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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 22, 2020 18:35:39 GMT -5
I don’t get why Mattel don’t just spend millions of dollars on trying out every poorly-conceived, pie-in-the-sky notion proposed by random angry teens online. It’s clearly the way to turn business around.
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Post by CM Poor on Jan 22, 2020 19:04:59 GMT -5
What if Mattel just made a few minor tweaks to m'budget, cancelled the Barbie line entirely, and used that freed up capital to flood the stores with Kassius Ohnos and Harley Races? In theory, would this move not signify a drastic uptick in earnings by tomorrow?
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Post by powerfred3k on Jan 22, 2020 19:35:42 GMT -5
LA Times CM PoorSo mattel loses 210 million dollars in 3 quarters and hasbro makes 358 million and your saying no changes need to be made. Even if you don't like my vendor idea you can't keep losing money like that and expect to survive. So the point is they need to do something or they are just gonna slow burn to bankruptcy or being bought out or both. Also hasbro seems to be doing just fine without toysrus. Hasbro also took a huge hit when toys r us went out of business. It's called bouncing back. Yep and Hasbro just spent 3.3 billion dollars in cash to buy another company to add to its portfolio. So Hasbro is on the right track and even enquired about buying mattel 2 years ago. Mattel has not "bounced back" and I'm struggling to figure out how they will without a drastic changes. Do you have any ideas that don't involve bankruptcy or being bought out ?
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Post by CM Poor on Jan 22, 2020 21:03:06 GMT -5
I like how you keep asking for ideas, as if anyone on this board is going to be the one that completely flips the switch on Mattel.
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Post by Keck Collects on Jan 23, 2020 1:40:01 GMT -5
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 23, 2020 6:54:45 GMT -5
What if Mattel just made a few minor tweaks to m'budget, cancelled the Barbie line entirely, and used that freed up capital to flood the stores with Kassius Ohnos and Harley Races? In theory, would this move not signify a drastic uptick in earnings by tomorrow? If Mattel did this, I’m pretty sure profits would skyrocket so hard that Mattel could bring back both KBtoys and Blockbuster within two weeks. Both chains would have four Mattel booths in every store, all staffed by adorable Mattel waifus who smiled shyly as they hand over m’exclusives.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 18, 2020 11:08:18 GMT -5
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 18, 2020 11:13:46 GMT -5
Walmart didnt stock anything. Each of the 3 I regularly hit up all got 2 cases of WWE figures, 0 marvel legends and everything else like Jurrassic Park, power rangers, etc all warmed and are still warming shelves.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Feb 18, 2020 11:23:11 GMT -5
Don't believe Mattel need to designate chases anymore, now that Wal-Mart's new distribution strategy has turned every b&m figure into one...
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Post by JKLMD2002 on Feb 18, 2020 11:31:12 GMT -5
Walmart didnt stock anything. Each of the 3 I regularly hit up all got 2 cases of WWE figures, 0 marvel legends and everything else like Jurrassic Park, power rangers, etc all warmed and are still warming shelves. A million times this. Whether it's parents or hardcore collectors like us if stores don't keep product in stock there's no reason to keep going when Amazon delivers to your door. It seems like a real simple principle, but if you have toys on shelves and not empty pegs, people will buy them. Also, if you have an exclusive and don't have at least that in stock it leads to no sales. Instead of selling two Muracos for example, random guy buys one figure and I buy that one figure from him instead of Wal-Mart getting the two sales. It's not that hard.
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Post by powerfred3k on Feb 18, 2020 13:54:26 GMT -5
You would think at some point someone at mattel would figure out what is going wrong with product not getting to stores.
Either way if its them or walmart/target and do something or anything to fix it, but nope.
Its hard to sell wwe figures when there is nothing there especially during holiday time.
I say this and then some stores get 3-4 cases of elites of the same series that rot for months.
So its one extreme or another with mattel, especially when walmarts get into those end cap displays.
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Post by WOOOOOO on Feb 18, 2020 14:22:01 GMT -5
You would think at some point someone at mattel would figure out what is going wrong with product not getting to stores. Either way if its them or walmart/target and do something or anything to fix it, but nope. Its hard to sell wwe figures when there is nothing there especially during holiday time. I say this and then some stores get 3-4 cases of elites of the same series that rot for months. So its one extreme or another with mattel, especially when walmarts get into those end cap displays. I think it's a Target / Walmart problem more than Mattel. Mattel sold their lot to these stores so after that they care less if they ever hit shelves. Target and Walmart though have some stores getting cases weekly while other stores sometimes just a town over have sit with 0 on the inventory for 5 plus months. You would think the retailer would be curious why there are so many empty shelves. Maybe these figures are produced in much lower quantities than we think because it's not like once a series hits Target or Walmart you find that same set in discount stores later. It's just the sets that completely skip the big box stores that find discount shelves.
