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Post by Crossfit Jesus on May 11, 2020 10:13:34 GMT -5
ing mattel FAILED it again now with sting!! When will they learn!!
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Post by CM Poor on May 11, 2020 10:14:04 GMT -5
I could order that Razor, but I keep telling myself I don't need it. Already have a Hall Elite.
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Post by LA Times on May 11, 2020 10:14:54 GMT -5
I will say stings lack of inclusion is weird but i don't think it has to do with his contract. WWE literally (days ago) just realized male leggings in the design of his green scorpion tights. I'd buy it if i was a surfer sting cosplayer instead of an AJ styles one. Merchandise deals and action figure deals are 2 separate contracts
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on May 11, 2020 10:16:00 GMT -5
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Post by crush on May 11, 2020 10:16:09 GMT -5
Sting news is a bummer, as he was the only one in the set I really wanted. But not having a Sting to order did give me the nudge I needed to order Razor so that’s a plus I guess. Definitely wanted one for my collection, and this attire is pretty colorful.
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Post by nate315 on May 11, 2020 10:16:59 GMT -5
Oh man, I’m really looking forward to Jake the Snake. I hope he doesn’t get canceled too! This new legends series is off to a rough start. Jake's a completely different situation. While I'm not saying it won't be cancelled given how fickle WWE is, I'm not ready to write it off. Jake's role in AEW was known when the figure was shown, and Steve said WWE had given the green light. Canning the Sting figure seems more like them playing hardball with contract negotiations. Very true. It’s just a cool a different look to Jake that we haven’t seen yet. It’d be a shame to see it canceled, but we’ll see how it goes.
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Post by wheeljack83 on May 11, 2020 10:17:25 GMT -5
That’s a big hit losing Sting so far in production. Could totally effect how the line goes without a big name like him to anchor it. Really don’t wanna see another Tito Santana situation here .. I wonder what this means for Jake Roberts for Series 8.
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Post by Chip on May 11, 2020 10:18:50 GMT -5
damn that sucks about Sting, we JUST saw the final images not that long ago, like....it had to have been already far into production. looks like this is the end of the line for Mattel Sting figures for awhile
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Post by stc13 on May 11, 2020 10:19:19 GMT -5
I will say stings lack of inclusion is weird but i don't think it has to do with his contract. WWE literally (days ago) just realized male leggings in the design of his green scorpion tights. I'd buy it if i was a surfer sting cosplayer instead of an AJ styles one. Merchandise deals and action figure deals are 2 separate contracts No they aren't. Legends contract include fees for appearances (ie Axxess) and global merchandising rights for all licensed properties (DVD's, tshirts, video games, trading cards, figures, etc).
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 10:20:07 GMT -5
Who will be the first nonheenan figure you put the weasel outfit on? Im thinking Charlotte.
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Post by azraelms on May 11, 2020 10:20:24 GMT -5
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Post by stc13 on May 11, 2020 10:20:41 GMT -5
Jake's a completely different situation. While I'm not saying it won't be cancelled given how fickle WWE is, I'm not ready to write it off. Jake's role in AEW was known when the figure was shown, and Steve said WWE had given the green light. Canning the Sting figure seems more like them playing hardball with contract negotiations. Very true. It’s just a cool a different look to Jake that we haven’t seen yet. It’d be a shame to see it canceled, but we’ll see how it goes. Steve posted on IG last night that Jake is still on track for release. Take that with a grain of salt, cause anything in WWE-land can change on a whim. But I'm holding out hope. Both those figures look amazing and the green tights is very, very high on my all-time want list. If Mattel doesn't make them, Jazwares will.
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Post by chowmeinkane on May 11, 2020 10:21:35 GMT -5
Sting was the only one I wanted
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Post by CM Poor on May 11, 2020 10:22:29 GMT -5
Merchandise deals and action figure deals are 2 separate contracts No they aren't. Legends contract include fees for appearances (ie Axxess) and global merchandising rights for all licensed properties (DVD's, tshirts, video games, trading cards, figures, etc). Steve is probably blue in the remote face from the number of times he's repeated the fact that just because someone has a Legends or merchandise deal doesn't mean they're available to his team. I'm gonna take his word for it.
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Post by havoc7179 on May 11, 2020 10:22:58 GMT -5
I will say stings lack of inclusion is weird but i don't think it has to do with his contract. WWE literally (days ago) just realized male leggings in the design of his green scorpion tights. I'd buy it if i was a surfer sting cosplayer instead of an AJ styles one. Merchandise deals and action figure deals are 2 separate contracts I thought that was only a thing with jakks. This has me thinking that it has to be someting outside of mattels control since they said just that. So it wouldn't be a toy contract if it's separate. It has to do with wwe's side I imagine.
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Post by omartheterror on May 11, 2020 10:23:30 GMT -5
damn that sucks about Sting, we JUST saw the final images not that long ago, like....it had to have been already far into production. looks like this is the end of the line for Mattel Sting figures for awhile I know people wanted every outfit he ever wore, but two surfer stings, an amazing crow sting(a lot better than the legends one I thought), wolf pac, and Wrestlemania attire is pretty damn good IMO.
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Post by wheeljack83 on May 11, 2020 10:23:33 GMT -5
That’s a big hit losing Sting so far in production. Could totally effect how the line goes without a big name like him to anchor it. Really don’t wanna see another Tito Santana situation here .. I was excited to have an earlier version of Crow Sting. Sadly it was not to be.
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Post by Blackbird 13 on May 11, 2020 10:23:51 GMT -5
I'm not one to complain a lot about Mattel or the way they handle things... but the complete lack of transparency on this combined with the lack of communication with Target on timing for this really does leave a sour taste.
Some folks stayed up late only to be rewarded with the figure they wanted being cancelled, a day after designated preorder day. Given there was an ad made, this couldn't have been THAT last minute.
While I still supported and grabbed a Valentine and Heenan, and I get that plans change, this is definitely a situation where several companies could have communicated things better.
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Post by wheeljack83 on May 11, 2020 10:25:05 GMT -5
Very true. It’s just a cool a different look to Jake that we haven’t seen yet. It’d be a shame to see it canceled, but we’ll see how it goes. Steve posted on IG last night that Jake is still on track for release. Take that with a grain of salt, cause anything in WWE-land can change on a whim. But I'm holding out hope. Both those figures look amazing and the green tights is very, very high on my all-time want list. If Mattel doesn't make them, Jazwares will. Steve also posted in early April that we were still getting a Sting figure with this wave. As Dave Meltzer says, "plans change."
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Post by Figure Addict™ on May 11, 2020 10:26:45 GMT -5
I understand the let down from Sting, but why are people still complaining?
Did the PreOrders go up? Yes Were you able to easily obtain and Preorder what you wanted minus Sting because of unforeseen circumstances? Yes Will you now be able to have those said figures delivered to your doorstep without pulling your hair out looking all over creation for these figures and you got them at store cost? Yes
Relax and enjoy the fact that this was actually able to happen and stop complaining. You're still getting your toys and supporting the return of a great line
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