jking1979
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Post by jking1979 on Feb 5, 2020 6:14:39 GMT -5
I think Braun Strowman should atleast had one WWE world title reign. He could have been like Psycho Sid if used the right way. They dropped the ball on him just like many other wrestlers in the past. It looks like Drew McIntyre will be stepping up to the plate now.
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Post by Edgehead on Feb 5, 2020 11:39:32 GMT -5
I feel like that boat has sailed now. Should have struck while he was hot in 2018.
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Post by drifter on Feb 5, 2020 13:46:11 GMT -5
Braun was always one that confused me. After he debuted, a lot of people could tell, he'd eventually break from the Wyatt's and get pushed, because he was a big guy. It happened, and he became one of the rare cases, of a guy WWE picked, that the fans actually got behind. Then instead of pulling the trigger on him, they had him fall flat, every single time.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Feb 5, 2020 13:50:25 GMT -5
This again? Like it was said. Braun should have had a little run with it a couple years ago. The shine came off him a long while ago and the IC title isn't going to put it back on him. It was like when Bray won the World title. It fell flat and not many cared.
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Post by marino13 on Feb 5, 2020 13:55:34 GMT -5
I'll never understand people's obsession with rushing everyone to the top right away. I much prefer when we see someone scratch and claw for years before finally becoming champion. That's why this Drew thing is working so well IMO. We've seen his journey & hardships so it'll mean more to see him finally achieve his dream.
The struggle is half of the fun part. That's why when Bret finally won the title, it mean something. Same with HBK, Benoit, Bryan, & Kofi. Just to name a few. Braun will get his time I'm sure.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Feb 5, 2020 14:03:35 GMT -5
I'll never understand the finality people speak with when discussing Strowman. Even if you go on the basis of him having entered the business older than most, and assume that he retires at forty, you're still left with four years to give him a fair shake. The company is plenty invested in him, and vice versa. The likelihood of him going anywhere is pretty low. Guys before him have floundered throughout the system for years before landing the top prize. Edit: to agree with marino13...the WWE had a nasty habit for years of strapping the rocket to guys way too soon on the back of a modicum of interest from the audience, so much so that even now, there are a handful of former top champions years removed from their last run milling around the mid-card. There's nothing wrong with easing a guy into it, especially someone who was plunked on to the main roster with all of 2 years of experience.
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 5, 2020 14:21:02 GMT -5
I'll never understand people's obsession with rushing everyone to the top right away. I much prefer when we see someone scratch and claw for years before finally becoming champion. That's why this Drew thing is working so well IMO. We've seen his journey & hardships so it'll mean more to see him finally achieve his dream. The struggle is half of the fun part. That's why when Bret finally won the title, it mean something. Same with HBK, Benoit, Bryan, & Kofi. Just to name a few. Braun will get his time I'm sure. I love when they don’t hotshot someone to the very top right away. However, when a guy is booked to tip cars, pull down scafolds, and survive being thrown in a garbage compactor, it’s annoying that a simple spear or F5 is what has been booked to prevent him from winning the big one. They booked him like he was Brock, until he faced Brock and Roman. Then all of a sudden simple moves took down this beast. The booking is what has killed his momentum.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 5, 2020 14:45:58 GMT -5
Winning the WWE Universal Title from Lesnar and dropping it months later would do worse to his career than not winning it at all.
I rather see him destroy everyone that challenges him for the IC Title for a year than have a weak 3 month World or Universal Title reign.
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Post by havoc7179 on Feb 5, 2020 15:25:03 GMT -5
I remember when Jericho debuted and people were upset he didn't actually win the title against Triple H on Raw. They claimed it was over. years go by and multi reigns later...people ate crow.
But this isn't Jericho.
This is a guy booked as a monster. The monster has been tamed. Like Goldberg, the appeal of Braun in the beginning was the fact that he was a force. If goldberg had lost repeatedly when going after the main title, no one would take him seriously. His character would be called into question. Look how directionless WCW had him after he lost to Nash. But for his title reign, he'd have been booked midcard at best.
Braun should have been kept far away from the title picture until and unless WWE was going to pull the trigger.
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Post by Brick Man on Feb 5, 2020 15:55:51 GMT -5
I'll never understand people's obsession with rushing everyone to the top right away. I much prefer when we see someone scratch and claw for years before finally becoming champion. That's why this Drew thing is working so well IMO. We've seen his journey & hardships so it'll mean more to see him finally achieve his dream. The struggle is half of the fun part. That's why when Bret finally won the title, it mean something. Same with HBK, Benoit, Bryan, & Kofi. Just to name a few. Braun will get his time I'm sure. I agree with that for the most part! Like I really enjoy seeing a character evolve and seeing a superstar slowly but surely make it to the main event scene. Like someone like Edge! We see him debut, go through the tag title scene, go through the mid-card title scene, work his way up to fighting main eventers, to finally winning the World Title. I love seeing an evolution like that! However in Braun's case, I feel like he is one that should have won it already. I just feel like he will never come close to being as hot as he once was. And with him being so big, you have to wonder how long someone like him will be wrestling. Could have back problems and knee problems more frequent than a smaller wrestler. So for me, I would have given Braun a run at the top. See just how over he could get. But I feel like, not only have they dropped the ball with him, they have geeked him out too many times. Like losing/looking bad too many times. Like him just walking away from The Undertaker, backing down. I wasn't the biggest fan of that.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 5, 2020 15:56:27 GMT -5
Drew has waited 11 years and even had a break in between runs and not to mention the character changes.