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Post by powerfred3k on Feb 18, 2020 16:00:27 GMT -5
You would think at some point someone at mattel would figure out what is going wrong with product not getting to stores. Either way if its them or walmart/target and do something or anything to fix it, but nope. Its hard to sell wwe figures when there is nothing there especially during holiday time. I say this and then some stores get 3-4 cases of elites of the same series that rot for months. So its one extreme or another with mattel, especially when walmarts get into those end cap displays. I think it's a Target / Walmart problem more than Mattel. Mattel sold their lot to these stores so after that they care less if they ever hit shelves. Target and Walmart though have some stores getting cases weekly while other stores sometimes just a town over have sit with 0 on the inventory for 5 plus months. You would think the retailer would be curious why there are so many empty shelves. Maybe these figures are produced in much lower quantities than we think because it's not like once a series hits Target or Walmart you find that same set in discount stores later. It's just the sets that completely skip the big box stores that find discount shelves. So its not a priority for mattel since its been shipped to whoever, and its not a priority to lets just say "Target" since there too much of an upscale retailer to care about wwe figures. So its just a "Yeah we will get around to shipping those toys to stores soon, I promise" attitude. So people who want to buy them in a store leave empty handed most of the time. Yes i am singling target because they have been without a doubt the worst retailer this year and maybe the whole past decade of stocking wrestling figures. So if its too much of a bother for target, then just stop carrying them officially and the problem will resolve itself.
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 18, 2020 16:06:42 GMT -5
I think it's a Target / Walmart problem more than Mattel. Mattel sold their lot to these stores so after that they care less if they ever hit shelves. Target and Walmart though have some stores getting cases weekly while other stores sometimes just a town over have sit with 0 on the inventory for 5 plus months. You would think the retailer would be curious why there are so many empty shelves. Maybe these figures are produced in much lower quantities than we think because it's not like once a series hits Target or Walmart you find that same set in discount stores later. It's just the sets that completely skip the big box stores that find discount shelves. So its not a priority for mattel since its been shipped to whoever, and its not a priority to lets just say "Target" since there too much of an upscale retailer to care about wwe figures. So its just a "Yeah we will get around to shipping those toys to stores soon, I promise" attitude. So people who want to buy them in a store leave empty handed most of the time. Yes i am singling target because they have been without a doubt the worst retailer this year and maybe the whole past decade of stocking wrestling figures. So if its too much of a bother for target, then just stop carrying them officially and the problem will resolve itself. I am D Y I N G to know how you reached this particular conclusion? Is it Mossimo Giannulli? Please tell me it's Mossimo Giannulli.
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Post by WOOOOOO on Feb 18, 2020 16:28:58 GMT -5
I think it's a Target / Walmart problem more than Mattel. Mattel sold their lot to these stores so after that they care less if they ever hit shelves. Target and Walmart though have some stores getting cases weekly while other stores sometimes just a town over have sit with 0 on the inventory for 5 plus months. You would think the retailer would be curious why there are so many empty shelves. Maybe these figures are produced in much lower quantities than we think because it's not like once a series hits Target or Walmart you find that same set in discount stores later. It's just the sets that completely skip the big box stores that find discount shelves. So its not a priority for mattel since its been shipped to whoever, and its not a priority to lets just say "Target" since there too much of an upscale retailer to care about wwe figures. So its just a "Yeah we will get around to shipping those toys to stores soon, I promise" attitude. So people who want to buy them in a store leave empty handed most of the time. Yes i am singling target because they have been without a doubt the worst retailer this year and maybe the whole past decade of stocking wrestling figures. So if its too much of a bother for target, then just stop carrying them officially and the problem will resolve itself. Thing is as much as it sucks its doing exactly what these retail stores want. They keep you coming back regardless of how frustrating it may be. When u go back u possibly buy something else u need because u are already there. Maybe u leave with nothing but either way they know u will be back looking for those items. It wont ever stop. WWE figures dont make Walmart or Target enough money for them to be remotely close to concerned whether they are on shelves or not. They sell them eventually anyway. Neither is sitting on a warehouse full of WWE figures just because they are too lazy to ship them to stores. Goes back to maybe these are not as overly produced as we think.
