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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 13:06:10 GMT -5
I love the Royal Rumble. Best event of the year! If WWE just adopted these Rules it would be Perfect! I have posted variations of these in the past and have taken some suggestions and these are the best.
1. The Royal Rumble is invitation only. The McMahon's possess 30 paper invitations that they can distribute how they see fit. If the McMahon's want to put an invitation on the line in a qualification match so be it, if they want to hand an invitation to a celebrity, WWE legend, etc. that's acceptable. No more "declaring" for the RR on Twitter. I wish they wouldn't publicly announce so many as well.
2. Entrant Clock will be visible at all times. This is my biggest pet peeve. What ever the time domain is between entrants (1min, 90sec, 2min) needs to be consistent across the board. Last few years it has gotten way out of hand with time between entrants ranging from 30sec -3min in the same rumble match! My solution is to have a running clock the entire time that expands larger with :10 seconds left. I understand that "spots" need to happen, choreograph better!
3. Superstars must enter the ring within :10 seconds of their respective entrant buzzer. This will add excitement of the Superstar running and joining the melee. Yes even the Undertaker. If the ramp is longer that time can be adjusted but should be consistent with the Superstar joining the RR without unnecessary delay. Have a referee escort the entrant with a :10 sec count much like the :5 second halfcourt count in the NBA.
4. Superstars who exit the ring other than being eliminated have :10 seconds to reenter. Referees and suits must enforce.
5. Superstars are eliminated when they are thrown over the top rope and lose contact with any part of the ring. The "both-feet" bit has jumped the shark. If any part of the body(not gear) is in contact with the ring (ropes, mat,apron,skirt,steps) they can reenter back over the top rope. Lose contact? You're out. Reenter other than over the top tope than the :10 second rule applies.
6. Superstars can not be eliminated by a non legal entity. If a Superstar is removed from the ring other than by a legal participant then they are allowed to reenter any way without unnecessary delay.
What are your thoughts? I challenge the "dude, who cares?" crowd the make a positive contribution to the thread such as give us 1 thing you'd like to see different in the 2020 RR.
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Post by slappy on Jan 19, 2020 13:15:52 GMT -5
100% agree with 5.
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Post by tg11 on Jan 19, 2020 13:20:44 GMT -5
The only rules that should be adopted that I even remotely agree with are #1 and #2 because as a superstar you don't have to immediately enter the ring. Superstars ie. heels take their time coming to the ring and they don't enter right away but they survey the damage and then they get in. There is no rule against that. Just like how if you're a superstar and you exit the ring through the ropes or under the bottom rope to take a breather then there should be no rule against that either.
Superstars if they go over the top rope but both of their feet hit the floor, then they are gone. If one of their feet hits the ground then that means they are not eliminated and can come back in or if they go over and their feet do not hit the floor and they save themselves on the outside, then that should not mean that they are gone.
As for the last rule, being eliminated by someone who is not even in the Royal Rumble Match has happened plenty of times throughout WWE history and there is really no rule against that. Not to mention superstars who were eliminated by a superstar and then come back in to eliminate said superstar who eliminated them just adds to the drama because you set up feuds that way so I am in disagreement.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 13:44:43 GMT -5
The only rules that should be adopted that I even remotely agree with are #1 and #2 because as a superstar you don't have to immediately enter the ring. Superstars ie. heels take their time coming to the ring and they don't enter right away but they survey the damage and then they get in. There is no rule against that. Just like how if you're a superstar and you exit the ring through the ropes or under the bottom rope to take a breather then there should be no rule against that either. Superstars if they go over the top rope but both of their feet hit the floor, then they are gone. If one of their feet hits the ground then that means they are not eliminated and can come back in or if they go over and their feet do not hit the floor and they save themselves on the outside, then that should not mean that they are gone. As for the last rule, being eliminated by someone who is not even in the Royal Rumble Match has happened plenty of times throughout WWE history and there is really no rule against that. Not to mention superstars who were eliminated by a superstar and then come back in to eliminate said superstar who eliminated them just adds to the drama because you set up feuds that way so I am in disagreement. Thank you for remotely agreeing with 1&2. I think you are confused by my post however. I understand these are not the current rules but in fact rules I’d like to see. Thanks for responding! |
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Post by k5 on Jan 19, 2020 14:41:18 GMT -5
I remember that you’ve posted this before and I was essentially one of the only people who agreed with you. but I still do.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 19, 2020 14:44:52 GMT -5
Does #6 apply if an eliminated entrant comes back in and tosses out somebody?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 15:03:52 GMT -5
Does #6 apply if an eliminated entrant comes back in and tosses out somebody? Yes it applies. An eliminated entrant is not a legal entrant regardless of their location. |
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jan 19, 2020 15:48:44 GMT -5
I like the idea of the McMahons having invitations to the Rumble and people having to earn them in qualifying matches. As you've said, they could appear on different telly programmes to hand them to celebs and promote the event.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 19, 2020 17:02:46 GMT -5
I've never been a fan of qualifying matches because the losers have no chance of entering the rumble. I would prefer the big names to announce their entry while the rest is a surprise.
