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Post by OTC Waxbender on Mar 6, 2020 4:52:10 GMT -5
"According to a report from the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Vince McMahon re-wrote a bunch of Monday’s RAW broadcast. Some of his late re-writes included the debut of Erick Rowan’s pet spider, Ricochet’s loss to Riddick Moss and more. Vince reportedly re-wrote the script for Rowan’s cage reveal and wanted to have a big tarantula inside the cage.
McMahon also re-wrote the Ricochet vs. Riddick Moss match. That match was originally set to be Moss vs. R-Truth, which makes more sense with the storylines these past few months. McMahon instead changed R-Truth to Ricochet, who just worked a match with Brock Lesnar at Super ShowDown. Vince then insisted on a clean win for Moss, thus continuing the burial of Ricochet.
Vince McMahon also re-wrote Aleister Black’s gauntlet match with The Club, specifically handing Black his first loss on the main roster.
As you’d expect, there was some “eye rolling” backstage over the booking of Ricochet and Aleister Black. The problem is – nobody can do anything about it as Vince makes the final decisions.
Dirt sheet report so do with that what you will but assuming this is true which I can see, it does kinda surprise me that he would take away precious XFL time to come mess up RAW and flex his "authority"
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Post by Edgehead on Mar 6, 2020 5:12:50 GMT -5
You don't get a animatronic spider to appear out of thin air. That was planned for some time.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 6, 2020 10:32:53 GMT -5
You don't get a animatronic spider to appear out of thin air. That was planned for some time. Or someone on staff went to a local Halloween store. That thing did not look impressive. |
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 6, 2020 10:36:26 GMT -5
You don't get a animatronic spider to appear out of thin air. That was planned for some time. Or someone on staff went to a local Halloween store. That thing did not look impressive. That was the problem with this hold thing to begin with, with the way the wrestlers who saw the thing in the cage were reacting if the audience didn't react the way they did then the whole thing was going to fail. And, you're right, it did not look that impressive. |
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 6, 2020 12:02:58 GMT -5
Ugh that spider was so fake. They should've put a sphynx cat in there, it would at least make the terror reaction seem more like shock than having grown men act terrified of a Halloween decoration.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Mar 6, 2020 13:46:20 GMT -5
The Black losing in the gauntlet would be okay as long as it leads to Undertaker and Black vs. The Club in a handicapped match at Wrestlemania.
As for Ricochet, I legit figured he would win the 24/7 Title as a reward for being destroyed by Lesnar days earlier. I was wrong.
And as for the giant spider, it at least got people talking, so that's something.
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Mar 6, 2020 14:52:51 GMT -5
In a semi-related matter, Vince is getting cold feet on Shayna Baszler being a top heel on Raw. Reports were she was originally expected to win the Rumble in January but was changed within the last week or two, with Charlotte getting the nod. And now he was not impressed with her match with Kairi Sane, that she didn't get the reaction he wanted.
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Post by sracores on Mar 6, 2020 16:17:59 GMT -5
Hearing all these rumors is real disappointing. It is an ongoing theme with VKM. Burying three talents that can very likely be major players and move WWE forward.....just stupid IMO.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 6, 2020 17:16:56 GMT -5
Sounds like someone is running with the "Vince is bad and everything you don't like in life is his fault" excuse. Not saying it's not true, but it seems like the low hanging fruit for anyone trying to make up a headline.
I wasn't trilled with Ricochet losing either, but if they're going with the story of him still being banged up, it kinda makes sense. Had Ricochet went out there hit his flips and won the match easily, people would be complaining how no one in WWE sells. As for the spider, it was dumb. But chances are it was always going to be. If they go with "it's a toy that he thinks is real" it might be stupid enough to work. If they pretend it's real, then yeah, that's dumb. With Aleister... there is no way you can call that a burial. Dude was down three to one and still put up a hell of a fight. Had he lost to Anderson, a case could be made. But he took a beating and still was fighting back. Plus he lost to one of the best ever. So I'm sorry, if that's considered a burial nowadays then the internet is not for me. I'll move to the woods. |
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Post by Brick Man on Mar 6, 2020 18:02:25 GMT -5
Sounds like someone is running with the "Vince is bad and everything you don't like in life is his fault" excuse. Not saying it's not true, but it seems like the low hanging fruit for anyone trying to make up a headline.
