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Post by judas on Apr 14, 2020 9:14:12 GMT -5
Anyone else looking forward to "The Donald Trump Propaganda Show" tonight while he gloats about himself amid the mass death and suffering?
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 14, 2020 10:54:21 GMT -5
Anyone else looking forward to "The Donald Trump Propaganda Show" tonight while he gloats about himself amid the mass death and suffering? Politics aside and NO political discussion here but...it amazes me President Donald Trump is the same person I saw on a few WWF Wrestlemanias when I was a kid. He was a quiet, humble, unassuming person on those shows. I do think he's gotten better with the outlandish way he has acted in the last few years but still, very shocking how he was able to reinvent himself almost like a WWE wrestler like Rock, Austin, Mankind or Vince McMahon. At WrestleMania IV he had no speaking role, at WrestleMania V he just stood there quietly while Sean Mooney botched the hell out of his interview and at VIII he was just another celebrity face among Lou Ferrigno, Henry Winkler and Chuck Norris.
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Post by rkmo: Lindbergh's Baby on Apr 14, 2020 11:06:30 GMT -5
judas No matter how accurate the statement, politically charged posts risk inflaming emotions here and lead to this thread being locked, like our own Politics thread. So if we want this to remain open to report on happenings, such as: - GOP governors resisting calls from local leaders to issue stay-at-home orders and even signing orders that supercede the wishes of local municipalities; - the Administration instructing states and hospitals to take it upon themselves to search for medical supplies, only to intercept the orders and claim them for federal gov't use, which more often than not seems to depend on who does and doesn't have an amicable relationship with the guy occupying the High Office; - claims of a "total authority" to unilaterally order states to lift stay-at-home orders, despite saying a couple weeks prior that there was no such power to issue a nationwide protective order or to instruct all states to issue one; - the failure to set up promised easily accessible testing sites established near large supercenter and pharmacy chains nationwide, put federal aid to establish medical labs meant to study the virus and work toward a remedy, or even fulfill the promise of the actual test kits; etc. It will be best to check partisan leanings and opinions at the door.
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Post by JC Motors on Apr 14, 2020 12:34:03 GMT -5
So I went to the grocery store today, they are limiting the amount of people they allow in at a time. You can only enter through one door and exit out the other side of the store. It's pretty surreal seeing the checkout line extend all the way around the store due to social distancing
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Apr 14, 2020 18:10:37 GMT -5
So I went to the grocery store today, they are limiting the amount of people they allow in at a time. You can only enter through one door and exit out the other side of the store. It's pretty surreal seeing the checkout line extend all the way around the store due to social distancing Mine was the same situation. But the aisles are one-way only, the deli was closed (they sell pre-packaged items now) and they were out of milk. They also weren't accepting cash. Just credit or debit only.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Apr 14, 2020 22:11:36 GMT -5
So I went to the grocery store today, they are limiting the amount of people they allow in at a time. You can only enter through one door and exit out the other side of the store. It's pretty surreal seeing the checkout line extend all the way around the store due to social distancing I read an article today that cited both the possibility of a 2nd wave of COVID in autumn, and social distancing becoming the norm for 2 years if no vaccine becomes available. The idea of either is disheartening to say the least.
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Post by rkmo: Lindbergh's Baby on Apr 14, 2020 22:13:50 GMT -5
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Post by bWo on Apr 14, 2020 22:37:10 GMT -5
Your free to send yours back if you choose.
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Post by Truth HuRts on Apr 14, 2020 23:23:11 GMT -5
So I went to the grocery store today, they are limiting the amount of people they allow in at a time. You can only enter through one door and exit out the other side of the store. It's pretty surreal seeing the checkout line extend all the way around the store due to social distancing I read an article today that cited both the possibility of a 2nd wave of COVID in autumn, and social distancing becoming the norm for 2 years if no vaccine becomes available. The idea of either is disheartening to say the least. no one is going to take the vaccine
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Post by Truth HuRts on Apr 14, 2020 23:24:35 GMT -5
All stay in our house like good sheep while they take away our freedom
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Apr 14, 2020 23:29:08 GMT -5
All stay in our house like good sheep while they take away our freedom The virus is dictating the circumstances, not the government. Anyone who is trying to live his/her life like nothing is happening is oblivious. Listen to the scientific minds and act accordingly. This is simple logic.
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Post by Charabro on Apr 15, 2020 2:37:17 GMT -5
The virus is dictating the circumstances, not the government. Anyone who is trying to live his/her life like nothing is happening is oblivious. Listen to the scientific minds and act accordingly. This is simple logic. the number of deaths are made up by media to keep you in fear and all you sheep fall for it I reckon there should be an IQ test to register for this forum
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Apr 15, 2020 2:44:43 GMT -5
The virus is dictating the circumstances, not the government. Anyone who is trying to live his/her life like nothing is happening is oblivious. Listen to the scientific minds and act accordingly. This is simple logic. the number of deaths are made up by media to keep you in fear and all you sheep fall for it So your theory is that "the media", which would encompass countless outlets across various national and political divides, is manufacturing a fallacious death toll that would entail hospitals, police departments, nursing homes, etc in these various countries all being part of this grand charade? I sincerely hope you're trolling.
