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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Mar 4, 2020 17:21:27 GMT -5
When is that Impact anniversary thing again? The TNA branded PPV? April 3. |
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Post by greenjack1992 on Mar 4, 2020 18:17:41 GMT -5
I hope he does something new as the Exalted One and doesn't just turn the Dark Order into a Broken Universe thing. I loved the Broken Universe in TNA but it's behind him now and the Broken thing wouldn't fit with Dark Order.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Mar 5, 2020 2:20:45 GMT -5
Shouldnt Jeff's contract be expired as well since they signed at the same time? Or did they tack on extra months because of his injuries and arrests? They did that bulls**t thing where they added time to his contract. Seems like it should be illegal to do to an independent contractor, but I don't know the language of the contract. It's not really "bulls**t". When they sign these contracts, they agree to perform/remain active for the duration of the contract. If an injury or other factor halts that performing status, resulting in them NOT being able to honour that agreement, WWE has every right to add that missing time onto the end of the contract, so they can honour that agreement. Obviously you can't predict injuries but that's just the nature of wrestling. |
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Mar 5, 2020 6:31:40 GMT -5
They did that bulls**t thing where they added time to his contract. Seems like it should be illegal to do to an independent contractor, but I don't know the language of the contract. It's not really "bulls**t". When they sign these contracts, they agree to perform/remain active for the duration of the contract. If an injury or other factor halts that performing status, resulting in them NOT being able to honour that agreement, WWE has every right to add that missing time onto the end of the contract, so they can honour that agreement. Obviously you can't predict injuries but that's just the nature of wrestling. Yup. Not to mention you’re still getting paid downside money while you’re out injured. |
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Post by marino13 on Mar 5, 2020 10:16:30 GMT -5
Shouldnt Jeff's contract be expired as well since they signed at the same time? Or did they tack on extra months because of his injuries and arrests? They did that bulls**t thing where they added time to his contract. Seems like it should be illegal to do to an independent contractor, but I don't know the language of the contract. Employers have rights too though. If they give you 5 million for 3 years, and you're only healthy for a year and a half, why shouldn't talent be legally obligated to fulfill their part of the agreement? It's either WWE adds on time on or the talent is forced to pay them back. And I'm pretty sure none of them would want to do that. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 5, 2020 10:41:55 GMT -5
They did that bulls**t thing where they added time to his contract. Seems like it should be illegal to do to an independent contractor, but I don't know the language of the contract. Employers have rights too though. If they give you 5 million for 3 years, and you're only healthy for a year and a half, why shouldn't talent be legally obligated to fulfill their part of the agreement? It's either WWE adds on time on or the talent is forced to pay them back. And I'm pretty sure none of them would want to do that. I totally get that, that's why I said I'm not quite sure what the language of the contract is. Most of the time WWE adds that time on out of spite when there's word that talent wants out and they have no plans on using them. That's what I think is bs. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 5, 2020 10:43:11 GMT -5
They did that bulls**t thing where they added time to his contract. Seems like it should be illegal to do to an independent contractor, but I don't know the language of the contract. It's not really "bulls**t". When they sign these contracts, they agree to perform/remain active for the duration of the contract. If an injury or other factor halts that performing status, resulting in them NOT being able to honour that agreement, WWE has every right to add that missing time onto the end of the contract, so they can honour that agreement. Obviously you can't predict injuries but that's just the nature of wrestling. They did the same thing to Harper. They had no intension of using him for anything, they just wanted to keep him under contract to screw with him and other places he might work. |
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Post by warriorlynx on Mar 5, 2020 11:56:59 GMT -5
Ok so it looks like Matt Hardy is going to be at the Big Event so it means he has NOT signed with AEW (which their stars aren't supposed to be there). My guess is he is looking for a better deal with WWE, which is why he released the video with the Bucks who are Young....
