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Post by omartheterror on Feb 21, 2020 15:50:56 GMT -5
I'd genuinely like to know who Mattel thinks the audience is for this line, and how the existing lineup selection fits with that model. At $30, you're looking pretty exclusively at the adult collector market, and even then it probably needs to be something high demand or special. HHH and Warrior fit that bill. HBK, Finn, and Hart have been solid figures. But female elites struggle to sell at $30. And Nakamura has been a consistent peg warmer since his first two figures. Yet they're easy home runs like Savage, Sting, etc. I don't think it's purely coincidental that Mattel's lineup choices are constantly crapped on, and then lineups magically get cancelled after 2-3 waves. 100%. I don’t see how it’s sustainable.
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Post by legendsguy on Feb 21, 2020 15:57:01 GMT -5
the theory still holds true … anything above $25 retail never does well. its no longer a coincidence. its now a fact. its not the figures as much as it is the price point. always has been.
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Post by dylan on Feb 21, 2020 15:59:23 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I was hoping an ultimate edition Cena would be around 06-08 so I'm not complaining. Just wish we'd get an elite with the green shorts eventually l
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Post by buddyboy101 on Feb 21, 2020 16:02:18 GMT -5
Roster mistakes aside, the sheer execution has been pretty shoddy. So even if they had the rights to slam-dunks like Hogan, I can somehow count on a horrible scan or lackluster product. This really should be a line that focuses on legends, and with killer execution.
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Post by GremlinPrince on Feb 21, 2020 16:05:27 GMT -5
I was really looking forward to UE5.
To say I'm underwhelmed is an understatement.
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Post by omartheterror on Feb 21, 2020 16:14:15 GMT -5
I think only one of these at a time and only the megastars. And someone who would actually benefit from more accessories/multiple heads. So not even Austin in this line imo. Or probably Rock. Sorry Ronda. Sorry Shinsuke. Sorry HHH. Etc
Warrior fits perfectly. Savage obviously. Flair with maybe two robes. Taker. Kane could work in this line. Hbk not a bad choice but could have been better executed.
Someone mentioned Asuka. Come on. No one is paying $30 for Asuka except for some die hards or collectors who have to buy absolutely every figure.
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Post by Captain McKay on Feb 21, 2020 16:14:35 GMT -5
Cena looks great. I'm in.
I guess I can see why people aren't into these figures, but the ones I have, I really like.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Feb 21, 2020 16:30:29 GMT -5
6 series now so far and nothing for me Right?! I don't care about modern folks, so I'll exclude them, but here's how Mattel has managed to destroy yet another legends line: - Ultimate Warrior - meh not a bad start, but chipped paint scan was pretty crummy and WM12 would have been a better starting point instead of WCW
- Bret Hart - dear Lord, that hair (and scan) saved me $30
- HHH - Ok, decent scan, but not a fan of that attire
- HBK - Some of the worst HBK scans to date!
And now they have abandoned legends from the line?! Incredible. Cena is a legend at this point, he’s not a full time guy and hasn’t been for years
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Post by wachito479 on Feb 21, 2020 16:47:59 GMT -5
Ughhhh.... I understand Cena. But for all who assumed it was Flair ( myself included), its a bummer.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Feb 21, 2020 17:10:58 GMT -5
Right?! I don't care about modern folks, so I'll exclude them, but here's how Mattel has managed to destroy yet another legends line: - Ultimate Warrior - meh not a bad start, but chipped paint scan was pretty crummy and WM12 would have been a better starting point instead of WCW
- Bret Hart - dear Lord, that hair (and scan) saved me $30
- HHH - Ok, decent scan, but not a fan of that attire
- HBK - Some of the worst HBK scans to date!
