judas
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Post by judas on Mar 5, 2020 11:03:48 GMT -5
I actually think Matt got too many figures. lol We got most incarnations of his WWE run. I mean, I got early Matt (thanks RSC!), Version 1.0, wwECW, and the Woken gimmick. I don't know what more you can ask for. Purple and green Team Xtreme. As in, the title of this thread perhaps?
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Post by Artie Kendall on Mar 5, 2020 11:07:50 GMT -5
Is there anyway we can spin this to put the blame on Toys R Us? They’re supposed to talk about that on Channel 9, after the breast exam. I hope that's not on too late tonight. I gotta be in Las Colinas in the morning.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Mar 5, 2020 11:09:53 GMT -5
It's ridiculous that Mattel keeps dropping the ball on iconic looks for guys who have been under longterm contracts. The Dudleyz, Team Xtreme Hardys, WCW Jericho. It's not like these would be difficult figures to make or there isn't known demand. Curious to see what excuse Mattel will have on this one. I think it has been mentioned that Mattel doesn't have as much freedom as Jakks did. Jakks seemed to be completely left alone by Vince and WWE judging by some of the CS figures we got. Mattel needs approval from WWE in regards to everything down to attire choice. It doesn't shock me in the least that Vince and Stephanie would not allow WCW and ECW versions of people. Even older WWE versions. Maybe I'm just making excuses for them though. There was a WCW Jericho that they dilly dallied on and had to cancel when he left. I can kind of understand that one because everyone thought he was a WWE guy for life but they made like 4 or 5 Jericho elites during his last run there and we just barely even got an Undisputed Champion one
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hardyz6
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Post by hardyz6 on Mar 5, 2020 11:17:48 GMT -5
Team extreme was my most wanted since they returned in 2017. If Mattel would have released a two pack of them early on in their tenure it would have sold extremely well.
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Post by PJ on Mar 5, 2020 11:28:50 GMT -5
I don’t really care for the Hardy’s. I was never really a fan of theirs before they left the WWE and nothing about my opinion had changed when they came back. And until I needed the WM figure to finish Danny Davis I hadn’t purchased any Matt figure since E6(?). So I don’t pay attention to their figures, but wasn’t there a RSC or Shopzone exclusive of them? The Hardy’s that I have in my Legends collection are their first R3 figures which are more than good enough for me, because they are back shelf talents for me.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 5, 2020 11:55:23 GMT -5
I actually think Matt got too many figures. lol We got most incarnations of his WWE run. I mean, I got early Matt (thanks RSC!), Version 1.0, wwECW, and the Woken gimmick. I don't know what more you can ask for. Purple and green Team Xtreme. As in, the title of this thread perhaps? Perhaps you should start customizing instead of complaining...
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Post by Old School Collector on Mar 5, 2020 12:17:02 GMT -5
They’re supposed to talk about that on Channel 9, after the breast exam. I hope that's not on too late tonight. I gotta be in Las Colinas in the morning. Anyone every said to you .. “Sounds like someone’s having a case of the Monday’s ?”
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Post by stc13 on Mar 5, 2020 12:22:44 GMT -5
I think it has been mentioned that Mattel doesn't have as much freedom as Jakks did. Jakks seemed to be completely left alone by Vince and WWE judging by some of the CS figures we got. Mattel needs approval from WWE in regards to everything down to attire choice. It doesn't shock me in the least that Vince and Stephanie would not allow WCW and ECW versions of people. Even older WWE versions. Maybe I'm just making excuses for them though. There was a WCW Jericho that they dilly dallied on and had to cancel when he left. I can kind of understand that one because everyone thought he was a WWE guy for life but they made like 4 or 5 Jericho elites during his last run there and we just barely even got an Undisputed Champion one No doubt WWE has set some ground rules for Mattel that probably aren't doing them any favors. It's not a stretch to think that including 1 active talent in every UE wave was a WWE idea. Same with the modern retros and only allowing Mattel to use Legends under a WWE deal. And I'm sure WWE shoots down plenty of figures that collectors would love. But my gut feeling is that Jericho, Hardyz, etc are squarely on Mattel's shoulders. They made a number of flashback Jerichos that WWE approved. Same with the Hardyz. I doubt WWE would approve 1999 Hardyz, but 2000 was totally off limits. Mattel has a history of trying to back high demand figures. I get it - they're not the only company that does. But unlike something like Marvel Legends where the properties aren't going anywhere, wrestlers come and go.