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Post by tenup on Jan 19, 2020 18:59:39 GMT -5
Theres no rhyme or reason to the rules of the Rumble. It's pretty much an extreme rules endurance match. Entrants are random and need no qualifications to be included in the match. Weapons are permitted and there is no limit to how long one can leave the ring under the top rope.
It should be that if an entrant decides to leave the ring on his own accord during the match it counts as a forfeiture of their spot. This would guarantee that each contender would perform without utilizing loopholes in the Rumble Rules. Also why not include pins and submissions as forms of elimination?
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Jan 19, 2020 20:27:28 GMT -5
Did you post this last year? I swear i saw this last year.
#1 I mostly agree with
#2 Fully agree with
#3 Don't care for
#4 I wouldn't add that
#5 Would be good
#6 Yeah... No... Yeah
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Jan 19, 2020 20:41:20 GMT -5
Other than #1, none of these fit the appeal of the Rumble match.
Does it really matter if wrestlers don’t enter in 10 seconds? Does it matter that both feet must touch the floor to be eliminated? Does it matter that a entrant leaves for longer than 10 seconds without going over the top rope? None of it matters.
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Jan 19, 2020 21:18:44 GMT -5
Did you post this last year? I swear i saw this last year. #1 I mostly agree with #2 Fully agree with #3 Don't care for #4 I wouldn't add that #5 Would be good #6 Yeah... No... Yeah i feel like its been the past few years. last year's list of what he thought the rules should be was ridiculous |
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Post by LK3 on Jan 19, 2020 23:45:07 GMT -5
I was expecting this thread to be much worse. I'd be ok with some of those rules, not so much with others.
Specifically #4, I don't think 10 seconds is fair if for example someone not in the match pulls a wrestler out of the ring and attacks them. Surely they won't be back in the ring in 10 seconds.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 20, 2020 4:08:07 GMT -5
Other than #1, none of these fit the appeal of the Rumble match. Does it really matter if wrestlers don’t enter in 10 seconds? Does it matter that both feet must touch the floor to be eliminated? Does it matter that a entrant leaves for longer than 10 seconds without going over the top rope? None of it matters. Yup, that’s the key thing. I can see the appeal in a sort of OCD or control-freak way if someone is playing fantasy booker (“THESE ARE MY RULES AND EVERYONE IS PLAYING BY THEM”), but none of it does anything positive in terms of creating a more fun match - and generally these restrictions would actively make the match a lot less fun. It takes a bunch of options for creative spots away, and the obsession with the clock would just result in the whole production falling apart anyway. |
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Post by MacReady on Jan 20, 2020 4:22:17 GMT -5
The Royal Rumble was created by WWE, the “rules” are whatever WWE sees fit.
Adding some obsessive rigidity because it isn’t up to snuff for YOU personally is asinine.
So no, these shouldn’t be adopted. And to even use “should” as if you’re some authority on rules in a fake match created by a company you have no ties to is ridiculous.
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Post by McBlake on Jan 20, 2020 7:28:46 GMT -5
I don't understand the whole clock obsession. It would screw up everyones timing on spots if it was that strict. I don't mind if the time limit in between entrants isn't EXACTLY consistent if it makes for a better flowing match.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 7:47:37 GMT -5
Theres no rhyme or reason to the rules of the Rumble. It's pretty much an extreme rules endurance match. Entrants are random and need no qualifications to be included in the match. Weapons are permitted and there is no limit to how long one can leave the ring under the top rope. It should be that if an entrant decides to leave the ring on his own accord during the match it counts as a forfeiture of their spot. This would guarantee that each contender would perform without utilizing loopholes in the Rumble Rules. Also why not include pins and submissions as forms of elimination? there are rhymes and reasons to their “rules” but they could be better and give the RR more authenticity. Pins and submissions wouldn’t work bc there is no room for the refs in the ring. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 7:52:55 GMT -5
Other than #1, none of these fit the appeal of the Rumble match. Does it really matter if wrestlers don’t enter in 10 seconds? Does it matter that both feet must touch the floor to be eliminated? Does it matter that a entrant leaves for longer than 10 seconds without going over the top rope? None of it matters. Thanks for responding my good dude. It does matter if Superstars don’t enter in :10 seconds bc by your rationale they never have to enter until the end. Same could be said for leaving and hiding under the ring until the end. Yes heels cheat, this would bring credibility however. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 7:54:48 GMT -5
Did you post this last year? I swear i saw this last year. #1 I mostly agree with #2 Fully agree with #3 Don't care for #4 I wouldn't add that #5 Would be good #6 Yeah... No... Yeah i feel like its been the past few years. last year's list of what he thought the rules should be was ridiculous As I stated in the first post I indeed have posted variations of these in the past, took some of the advice of other board members and made some edits. Thanks for looking and engaging on the thread. I have high hopes for this years RR! |
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