allkayfabe
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Post by allkayfabe on Feb 15, 2020 1:07:51 GMT -5
I can understand Ringside charging a few dollars above retail for figures because they are not the size of stores like Walmart and Target. What I can't understand is them charging double (not including shipping) for figures. Aren't they supposed to be the anti-scalper resource? Why are Elite 71 Adam Cole and Drew McIntyre $39 (without shipping)?
Can someone explain why people scalping figures on bidding sites is terrible, but Ringside doing the same thing gets a pass?
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Feb 15, 2020 1:41:17 GMT -5
Probably because they're in high demand but low in quantity.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Feb 15, 2020 1:46:49 GMT -5
Asking why a for-profit capitalistic enterprise is utilizing supply-and-demand theory to earn the monies?
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Feb 15, 2020 1:48:27 GMT -5
Because capitalism
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Post by mcfclee on Feb 15, 2020 2:06:42 GMT -5
I’ve cut back on a lot of pre orders because of it. That said if they got the collectors series and exclusive lines I’d still rather this than eBay.
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Post by originalniceguy on Feb 15, 2020 2:40:50 GMT -5
This is speculation but maybe they don't order in the same quantities as the big retail stores, they also receive the newest lines first so that's got to drive up their costs (and so the price).
My main reason for giving them a pass is that I have never received an item from them in less than mint condition, not even a crease... And that's after travelling all the way to the UK.
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Post by LK3 on Feb 15, 2020 2:46:57 GMT -5
In my opinion the figures they receive from Mattel shouldn’t surpass the pre-order price, they get them early so that we can get them early at a higher cost, but they can run their business however they see fit. And I’ve never thought of them as an anti-scalper resource. I think of them as the biggest online retailer of WWE figures, which they are.
But as mentioned previously these particular figures are likely low in stock, and they will at times raise prices of figures that are low in stock with high demand. I think E73 Aleister Black is also $39.99 currently. Roddy Strong and Buddy Murphy began increasing when they were in demand as well. Buddy is still high, but Strong is down to $24.99. It is what it is. They also have to deal with all the figures they end up selling for dirt cheap. It kind of evens out a bit for them and for us. Even some of the latest figures are getting cheaper, look at the majority of E72 and 73. Even 74 is has gone down a bit.
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marklud
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Post by marklud on Feb 15, 2020 3:10:49 GMT -5
This happens when they're running low on stock. It may be annoying but the reality is by the time it reaches that point you've almost always had a ton of time to get it at a lesser price.
Elites are generally up for presale for like 2 months before RSC actually gets them. I bought mine when it went up for presale -- looked at my receipt and Cole was $27, minus 10 percent with any of the available coupon codes, so it was basically $24 plus tax and shipping -- only $4 more than retail (and to get it 2 months earlier than it would ever hit retail).
Looking back, I preordered Cole on July 20 and got him on Sept. 10. So he's been available to buy for seven months now. Much of that time was for the lower price.
My advice: On the figs you really want, get in on the preorder. When you factor in all the gas money/time/hassle you'll spend getting them, you're guaranteed to have them shipped right to your door. It's so worth it.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Feb 15, 2020 3:42:44 GMT -5
Scalpers
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Post by disorder on Feb 15, 2020 7:28:20 GMT -5
I honestly think they hold back some figures and raise the prices when the demand is higher. Which Is a crapty thing to do
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Feb 15, 2020 7:46:03 GMT -5
They have bills to pay, mouths to feed. When you really think about it, nothing in this world is free.
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Post by dollarbill04 on Feb 15, 2020 7:53:43 GMT -5
I honestly think they hold back some figures and raise the prices when the demand is higher. Which Is a crapty thing to do Why?
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Post by PJ on Feb 15, 2020 8:02:13 GMT -5
Because they are a specialty store and not a mass retailer where toy sales make up a tiny portion of their sales. They need to be able to pay their employees and cost of running the business. Then they pay extra to have their first shipment sent to them next day air so that has to all be factored into the cost of what they charge. And those two figures are probably the only two figures anyone is ordering from the set so all the others will end up below retail during their sales. If they don’t change more for the figures people are cherry-picking they wouldn’t still be in business. I know in the past if I preordered a whole set and used the wfigs discount code even with shipping it cost me maybe $5-$10 more than if I found and bought the set at retail. I did that for all the Legends waves. So that was worth it to me to get them a month or so before they hit my area. Now I just use them to preorder the few figures I really want and don’t want to wait to find in stores. Probably because they're in high demand but low in quantity. Doesn't that logic apply to "scalpers" on other sites? No because for the most part RSC get their product from the manufacturers. (Unless it store exclusives they eventually get and put on their site) They don’t go to all the area stores by them and purchase all the popular figures of every set like T0y W!z. Nor do they dump all their peg warmers at the same retailers once a year.