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Post by buddyboy101 on Mar 5, 2020 13:51:52 GMT -5
It seems like Mattel keeps using the same tactic of making lesser attires or odd choices in order to get us to buy that one first seeing as its the first in the line. Then they pump out ones closer to the look we want to buy those, holding off on the most requested as long as possible to sell more figures before making the attire we all want. If they went with the requested one first a lot of us probably wouldn't need or want the lesser attires. I get it from a business standpoint, it makes sense. But when there is potentially a finite amount of time to get these made, as you never know when a superstar will become unavailable, they keep gambling and losing, effectively screwing them from making and us from getting the attires we all really want. Also its really frustrating when we get the same ones over and over. I love Rock and I will get all his classic figures, but how many times are his trunks gonna be the swoopy fancy font in gold or silver? When are we gonna get the white sharpie like font with the red outline? or blue outline? or purple outline? With the "Layin the smackdown" elbow pads. Or another early 90s Taker instead of proper 98? Im still super pumped were getting a Brood Christian tho, and Viscera. Those are big wins to me Really agree with all of this. If you look at Jakks, the first two Hogans they released were Hogan in his prime and Hollywood Hogan, in the same line no less! They knew how to treat fans and had a great run with the legends line. Mattel had slightly better timing by snagging Savage and Scott Hall, but overall it hasn't felt as fan-friendly or passionate as Jakks. And then when you hear Bill's interviews compared with Jeremy's, you have to wonder how much the guy hates his life and his fans - living the dream life, right? Blame WWE, blame retail, but at the end of the day, the only different party is the licensee/manufacturer.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Mar 5, 2020 14:58:30 GMT -5
There was a WCW Jericho that they dilly dallied on and had to cancel when he left. I can kind of understand that one because everyone thought he was a WWE guy for life but they made like 4 or 5 Jericho elites during his last run there and we just barely even got an Undisputed Champion one No doubt WWE has set some ground rules for Mattel that probably aren't doing them any favors. It's not a stretch to think that including 1 active talent in every UE wave was a WWE idea. Same with the modern retros and only allowing Mattel to use Legends under a WWE deal. And I'm sure WWE shoots down plenty of figures that collectors would love. But my gut feeling is that Jericho, Hardyz, etc are squarely on Mattel's shoulders. They made a number of flashback Jerichos that WWE approved. Same with the Hardyz. I doubt WWE would approve 1999 Hardyz, but 2000 was totally off limits. Mattel has a history of trying to back high demand figures. I get it - they're not the only company that does. But unlike something like Marvel Legends where the properties aren't going anywhere, wrestlers come and go. Hardy Boyz are Mattel’s fault for sure, Dudley Boyz are not
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Post by Brick Man on Mar 5, 2020 15:01:52 GMT -5
It's ridiculous that Mattel keeps dropping the ball on iconic looks for guys who have been under longterm contracts. The Dudleyz, Team Xtreme Hardys, WCW Jericho. It's not like these would be difficult figures to make or there isn't known demand. Curious to see what excuse Mattel will have on this one. I did find it odd they never released classic Dudley Boyz looks during their stint in the company.
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Post by alabamaslammer64 on Mar 5, 2020 15:12:45 GMT -5
Atleast with all these legends going to AEW, maybe Jazwares will start making them.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Mar 5, 2020 15:16:57 GMT -5
It's ridiculous that Mattel keeps dropping the ball on iconic looks for guys who have been under longterm contracts. The Dudleyz, Team Xtreme Hardys, WCW Jericho. It's not like these would be difficult figures to make or there isn't known demand. Curious to see what excuse Mattel will have on this one. I did find it odd they never released classic Dudley Boyz looks during their stint in the company. They barely got out the one set of elites they did make
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Post by Brick Man on Mar 5, 2020 15:18:28 GMT -5
I did find it odd they never released classic Dudley Boyz looks during their stint in the company. They barely got out the one set of elites they did make Yeah, it's odd! I won't even pretend to know the inner workings of a toy company, but from an outside perspective, it seems odd how little they made of them.
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Post by stc13 on Mar 5, 2020 15:19:32 GMT -5
Atleast with all these legends going to AEW, maybe Jazwares will start making them. I think legends figures of AEW contracted talent are a given. To me the million dollar question is do they start signing other legends to figure deals.
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Post by alabamaslammer64 on Mar 5, 2020 15:55:55 GMT -5
Atleast with all these legends going to AEW, maybe Jazwares will start making them. I think legends figures of AEW contracted talent are a given. To me the million dollar question is do they start signing other legends to figure deals. I know I seen something on twitter a week or so ago that said somebody who’s over those figures had said if you wanna see legend guys of Arn anderson and a few others to let wicked cool toys know. So maybe if they get a lot of feedback they’ll do more legends who are signed
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Post by shanedalton on Mar 5, 2020 16:10:04 GMT -5
Collectors: "We want a lot of Surfer Sting!" Bill: "Did someone say 'Old Man Sting in a molded t-shirt?" I buy every Mattel Sting...and dear Lord this is the only one that I hate.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Mar 5, 2020 16:48:12 GMT -5
They barely got out the one set of elites they did make Yeah, it's odd! I won't even pretend to know the inner workings of a toy company, but from an outside perspective, it seems odd how little they made of them. It takes around a year to make a debut figure and they were only around for one year. Supposedly Mattel weren’t told this or they’d have tried to make several at once
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Mar 5, 2020 16:53:22 GMT -5
Is there anyway we can spin this to put the blame on Toys R Us? Personally, I blame KB toys!
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Post by Artie Kendall on Mar 5, 2020 17:43:41 GMT -5
I hope that's not on too late tonight. I gotta be in Las Colinas in the morning. Anyone every said to you .. “Sounds like someone’s having a case of the Monday’s ?” No.... No, man...Shit, no man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked saying somethin like that, man.
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