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Post by tg11 on Apr 2, 2020 8:08:31 GMT -5
Flair
Arn
Tully
Windham
However if it was a dream lineup for me then it would be
Flair
Arn
Luger
Benoit
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Post by Nivro™ on Apr 2, 2020 11:02:11 GMT -5
Flair, Arn, Tully & Windham
But followed by Flair, Arn, Benoit & Pillman....the potential with those 4 are untapped.
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Post by JokerFC on Apr 2, 2020 17:13:50 GMT -5
Flair, Arn, Tully, Barry & JJ as manager.
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Post by Retrospect on Apr 3, 2020 14:51:17 GMT -5
Of course the WWE Hall of Fame team is the best version. There's almost no denying that, only ahead of the original by a horse's @$$ hair. My personal favorite sort of version was the team who went up against the New World Order. The WCW Bizzaro version of the Ultimate Mega Power Maniacs. Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Lex Luger, and Sting. Too bad they didn't trust the Stinger. My fantasy lineup would be the first 4 members who have won the Big Gold Belt. That would have been a great version of Evolution. I always felt like Sting as a horseman was never meant to be a long-term thing but rather to set up a feud with Flair. He was always a better face IMO but I don’t remember much from that time. |
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Post by Retrospect on Apr 3, 2020 21:45:14 GMT -5
Flair, Arn, Tully & Windham But followed by Flair, Arn, Benoit & Pillman....the potential with those 4 are untapped. Pillman was great but he didn’t get to do it for long enough. I was more of a fan of his as a Horseman than as a Hart Foundation member. |
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Post by NamJoonKim on Apr 4, 2020 6:27:13 GMT -5
Flair. Anderson. Blanchard, Windham.
I really could never get into Ole Anderson, and I never felt they needed JJ Dillon. Those two just were not cool enough.
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Post by PJ on Apr 4, 2020 9:02:35 GMT -5
Of course the WWE Hall of Fame team is the best version. There's almost no denying that, only ahead of the original by a horse's @$$ hair. My personal favorite sort of version was the team who went up against the New World Order. The WCW Bizzaro version of the Ultimate Mega Power Maniacs. Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Lex Luger, and Sting. Too bad they didn't trust the Stinger. My fantasy lineup would be the first 4 members who have won the Big Gold Belt. That would have been a great version of Evolution. I always felt like Sting as a horseman was never meant to be a long-term thing but rather to set up a feud with Flair. He was always a better face IMO but I don’t remember much from that time. Can’t say about his time in TNA as I never watched it, but in WCW and his short time in the wwe Sting was always a face. |
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Post by Retrospect on Apr 4, 2020 18:14:54 GMT -5
I always felt like Sting as a horseman was never meant to be a long-term thing but rather to set up a feud with Flair. He was always a better face IMO but I don’t remember much from that time. Can’t say about his time in TNA as I never watched it, but in WCW and his short time in the wwe Sting was always a face. I was just talking about his brief stint in the Horseman. Other than that he was always a face. Not sure about his TNA days either. |
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Post by jking1979 on Apr 5, 2020 4:18:38 GMT -5
I actually liked the version of Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Barry Windham and Sid Vicious. They even came out with WCW figures for the group. I still think the original was the best version.
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 5, 2020 7:44:14 GMT -5
The Hall of Fame version, as many have mentioned, is the best/most logical but a lot of other members fit really well. Lex, Sid, Benoit, Malekno and even McMichael fit the the image and style and level of fame. With J.J. there was and still to this day a level of respect from the other guys with him. You can tell even today at the meet and greets how Arn, Flair, Tully and Barry respect J.J. It also speaks to just how good J.J. was/is because I don't think he was with the Horsemen for more than two or three years yet he is very much associated with them despite so many incarnations where he wasn't involved yet most of the four had been.
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Post by rateddal on Apr 5, 2020 16:09:05 GMT -5
I always felt like the Flair, Arn, Benoit, Pillman group should've been huge but the Loose Cannon character blew up, Pillman was out of the group and Mongo was in. Big letdown.