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Post by mrhoss on Feb 15, 2020 8:26:41 GMT -5
Nobody complains when RSC has to blow out the majority of figures at rock bottom prices.
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Post by JP on Feb 15, 2020 8:50:10 GMT -5
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Post by WOOOOOO on Feb 15, 2020 8:53:31 GMT -5
The original post has some merit for sure because it's the same thing that people complain out every day with people reselling at higher prices. However if you use the discount code and buy full set things level out. If u just want the single figure it's sometimes more than your "scalper" rate on secondary sites. Cant fault them for making money they do the same thing everyone else does when reselling.
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Post by PVA on Feb 15, 2020 9:44:04 GMT -5
Not defending scalpers or anything but....E71? You’ve had plenty of time to pick those up for a good price.
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Post by Chip on Feb 15, 2020 11:09:23 GMT -5
When stock is low on popular figures they will raise the price to make a little more before they sell out and stay in line with ALL secondary market sellers prices on the same items.
Not to mention if everyone on ebay is selling Adam Cole for $40 and RSC is selling him for $26, people are just going to buy him on RSC and re-sell on eBay. its really not that difficult to understand.
they do it with their exclusives as well. at least the real popular ones. it makes perfect business sense. and its literally the 100% opposite of "scalping". most other sites are WAAAAY worse than RSC when it comes to increasing prices on popular figures.
Ringside is selling the Undisputed Era 3 pack for $68 right now which is literally the cheapest option for buying that anywhere. at one point on Walmart's site there was another overpriced, sh*tty online toy seller than was selling it for $114
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Post by alabamaslammer64 on Feb 15, 2020 11:19:55 GMT -5
When stock is low on popular figures they will raise the price to make a little more before they sell out and stay in line with ALL secondary market sellers prices on the same items. Not to mention if everyone on ebay is selling Adam Cole for $40 and RSC is selling him for $26, people are just going to buy him on RSC and re-sell on eBay. its really not that difficult to understand. they do it with their exclusives as well. at least the real popular ones. it makes perfect business sense. and its literally the 100% opposite of "scalping". most other sites are WAAAAY worse than RSC when it comes to increasing prices on popular figures. Ringside is selling the Undisputed Era 3 pack for $68 right now which is literally the cheapest option for buying that anywhere. at one point on Walmart's site there was another overpriced, sh*tty online toy seller than was selling it for $114 So you’re saying people will buy a figure on RSC for $26 plus add shipping which comes out to about $35ish just to resale on eBay for a $5 profit?
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Post by Chip on Feb 15, 2020 11:25:14 GMT -5
When stock is low on popular figures they will raise the price to make a little more before they sell out and stay in line with ALL secondary market sellers prices on the same items. Not to mention if everyone on ebay is selling Adam Cole for $40 and RSC is selling him for $26, people are just going to buy him on RSC and re-sell on eBay. its really not that difficult to understand. they do it with their exclusives as well. at least the real popular ones. it makes perfect business sense. and its literally the 100% opposite of "scalping". most other sites are WAAAAY worse than RSC when it comes to increasing prices on popular figures. Ringside is selling the Undisputed Era 3 pack for $68 right now which is literally the cheapest option for buying that anywhere. at one point on Walmart's site there was another overpriced, sh*tty online toy seller than was selling it for $114 So you’re saying people will buy a figure on RSC for $26 plus add shipping which comes out to about $35ish just to resale on eBay for a $5 profit? Yes. Absolutely they would. Right now if Cole was $26, you could buy 2 of him at that price and get free shipping. That's not a $5 profit, that's a $10 profit, and so on. funny how nobody complains when Ringside is selling their Matt Hardy exclusive for $7.99 when they probably paid like $7.00 cost for each of them.
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