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Mar 5, 2020 12:24:06 GMT -5
It's not really "bulls**t". When they sign these contracts, they agree to perform/remain active for the duration of the contract. If an injury or other factor halts that performing status, resulting in them NOT being able to honour that agreement, WWE has every right to add that missing time onto the end of the contract, so they can honour that agreement. Obviously you can't predict injuries but that's just the nature of wrestling. They did the same thing to Harper. They had no intension of using him for anything, they just wanted to keep him under contract to screw with him and other places he might work. Or, y’know, the WWE deals with talent, and wanted to send a clear message that they wouldn’t tolerate another Goldust incident. I’ll never say their management are remotely close to sainthood, but they still run a business. Also, how did Harper interact with management and creative? I have no idea, and I bet you don’t either. The boys all seemed to like him, which is fine, but what if he fought the writers unprofessionally on the regular? Then, out of the blue, posts his desire to leave on social media without actually getting a response from HR or whomever? Manage people for a company and be responsible for their wellbeing as well as making sure your company makes money so it doesn’t go out of business, and suddenly things aren’t as black and white as Vince sitting in his ivory tower pondering which wrestler’s life to screw with. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 5, 2020 14:31:34 GMT -5
They did the same thing to Harper. They had no intension of using him for anything, they just wanted to keep him under contract to screw with him and other places he might work. Or, y’know, the WWE deals with talent, and wanted to send a clear message that they wouldn’t tolerate another Goldust incident. I’ll never say their management are remotely close to sainthood, but they still run a business. Also, how did Harper interact with management and creative? I have no idea, and I bet you don’t either. The boys all seemed to like him, which is fine, but what if he fought the writers unprofessionally on the regular? Then, out of the blue, posts his desire to leave on social media without actually getting a response from HR or whomever? Manage people for a company and be responsible for their wellbeing as well as making sure your company makes money so it doesn’t go out of business, and suddenly things aren’t as black and white as Vince sitting in his ivory tower pondering which wrestler’s life to screw with. I get where you're coming from, and ultimately it comes down to the contract that they agree to. I don't think it's ok to tac on time like they do, but if that language is in their contract then so be it. Adding time to someone's contract and then never using them to play keep away is spiteful. They don't have to do it. |
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Post by rowdy1971 on Mar 5, 2020 15:12:21 GMT -5
I think Matt will eventually go with AEW but not to what everyone expects. I think the "Dark Order" leader will be Al Snow.
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Post by Brick Man on Mar 5, 2020 15:45:36 GMT -5
I think Matt will eventually go with AEW but not to what everyone expects. I think the "Dark Order" leader will be Al Snow. I agree. Especially with the Bucks showing up on his YouTube show, I can't imagine he's the Exalted One. I feel like they would have saved that. I still think the Exalted One is Brodie Lee/Luke Harper. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 5, 2020 16:03:23 GMT -5
Calling my shot, Jimmy Jacobs will be the exalted one.
If Matt Hardy isn't the faction leader, I don't know what his place is on that roster. He's creative enough to come up with something, but if he's not part of a faction I think he'd stick out like a sore thumb.
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Post by Brick Man on Mar 5, 2020 16:10:11 GMT -5
Calling my shot, Jimmy Jacobs will be the exalted one.If Matt Hardy isn't the faction leader, I don't know what his place is on that roster. He's creative enough to come up with something, but if he's not part of a faction I think he'd stick out like a sore thumb. That would be a fun choice! |
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Post by Scott! on Mar 5, 2020 18:11:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure he is a good fit with AEW and what they are doing at the monent, this isnt a slight at Matt but AEW need to avoid doing the whole TNA WWE cast offs/over the hill signings and need to establish their own stars. Matt still has something to give but I feel Impact or ROH would benefit ALOT more as would Matt being more creative and a big fish in a little pond. Would AEW put Matt at the top of the card? I dont think so and I'm not sure Matt would want to be stuck in the lower mid card again until he hangs the boots up. My money is on a return to Impact for some reason. I 100% agree with you, I completely think that AEW (although he may sign there) would be better booking their younger talent to the the main event rather than using older cast offs. |
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Mar 5, 2020 18:47:29 GMT -5
It's not really "bulls**t". When they sign these contracts, they agree to perform/remain active for the duration of the contract. If an injury or other factor halts that performing status, resulting in them NOT being able to honour that agreement, WWE has every right to add that missing time onto the end of the contract, so they can honour that agreement. Obviously you can't predict injuries but that's just the nature of wrestling. They did the same thing to Harper. They had no intension of using him for anything, they just wanted to keep him under contract to screw with him and other places he might work. They added time onto his contract due to his wrist injury. Them making the choice to sit him at home is different. He's available, ready to go, and not refusing to work... so they can't add anymore time for that, because he's not breaching his agreement. His contract was supposed to expire this March, yet they still released him early, with the mindset that they had no intention to use him in the remaining 5 or so months. |
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Post by JC Motors on Mar 6, 2020 19:13:42 GMT -5
I don't see him going back to Impact but you never know
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Post by WWFAttitudeEraFan on Mar 18, 2020 22:50:08 GMT -5
Well, after tonight, he certainly won’t be back in WWE for awhile. Nor Impact, New Japan, or ROH. This should answer our questions without me officially spoiling anything 😉
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Mar 19, 2020 0:46:44 GMT -5
Well, after tonight, he certainly won’t be back in WWE for awhile. Nor Impact, New Japan, or ROH. This should answer our questions without me officially spoiling anything 😉 Moxley and Jericho double up with NJPW, so you never know... |
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Post by WWFAttitudeEraFan on Mar 19, 2020 0:55:47 GMT -5
Well, after tonight, he certainly won’t be back in WWE for awhile. Nor Impact, New Japan, or ROH. This should answer our questions without me officially spoiling anything 😉 Moxley and Jericho double up with NJPW, so you never know... That’s true. I should have stated full time, though. Either way, I’m happy for him. Should be a fun, new ride for everyone involved 🙂 |
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