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Post by Truth HuRts on Apr 15, 2020 2:52:39 GMT -5
the number of deaths are made up by media to keep you in fear and all you sheep fall for it So your theory is that "the media", which would encompass countless outlets across various national and political divides, is manufacturing a fallacious death toll that would entail hospitals, police departments, nursing homes, etc in these various countries all being part of this grand charade? I sincerely hope you're trolling.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Apr 15, 2020 3:11:53 GMT -5
I swear if I hear one more conspiracy theorist spout off how this is either a hoax or a plot created by the government I'm gonna slap someone with a library. Not a library book, mind you. A library.
People are dying. We just had our first death here yesterday. To try and play this off as something that was in any way planned or intentional is both nonsensical and irresponsible. Not to mention just plain dumb.
Personally? I fear we're in for a lot more of this. They're already talking about how this is going to become endemic and even if it calms down by June, it'll be back again in fall.
Things are very very bad right now, and I don't look for them to get better too quickly.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Apr 15, 2020 5:37:52 GMT -5
So your theory is that "the media", which would encompass countless outlets across various national and political divides, is manufacturing a fallacious death toll that would entail hospitals, police departments, nursing homes, etc in these various countries all being part of this grand charade? I sincerely hope you're trolling. That was one of the most intellectually-bankrupt, self-aggrandizing videos that I've ever seen, which is a monumental feat in the age of YouTube conspiracy theorists. Within the first couple of minutes, he said, "No one is anticipating a pandemic." You have GOT to be kidding me. I'm in the health care field, and I can assure you that pandemic response has been a regular part of my training since I started in the 90s. In fact, one of the first ones that I received was how to deal with an outbreak like the 1918 Influenza. One of my trainers said that these are inevitable, and there's no telling when something like this would hit the US again. If you really want to think critically, apply the principle of Occam's razor. No unnecessary suppositions should be made. Don't rely on internet buffoons who derive their sense of worth from inventing conspiracy theories. Call your local hospital, and ask a doctor about his/her experience with COVID. Ask some nursing home workers, like the one in my area that just had a nasty outbreak. Go talk with an epidemiologist. These are the experts in this situation, not people who indulge in vapid fantasies about Illuminati. The simple, undeniable fact is that anyone regularly exposing himself/herself to community areas without precautions and PPE is endangering not only his/her own life, but everyone that he/she contacts. Again, I hope you're trolling, because if not, you're playing Russian Roulette with every single person whom you know.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Apr 15, 2020 5:48:12 GMT -5
I swear if I hear one more conspiracy theorist spout off how this is either a hoax or a plot created by the government I'm gonna slap someone with a library. Not a library book, mind you. A library. People are dying. We just had our first death here yesterday. To try and play this off as something that was in any way planned or intentional is both nonsensical and irresponsible. Not to mention just plain dumb. People who propagate misinformation in times like these can be just as dangerous as the virus. A month ago, I heard numerous people in my area saying that it was just another flu, and the concern was a product of the 24-hour news cycle. Now the area has been besieged, and everyone knows a person or persons who have been infected. No one is shrugging it off now.
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Post by bWo on Apr 15, 2020 6:34:01 GMT -5
Anyone consider the fact that they keep saying loads of people are infected but not showing symptoms?
There's no way to put a DIRECT number on anything, but that would mean that the mortality rate is FAR LESS then what we're seeing. Those who were sick and got better but didn't even realize it would go into the "recovered" category.
The percentage of fatalities would go down because they're now coming from a much larger sample, which would make this virus a lot less "deadly" then we were thinking.
Thoughts?
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Apr 15, 2020 6:46:14 GMT -5
Anyone consider the fact that they keep saying loads of people are infected but not showing symptoms? There's no way to put a DIRECT number on anything, but that would mean that the mortality rate is FAR LESS then what we're seeing. Those who were sick and got better but didn't even realize it would go into the "recovered" category. The percentage of fatalities would go down because they're now coming from a much larger sample, which would make this virus a lot "deadly" then we were thinking. Thoughts? The number of fatalities is almost certainly greater than what is being reported. The numbers are based on people known to have the virus prior to treatment, then officially succumbing to it. There are most definitely people who didn't have access to testing, declined treatment, or slipped through the cracks of record-keeping as hospitals were overloaded and understaffed. It's currently at 130,000 worldwide with over 29,000 in the US. Those are truly scary numbers, especially since so many hot spots have yet to peak.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Apr 15, 2020 6:57:38 GMT -5
Anyone consider the fact that they keep saying loads of people are infected but not showing symptoms? There's no way to put a DIRECT number on anything, but that would mean that the mortality rate is FAR LESS then what we're seeing. Those who were sick and got better but didn't even realize it would go into the "recovered" category. The percentage of fatalities would go down because they're now coming from a much larger sample, which would make this virus a lot "deadly" then we were thinking. Thoughts? The number of fatalities is almost certainly greater than what is being reported. The numbers are based on people known to have the virus prior to treatment, then officially succumbing to it. There are most definitely people who didn't have access to testing, declined treatment, or slipped through the cracks of record-keeping as hospitals were overloaded and understaffed. It's currently at 130,000 worldwide with over 29,000 in the US. Those are truly scary numbers, especially since so many hot spots have yet to peak. I second this notion with one point. You are absolutely correct that there's no way to put a direct number on it. But the fact that people who aren't showing the usual symptoms aren't getting tested? No they aren't going to be listed as Coronavirus cases. Which means if they recover, they won't know they ever had it. But if they die from complications? They likely won't know with that either. It goes both ways.
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