Mclovin
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This Forum's Resident Future WWE Champion, Not Changing This Until It Happens.
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Post by Mclovin on Feb 22, 2020 5:56:40 GMT -5
YES! Now my era is the one WWE is giving nostalgia shows.
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Retrospect
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Post by Retrospect on Feb 22, 2020 14:36:13 GMT -5
Monday is the episode on Evolution. Can’t wait to see what they have to say about it. They were one of my favorite parts of RA era.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Feb 24, 2020 2:39:32 GMT -5
Hopefully we can also get coverage on... Edge's Heel run, Jericho's return and program into Shawn, Jeff Hardy, Rise of Batista, Orton as Legend Killer and Viper The transition into the PG Era,
So far I have really enjoyed the content
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Post by greenjack1992 on Feb 24, 2020 14:32:43 GMT -5
Surely they need to do an episode on the women: Trish and Lita, Victoria, Molly Holly <- it was the time that gave rise to the Women's Evolution we had recently.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Feb 24, 2020 15:31:36 GMT -5
Haven’t watched the most recent episode yet but there’s a section on WWE Shop dedicated to “Ruthless Aggression” shop.wwe.com/ruthless-aggression/Not gonna lie but it’s a pretty crap selection considering how amazing some of the shirts were during that era. 100% sure The Rock T-shirt’s shown weren’t even worn during the RA era either.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 24, 2020 15:38:52 GMT -5
Just watched the Evolution portion of this documentary on the WWE Network. Pretty cool, it was the one part of this documentary I was excited to see and it did not disappoint.
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Post by marino13 on Feb 24, 2020 18:05:30 GMT -5
Evolution episode was fantastic. Good stuff. Glad Jindrak was there to talk about his missed opportunity.
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JP
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Post by JP on Feb 24, 2020 19:21:00 GMT -5
Just got done watching Episode 3 - it was really cool to see Jindrak talk in detail about what went wrong for him there.
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Edgehead
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Post by Edgehead on Feb 25, 2020 9:13:37 GMT -5
I really kinda dislike how they make it sound the like Reign of Terror wasn't a negative thing, but a positive one. It wasn't.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Feb 25, 2020 12:33:44 GMT -5
I've been itching to jump back onto the Network for the first time in 4 years (can't believe I quit WWE 4 years ago) to go back through this era. This seals it for me.
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Post by Brick Man on Feb 25, 2020 16:51:34 GMT -5
I liked the Evolution one! I do think it's funny how much this entire series has put HHH over. From Prichard saying no one could touch HHH as the top guy, to Prichard saying HHH was the top guy but the ratings falling had nothing to do with him, to them saying HHH was like the most cheered person ever against Cena, to them saying "it all started with an idea from a visionary" when discussing Evolution, to them saying how Evolution were supposed to be bad guys but everyone in the crowd loved them. I have enjoyed all of these docs, but the revisionist history on some of these have been laughable. Especially because this is the era I grew up on and can remember it wasn't like how they said.
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 25, 2020 20:40:17 GMT -5
Seeing Randy be so immature was pretty funny. But I do agree with most people in the fact that Evolution was very well received. I remember being tired or seeing Evolution especially in 2004-05 because it dragged on too long.
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Post by hbkjason on Feb 26, 2020 6:51:20 GMT -5
I am loving this series so far, a great trip down memory lane. Is there any other episodes planned?
I would love to see a series based on the Golden Era and the New Generation too!
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JP
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Post by JP on Feb 26, 2020 10:15:42 GMT -5
I am loving this series so far, a great trip down memory lane. Is there any other episodes planned? I would love to see a series based on the Golden Era and the New Generation too! New Gen would be really interesting to see - if it's honest. If they try to pass 1995 off as anything other than what it was, nobody will find it credible.