Strowman has plenty of time.
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Post by jking1979 on Feb 5, 2020 16:04:57 GMT -5
I believe Braun Strowman could be special. Drew M. has alot of talent and does deserve his opportunity. I just don't understand WWE decisions sometimes.
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Post by FLUX on Feb 5, 2020 17:11:53 GMT -5
Braun Strowman's booking is a lot like Tetsuya Naito's booking in NJPW.
For a long time, we were forcefed someone else down our throats. (Roman Reigns in WWE, Kazuchika Okada in NJPW). They never pulled the trigger, even at their hottest point. (Summerslam 2017 arguably for Braun, Wrestle Kingdom 12 for Naito).
And if they do pull the trigger with Braun? Much like Naito at this year's Wrestle Kingdom, it'll be about 2-3 years too late.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 7, 2020 19:17:22 GMT -5
He’ll be World Champ eventually.
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Post by K5 on Feb 8, 2020 0:53:14 GMT -5
I was never huge on him but he sure was over for a good chunk of time.
I don’t know if a championship run was required, but he’s certainly been mishandled a great deal throughout the years. his feud with Kevin Owens was one of the strangest things I’ve seen in WWE in the last while.
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 8, 2020 11:31:13 GMT -5
I think Vince sees Braun like Big Show. He’s a spectacle in and of hisself. Meaning he doesn’t have to put a title on him because people view Braun in a certain way despite his wins and loses. He’s right as far as the casual audience goes, people who turn in once a year for Mania, or with people who take their kids to live events.
If I were to guess, Braun got the IC Title because he is a big deal in Saudi, and this also sets the belt up for being high profile in whatever gimmick match Braun works at Mania. So the belt on Braun is a vehicle for marketing, and doesn’t tie up either major title. Which is kind of perfect for him since WWE goes through spurts of totally not caring about that strap.
Big Show held the WWE title for a cup of coffee twice. His WHC run was essentially the same situation, at the same time of year. Last couple months to round out the year where nothing outside of SvS is going on. So I expect Braun to get that kind of run at some point. More so as a thank you than something WWE feels like they need to do.
I also agree with “what’s the rush.” He’s already had his big over period and they didn’t pull the trigger. Now he’s just monster guy over who could conceivably win the title at any given time and it’d be believable. Sure the reactions probably won’t be what they would have been but they’ll still be there if it happens. I think they did a great job holding back on Drew and now look at how well people are responding. Drew could have won the title as a heel against face Rollins, but that would have been a mistake in retrospect.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Feb 8, 2020 13:02:12 GMT -5
I remember when Jericho debuted and people were upset he didn't actually win the title against Triple H on Raw. They claimed it was over. years go by and multi reigns later...people ate crow. To be fair, if Jericho had won it that night, maybe he’d have cememeted himself as a top guy, rather than an upper midcard guy who bounces up to main event occasionally.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Feb 10, 2020 17:41:29 GMT -5
I'm inclined to agree about not hotshotting guys to the top immediately, however Strowman was different. Strowman was an attraction. He was like Big John Studd with athleticism, and his personality as a monster who couldn't be stopped lent itself perfectly to a quick rise and title reign. He should've beaten Brock with his MITB for the belt. Yeah I'm sure people would've gotten sick of him as a face, but he was H-O-T-T hot at the time. EVERYONE wanted to see him win, even more than they wanted Seth. His reign would've been like Goldberg's or Brock's, one that really makes you think "who will actually beat this guy?" Aside from the Fiend they really don't have anyone else like that today.
But the ship has sailed. Braun is a special kind of superstar. Attractions become less special every time you see them, and now he's been around for about 5 years, only now winning his first singles title. He's still popular, and could easily be pushed back to the main event, but he's been diminished in the eyes of the fickle fickle fickle audience. Worst of all he's been booked nearly to Big Show oblivion with quick, senseless heel and face turns. A title win for him will never mean anything close to what it once did, and at this point is pointless barring several top level guys becoming injured at once.
And this is coming from a big Braun fan.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 10, 2020 18:47:12 GMT -5
I remember when Jericho debuted and people were upset he didn't actually win the title against Triple H on Raw. They claimed it was over. years go by and multi reigns later...people ate crow. To be fair, if Jericho had won it that night, maybe he’d have cememeted himself as a top guy, rather than an upper midcard guy who bounces up to main event occasionally. Would have been one of the best moments ever... 😫 also what if Jericho did end up in the main event of WM2000, would have made em a legit top guy.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Feb 10, 2020 18:52:29 GMT -5
Remember how badly Vince always booked the Big Show? It'll be the same for Braun.
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