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Post by drifter on Apr 5, 2020 22:20:52 GMT -5
Can’t say about his time in TNA as I never watched it, but in WCW and his short time in the wwe Sting was always a face. I was just talking about his brief stint in the Horseman. Other than that he was always a face. Not sure about his TNA days either. That's not actually true. Sting turned heel to win his last WCW Title. He used a bat Lex Luger had brought out, to beat Hogan for the title. Wasn't a long heel run, and the fans still were cheering him, but it was officially a heel turn. As for TNA, he was part of the original Main Event Mafia, who were heels. |
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Post by The Brain on Apr 5, 2020 22:26:19 GMT -5
That brief heel run for Sting in 99 was really bad.Talk about unnecessary.
He's a guy like Steamboat and Santana in terms of being babyfaces for life.
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Post by drifter on Apr 5, 2020 22:29:04 GMT -5
That brief heel run for Sting in 99 was really bad.Talk about unnecessary. He's a guy like Steamboat and Santana in terms of being babyfaces for life. Kinda like the genius idea when they turned Goldberg and had him side with Bischoff and Russo. |
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 6, 2020 7:35:08 GMT -5
It's pretty cool that Arn and Flair are tied. I know Flair is the main eventer but I always felt like they were on an equal level. Flair is great but with always being at the top it never seemed like he evolved. Arn, on the other hand could be singles or tag team or in a faction, he always had an amazing theme song and he could turn on a dime with heel or face and no matter what he did it was just great. I always like his promos and interviews more than almost any other wrestler. He did an amazing promo, with the Stud Stable theme in the background, where he was at some sort of remote dirt field and it was simply amazing but he could do that anywhere, anytime. I think his 1995-1996 theme is the best there is and it fit him well.
Arn is a guy I think fits into that newer thread about Vader in being "too generous." He was in a lot of tag teams yet he was probably the bigger star of the two and in singles he usually wound up with mid card guys when he himself was more main event.
Does anyone know if the WWE DVD theme was used for the later WCW Horsemen on WCW TV or was it a WWE creation and dubbed over on their DVD?
I think the only time I heard it with the WCW film was when Arn introduced the last version in late 1999. I may have just not been watching much but don't remember this at all in WCW. It is a good theme but also screams of a WWE generic theme used to dub over WCW music.
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Post by Bandalero on Apr 6, 2020 7:51:54 GMT -5
The greatest combo of the four was Flair, Anderson, Blanchard and Windham for sure.
I know there's a soft spot for Ole and JJ, but for absolute pure talent, the above four were it.
Honourable mention to Sid Vicious. Seriously, such an underrated talent, he added the "big man" muscle of the group. That would be my honorary 5th man
Benoit/Pillman as a team would have been legendary - even more than the Hollywood Blondes to be honest.
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Post by jking1979 on Apr 6, 2020 13:17:40 GMT -5
Ole Anderson was as tough as nails. He was a great partner for Arn Anderson. I respect Ric Flair but Ole Anderson could have taken over the group if he wanted to.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Apr 6, 2020 14:48:39 GMT -5
Flair, Arn, Mongo and Benoit.
And I liked Jarrett or Pillman with the group even though that was for so short
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Apr 6, 2020 19:06:23 GMT -5
Definitely Flair, Arn, Tully and Ole and JJ. I can accept Windham to a degree.
Unpopular opinion, I think Barry Windham is wildly overrated.
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 6, 2020 23:02:33 GMT -5
Definitely Flair, Arn, Tully and Ole and JJ. I can accept Windham to a degree. Unpopular opinion, I think Barry Windham is wildly overrated. Barry never stuck around long enough to really make a great mark like Ric Flair or even Arn. He left WWF twice in the 80s and neither run were very lengthy. He was with NWA for maybe two years in the late 80s. His longest run was with WCW from early 1990 to mid 1993 but in today's time of only one major fed and 10-20 year runs, 3 years is nothing. He also disappeared for far too long. It's almost like a decade passed between him leaving WCW in 1993 and coming back for Slamboree. It's like the fans didn't even remember him, sadly. The late 1990s weren't much better for him either. It was the time of bad gimmicks and he got 2 from WWF, 3 if you count his involvement with the WWF's NWA version. He has a good place in wrestling history but I think it would have been better if he stuck around longer which would have led to higher profile feuds and storylines. |
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