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Post by WOOOOOO on Feb 18, 2020 16:31:26 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet now that once the new AEW figure line hits stores they are going to be just as hard if not even more difficult to track down at stores than the elites currently are.
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 18, 2020 16:43:24 GMT -5
You would think at some point someone at mattel would figure out what is going wrong with product not getting to stores. Either way if its them or walmart/target and do something or anything to fix it, but nope. Its hard to sell wwe figures when there is nothing there especially during holiday time. I say this and then some stores get 3-4 cases of elites of the same series that rot for months. So its one extreme or another with mattel, especially when walmarts get into those end cap displays. I think it's a Target / Walmart problem more than Mattel. Mattel sold their lot to these stores so after that they care less if they ever hit shelves. Target and Walmart though have some stores getting cases weekly while other stores sometimes just a town over have sit with 0 on the inventory for 5 plus months. You would think the retailer would be curious why there are so many empty shelves. Maybe these figures are produced in much lower quantities than we think because it's not like once a series hits Target or Walmart you find that same set in discount stores later. It's just the sets that completely skip the big box stores that find discount shelves. See everyone, including Mattel, says "its Walmart/Targets fault...." but why is it of all toy brands the only thing that can't make shelves is Mattel product? If it was Wally & Target DCs, shouldn't Hasbro, JAKKS Spin master etc be having the same distribution problems?
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 18, 2020 16:47:52 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet now that once the new AEW figure line hits stores they are going to be just as hard if not even more difficult to track down at stores than the elites currently are. If anything, I think it'll get us a better idea of what's going on. If the AEW line is similar in size and scope to the Mattel line and become readily available in stores, then I'm fully prepared to eat my hat and say that I was wrong and this was clearly a Mattel issue. If the AEW line exhibits similar degrees of scarcity, then my prevailing line of thinking is that it does come back to the stores, and that there's something at play with the importance of the basic line demographic to the retailers' bottom lines.
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Post by WOOOOOO on Feb 18, 2020 16:49:33 GMT -5
I think it's a Target / Walmart problem more than Mattel. Mattel sold their lot to these stores so after that they care less if they ever hit shelves. Target and Walmart though have some stores getting cases weekly while other stores sometimes just a town over have sit with 0 on the inventory for 5 plus months. You would think the retailer would be curious why there are so many empty shelves. Maybe these figures are produced in much lower quantities than we think because it's not like once a series hits Target or Walmart you find that same set in discount stores later. It's just the sets that completely skip the big box stores that find discount shelves. See everyone, including Mattel, says "its Walmart/Targets fault...." but why is it of all toy brands the only thing that can't make shelves is Mattel product? If it was Wally & Target DCs, shouldn't Hasbro, JAKKS Spin master etc be having the same distribution problems? I honestly dont see any of these stores having an abundance of any brands of the toys u mentioned in stock. DC or marvel legends sure they are on the pegs but which ones? How many stores did u walk into and find the new ML Doctor Doom or Thing waiting there? Can u find the others in the set though? Sure they sit just like hardy or cena sit in a case of elite 71 for example. In a few days though they are all gone. Anything that's sought after isnt sitting anywhere.
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 18, 2020 16:53:02 GMT -5
See everyone, including Mattel, says "its Walmart/Targets fault...." but why is it of all toy brands the only thing that can't make shelves is Mattel product? If it was Wally & Target DCs, shouldn't Hasbro, JAKKS Spin master etc be having the same distribution problems? I honestly dont see any of these stores having an abundance of any brands of the toys u mentioned in stock. DC or marvel legends sure they are on the pegs but which ones? How many stores did u walk into and find the new ML Doctor Doom or Thing waiting there? Can u find the others in the set though? Sure they sit just like hardy or cena sit in a case of elite 71 for example. In a few days though they are all gone. Anything that's sought after isnt sitting anywhere. I know it's a limited landscape but I've never not been able to find a Marvel or DC figure at one of the 3 Walmarts in my area. I may even be PJ go to guy with Walmart figures lol....WWE figures have always been hit or miss. One WM last week restocked with 2 cases of elite 66 while another has had empty pegs since December.
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