their rank on the roster. What are your thoughts on this issue? Should main event guys be the only ones winning the Rumble each year? If this was kayfabe, then yes - every eager greenhorn on the roster would be killing to get a spot and fighting their way through 29 guys to earn their title shot. But it's not. You have to entertain tens of thousands of fans for 1hr + in a gimmick match, so your going to get your comedy spots and wasted entrants, it's par for the course.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Jan 21, 2020 15:06:02 GMT -5
Just watched the 2005 Rumble where Nunzio just handed over his spot. Shouldn't have taken that.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 21, 2020 15:34:53 GMT -5
I think this idea that the Rumble is there to 'make' guys is a total fallacy. The only times they've tried that (Sinsuke, Roman) it's blown up in their faces. The Royal Rumble has always been for main event talent to win, not counting the two mentioned and the first one with Duggan. In the spirit of the original post, however, you're right: everyone who enters the Rumble - mid-carder or curtain jerker - should be kayfabe treating it as the opportunity of a lifetime. There are still examples of it working. They kind of did it with Luger in 94 but understandably didn't pull the trigger at Mania. Beyond him though, HBK in 95 (and 96), Austin in 97 (and 98), Becky Lynch, and I'd say Benoit and Batista both fall into this category from 04 and 05. Del Rio, Sheamus and Nakamura all kind of fall into the category of failed experiments. Reigns became a top guy, albeit despite his Royal Rumble win haha. Even though Nakamura never stuck around the main event, I feel like a lot of people really enjoyed that Rumble because he did win. Kofi didn't win the Rumble, but I think most people really enjoyed watching him jump up to the next level and become champion. I think that's kind of what people hope for each year is something to feel outside of what we see every year with the usual suspects. So for instance this year, I think Joe or McIntyre should win, and I think people would love it. It's ten times as likely that Velasquez will eliminate Brock to setup that rematch, and Reigns will win the Rumble and conquer the Fiend at Mania. Both of which are yawn inducing. I think people generally liked the Santino moment where he almost won. I'd just like the final two to be a potential fresh winner so the end of the match feels wild. Maybe have Drew McIntyre and Bobby Lashley be the final two, or Samoa Joe and Aleister Black. It's like in ECW when Paul E would have the previous champion eliminated first so the crowd knew they were getting a new winner. Get to the final four and make sure guys like Orton, Reigns, Brock, Rollins, etc. are all gone.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 23, 2020 10:46:54 GMT -5
Just watched the 2005 Rumble where Nunzio just handed over his spot. Shouldn't have taken that. I seriously thought Daniel Puder was going to win the Royal Rumble that year. They were offering $1 million in the Tough Enough to find a new star after The Rock, Brock Lesnar, Goldberg, etc left and I guess they didnt see John Cena or Batista as main eventers back in late 2004.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 23, 2020 11:20:05 GMT -5
All the nostalgia entrants are wasted.
As much as people pop when like Road Dogg, Diesel, DDP, and other legends come out.....this is a match to see who MAIN EVENTS WRESTLEMANIA FOR THE WORLD TITLE! The Royal Rumble should be taken seriously and should only contain current main roster and select high level NXT Superstars.
Do we really need like Hacksaw Jim Duggan coming out just for the lolz? Does he deserve a shot at being #1 contender in his 60's?
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Post by McBlake on Jan 23, 2020 12:32:36 GMT -5
Just watched the 2005 Rumble where Nunzio just handed over his spot. Shouldn't have taken that. I seriously thought Daniel Puder was going to win the Royal Rumble that year. They were offering $1 million in the Tough Enough to find a new star after The Rock, Brock Lesnar, Goldberg, etc left and I guess they didnt see John Cena or Batista as main eventers back in late 2004. Still pisses me off how he was treated, particularly in the 2005 Royal Rumble.
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