And now they have abandoned legends from the line?! Incredible. Cena is a legend at this point, he’s not a full time guy and hasn’t been for years bUT hEs nOT frOm mY eRa
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Feb 21, 2020 17:12:31 GMT -5
Cena is a legend at this point, he’s not a full time guy and hasn’t been for years bUT hEs nOT frOm mY eRa Legends only collectors have really upped their level of pretentiousness the past 3 years js
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Post by thegreatbambini on Feb 21, 2020 17:18:14 GMT -5
6 series now so far and nothing for me Right?! I don't care about modern folks, so I'll exclude them, but here's how Mattel has managed to destroy yet another legends line: - Ultimate Warrior - meh not a bad start, but chipped paint scan was pretty crummy and WM12 would have been a better starting point instead of WCW
- Bret Hart - dear Lord, that hair (and scan) saved me $30
- HHH - Ok, decent scan, but not a fan of that attire
- HBK - Some of the worst HBK scans to date!
And now they have abandoned legends from the line?! Incredible. I thought the Hitman's face looked awful when I found him on pegs.
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Post by LK3 on Feb 21, 2020 17:18:53 GMT -5
Legends only collectors have really upped their level of pretentiousness the past 3 years js I get that they want their guys, but they also should understand that as more time passes the larger the pool becomes for legends and flashbacks in regards to both talent and era. If it was up to me I probably wouldn’t choose Cena as the “legends” choice for UE, but it’s certainly a flashback regardless.
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Post by rkmo: At-Risk Teenage Whale on Feb 21, 2020 17:24:12 GMT -5
I'll look to get a MOC pair, definitely a second Lynch. Images have to be seen to commit one way or the other on Johnny Boy. Feel for the old schoolers.
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Post by Brick Man on Feb 21, 2020 17:26:29 GMT -5
Cena looks great! Actually the era/time-frame I would want too!
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Feb 21, 2020 17:29:44 GMT -5
As mentioned in the Toy Fair thread, it was supposed to be Flair but his contract expired and Cena was pushed forward. So blame WWE & Ric Flair (and Mattel for not realizing his contract was running down)
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Post by marino13 on Feb 21, 2020 17:38:35 GMT -5
I have a few Ultimate Edition figures. (Ronda, Nakamura, Bret, HBK, Triple H, Brock, and just ordered Cena) I think the line has pros and cons.
Personally I like the yelling HBK scan. Saw people bashing it, but I think it's pretty spot on. The smiling one is okay. Wish one had the hair down. And the gear selection could have been better.
To be honest, I was meh on the Triple H scans. Love the gear though. I added a DX shirt though.
Bret is fantastic IMO. Same for Nakamura. No complaints on either.
Ronda is perfect. I especially like how he top hides the articulation.
I like everything about Brock except the screaming face. They had better options.
The only thing I am not a fan of is the gap in the torso and abdomen. Guys like Warrior, Cena, & Triple H especially have it. And I'm not sure what I think of the double jointed elbows yet. Guys with jackets or elbow pads look fine. But HBK's bothered me for some reason.
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Post by stc13 on Feb 21, 2020 17:52:10 GMT -5
As mentioned in the Toy Fair thread, it was supposed to be Flair but his contract expired and Cena was pushed forward. So blame WWE & Ric Flair (and Mattel for not realizing his contract was running down)That's where the fault lies, imo. They easily could have put the figure in the HHH or HBK (probably easiest, since Brock is super low deco) wave and been in the clear. Those guys are WWE lifers, while Flair has a pretty long record of chasing the biggest paycheck he can get. Hopefully things get worked out and the figure gets released at some point.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 21, 2020 17:53:18 GMT -5
I thought the first Ronda rousey in wrestling gear was a great choice for series 1 🤷♂️
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Post by PJ on Feb 21, 2020 18:14:24 GMT -5
Nakamura is the only one that’s warmed at the 5 Targets around here. Although one of my area Targets had a Rousey mysteriously pop up on the pegs this week as well as a few more Nakamura than usual. Every other figure from series 1-3 has moved from the pegs within a week.
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