I wasn't trilled with Ricochet losing either, but if they're going with the story of him still being banged up, it kinda makes sense. Had Ricochet went out there hit his flips and won the match easily, people would be complaining how no one in WWE sells. As for the spider, it was dumb. But chances are it was always going to be. If they go with "it's a toy that he thinks is real" it might be stupid enough to work. If they pretend it's real, then yeah, that's dumb. With Aleister... there is no way you can call that a burial. Dude was down three to one and still put up a hell of a fight. Had he lost to Anderson, a case could be made. But he took a beating and still was fighting back. Plus he lost to one of the best ever. So I'm sorry, if that's considered a burial nowadays then the internet is not for me. I'll move to the woods. I agree! I hate when people throw around the terms "buried" and "burial" just because someone loses a match. |
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Post by LK3 on Mar 6, 2020 19:04:25 GMT -5
In a semi-related matter, Vince is getting cold feet on Shayna Baszler being a top heel on Raw. Reports were she was originally expected to win the Rumble in January but was changed within the last week or two, with Charlotte getting the nod. And now he was not impressed with her match with Kairi Sane, that she didn't get the reaction he wanted. I don’t expect the match to change, but I can see him keeping the title on Becky. Personally I’ve never been big on Shayna. She’s alright, but I find her pretty boring in the ring. To me she doesn’t come across as vicious as she’s built up to be. I’m not advocating to completely disregard her just because I’m not a fan, but at the same time I’m not going to be upset over this one like other people would be. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Mar 6, 2020 19:11:41 GMT -5
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is about as reliable for wrestling news as The Enquirer is for Elvis sightings
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Post by JC Motors on Mar 6, 2020 19:14:30 GMT -5
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is about as reliable for wrestling news as The Enquirer is for Elvis sightings They're Fake news |
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Post by marino13 on Mar 6, 2020 19:45:35 GMT -5
Sounds like someone is running with the "Vince is bad and everything you don't like in life is his fault" excuse. Not saying it's not true, but it seems like the low hanging fruit for anyone trying to make up a headline. I wasn't trilled with Ricochet losing either, but if they're going with the story of him still being banged up, it kinda makes sense. Had Ricochet went out there hit his flips and won the match easily, people would be complaining how no one in WWE sells. As for the spider, it was dumb. But chances are it was always going to be. If they go with "it's a toy that he thinks is real" it might be stupid enough to work. If they pretend it's real, then yeah, that's dumb. With Aleister... there is no way you can call that a burial. Dude was down three to one and still put up a hell of a fight. Had he lost to Anderson, a case could be made. But he took a beating and still was fighting back. Plus he lost to one of the best ever. So I'm sorry, if that's considered a burial nowadays then the internet is not for me. I'll move to the woods. I agree! I hate when people throw around the terms "buried" and "burial" just because someone loses a match. They think it makes them sound smart, like they're in in the business. Fact is 90% use it wrong and sound stupid. |
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Post by Chip on Mar 6, 2020 20:13:17 GMT -5
Sounds like someone is running with the "Vince is bad and everything you don't like in life is his fault" excuse. Not saying it's not true, but it seems like the low hanging fruit for anyone trying to make up a headline. I wasn't trilled with Ricochet losing either, but if they're going with the story of him still being banged up, it kinda makes sense. Had Ricochet went out there hit his flips and won the match easily, people would be complaining how no one in WWE sells. As for the spider, it was dumb. But chances are it was always going to be. If they go with "it's a toy that he thinks is real" it might be stupid enough to work. If they pretend it's real, then yeah, that's dumb. With Aleister... there is no way you can call that a burial. Dude was down three to one and still put up a hell of a fight. Had he lost to Anderson, a case could be made. But he took a beating and still was fighting back. Plus he lost to one of the best ever. So I'm sorry, if that's considered a burial nowadays then the internet is not for me. I'll move to the woods. its almost like this guy "gets it" |
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Post by sracores on Mar 6, 2020 20:16:33 GMT -5
 Opinions are opinions. Everyone has them. Sorry you do not agree (shrugs) |
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Post by WWFAttitudeEraFan on Mar 7, 2020 0:14:15 GMT -5
Lol, sounds 100% reliable, and believable. Vince loves burying guys like this, you know, people in that company who actually have talent.
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Post by Brick Man on Mar 7, 2020 0:23:20 GMT -5
Opinions are opinions. Everyone has them. Sorry you do not agree (shrugs) I think it's all storyline. Ricochet posted on Twitter a bunch of pictures of him losing, then he loses that night on Raw to Riddick. I don't think it's a burial. I think it's a small losing streak gimmick that will turn him heel. |
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Post by K5 on Mar 7, 2020 0:31:45 GMT -5
Sounds like someone is running with the "Vince is bad and everything you don't like in life is his fault" excuse. Not saying it's not true, but it seems like the low hanging fruit for anyone trying to make up a headline. I wasn't trilled with Ricochet losing either, but if they're going with the story of him still being banged up, it kinda makes sense. Had Ricochet went out there hit his flips and won the match easily, people would be complaining how no one in WWE sells. As for the spider, it was dumb. But chances are it was always going to be. If they go with "it's a toy that he thinks is real" it might be stupid enough to work. If they pretend it's real, then yeah, that's dumb. With Aleister... there is no way you can call that a burial. Dude was down three to one and still put up a hell of a fight. Had he lost to Anderson, a case could be made. But he took a beating and still was fighting back. Plus he lost to one of the best ever. So I'm sorry, if that's considered a burial nowadays then the internet is not for me. I'll move to the woods. its almost like this guy "gets it"  this mostly sounds like some thrown together report, but riochet’s treatment is the shits. it’s not like the glass is broken but it’s certainly not half full either. |
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Mar 7, 2020 5:48:20 GMT -5
Sounds like someone is running with the "Vince is bad and everything you don't like in life is his fault" excuse. Not saying it's not true, but it seems like the low hanging fruit for anyone trying to make up a headline. I wasn't trilled with Ricochet losing either, but if they're going with the story of him still being banged up, it kinda makes sense. Had Ricochet went out there hit his flips and won the match easily, people would be complaining how no one in WWE sells. As for the spider, it was dumb. But chances are it was always going to be. If they go with "it's a toy that he thinks is real" it might be stupid enough to work. If they pretend it's real, then yeah, that's dumb. With Aleister... there is no way you can call that a burial. Dude was down three to one and still put up a hell of a fight. Had he lost to Anderson, a case could be made. But he took a beating and still was fighting back. Plus he lost to one of the best ever. So I'm sorry, if that's considered a burial nowadays then the internet is not for me. I'll move to the woods. Good grief, your common sense is legendary. |
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