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 26, 2020 12:30:53 GMT -5
I liked the Evolution one! I do think it's funny how much this entire series has put HHH over. From Prichard saying no one could touch HHH as the top guy, to Prichard saying HHH was the top guy but the ratings falling had nothing to do with him, to them saying HHH was like the most cheered person ever against Cena, to them saying "it all started with an idea from a visionary" when discussing Evolution, to them saying how Evolution were supposed to be bad guys but everyone in the crowd loved them. I have enjoyed all of these docs, but the revisionist history on some of these have been laughable. Especially because this is the era I grew up on and can remember it wasn't like how they said. This is spot on. Some cool B-roll footage but the revisionist stuff is crazy, even for the WWE. 1. They speak like HHH surpassed Austin and Rock levels of popularity, yet say the ratings decline had nothing to do with him. They also forgot to mention that outside of his matches with HBK and Benoit that his matches were piss poor to average at best during that time (and no, it wasn’t just his opponents). 2. The crowd despised Evolution. They were great heels, but they were never cheered as the “cool” heels like the nWo and DX were. Until Batista started getting crowd support in the fall of 2004 all four of them were constantly booed out of the building while in the group (outside of the Steiner matches). 3. Nobody wanted a face Orton at the time, yet they act like it was all on him being immature yet ignore the fact that it was a terrible decision that was out of nowhere. Orton was a heel up until Summer Slam 2004 with no hints of a face turn what so ever. Evolution then turns on him, and fans are suppose to cheer the guy who got beat up by his buddies but a week earlier was insulting us? Him loosing the title a month later also killed any little momentum he still had at that point. Cool documentary but very one-sided. Anyone else feel bad for Jindrak? Whether it was his attitude or not, Vince seemed to thrust him into a situation that HHH and Flair didn’t want him in. Hunter seemed dead set on Batista being the 4th man (the right decision), but the way he handled the whole Jindrak thing was bad. He knew he had a bad attitude, but rather than have a honest talk with him like he did with Orton, he just had Vince tell him he was out. I also wonder how things would have changed had they accepted him? Would Evolution have been a 5 man group? How would that have affected Orton and Batista?
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Feb 26, 2020 17:38:37 GMT -5
Touching on the Cena episode, it really makes you wonder where things would have went had Cena been let go before finding his Rapping gimmick. Always was surprised Jindrak didn’t become a star even without Evolution. Guy had a good look for the time and it sounds like Vince was behind him. The evolution episode made it seem like hunter really stuck it to Jindrak and that spelled his downfall.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Feb 26, 2020 17:48:07 GMT -5
It won't happen... But i really hope they do something to acknowledge that Benoit was a key part of the RA Era.
It's not as surprising anymore, but in the Evolution episode, they used a clip of Orton hitting the RKO at Summerslam, in which you get a full body shot of Chris and a glance of his face.
I'm not saying they should make a whole episode of him (though i wouldn't be against it) But even if they just include him in a small video package with the theme of 'These were the top stars of the RA Era' and have him walking down the ramp, or locking in the Crossface, it'd be something to say he was there and was a key part.
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 26, 2020 22:54:27 GMT -5
Touching on the Cena episode, it really makes you wonder where things would have went had Cena been let go before finding his Rapping gimmick. Always was surprised Jindrak didn’t become a star even without Evolution. Guy had a good look for the time and it sounds like Vince was behind him. The evolution episode made it seem like hunter really stuck it to Jindrak and that spelled his downfall. It did seem like Hunter had it out for Jindrak. Either he just plain didn’t like him (which would make little sense considering he put up with Orton’s antics), or Mark did or said something that just turned Hunter against him. Jindrak did get another chance on SD as apart of Team Angle 2.0, but I think his lack of charisma and being teamed with Luther Reigns did him no favors in addition to his bad attitude. Where as Orton had two top guys backing him up, Jindrak didn’t have anyone backing him to overlook his bad attitude.
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 27, 2020 11:18:27 GMT -5
Touching on the Cena episode, it really makes you wonder where things would have went had Cena been let go before finding his Rapping gimmick. Always was surprised Jindrak didn’t become a star even without Evolution. Guy had a good look for the time and it sounds like Vince was behind him. The evolution episode made it seem like hunter really stuck it to Jindrak and that spelled his downfall. It did seem like Hunter had it out for Jindrak. Either he just plain didn’t like him (which would make little sense considering he put up with Orton’s antics), or Mark did or said something that just turned Hunter against him. Jindrak did get another chance on SD as apart of Team Angle 2.0, but I think his lack of charisma and being teamed with Luther Reigns did him no favors in addition to his bad attitude. Where as Orton had two top guys backing him up, Jindrak didn’t have anyone backing him to overlook his bad attitude. What I got from it (knowing full well that this is the homogenized for consumption version of the story and that anything detrimental to the parties meant to shine would be scrubbed right out) is that Orton, at least initially within the bubble of Evolution, was able to set "himself" aside and get what he was meant to get out of being paired with the likes of Hunter and Flair. I don't know how much validity to it there is, but I can totally understand, from experience, the notion of an added individual being detrimental to one's ability to shut off and focus on the task at hand. I've got at least one lifelong friend who I couldn't work with in school or even as adults...we'd get nothing done.
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Feb 27, 2020 11:41:32 GMT -5
I'm interested
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