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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on May 15, 2020 17:10:43 GMT -5
Just read that she is going to release a t shirt in his honor and the money raised goes towards the Owen Foundation. So unless some figure company not associated at all with WWE comes to her that’s probably the only way we’ll get merchandise of his
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Post by Chip on May 15, 2020 18:52:13 GMT -5
oh how nice of her to make a ing t-shirt in his honor. i know we dont know the entire story here, but out of ALL the great wrestlers who have passed away. most (if not all) of which who have had children and families, i dont think any of their widows or surviving family members have been as petty and childish as martha. you think Vickie Guerrero wasn't sad and angry that her husband died at 38 years old? (Owen was 34, btw)....yet here we are 15 years later with figures, merchandise, dvd's, etc. Nothing about Eddie's memory has been tarnished, in fact I'd argue it's kept it as strong as it has because we keep getting things like that. WWE barely mentions Owen anymore, they probably don't want to hear about it. Of course his death was tragic, sad, all those things. But he was a massive part of wrestling history, and at the very least the guy deserves to be represented by collectors all over the world...the same as almost everyone else has been.
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Post by vampiroporvida on May 15, 2020 18:56:14 GMT -5
oh how nice of her to make a ing t-shirt in his honor. i know we dont know the entire story here, but out of ALL the great wrestlers who have passed away. most (if not all) of which who have had children and families, i dont think any of their widows or surviving family members have been as petty and childish as martha. you think Vickie Guerrero wasn't sad and angry that her husband died at 38 years old? (Owen was 34, btw)....yet here we are 15 years later with figures, merchandise, dvd's, etc. Nothing about Eddie's memory has been tarnished, in fact I'd argue it's kept it as strong as it has because we keep getting things like that. WWE barely mentions Owen anymore, they probably don't want to hear about it. Of course his death was tragic, sad, all those things. But he was a massive part of wrestling history, and at the very least the guy deserves to be represented by collectors all over the world...the same as almost everyone else has been. I get the want from the collector side, but man, listen to the tij podcast with her....you may feel different on her.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on May 15, 2020 19:00:16 GMT -5
oh how nice of her to make a ing t-shirt in his honor. i know we dont know the entire story here, but out of ALL the great wrestlers who have passed away. most (if not all) of which who have had children and families, i dont think any of their widows or surviving family members have been as petty and childish as martha. you think Vickie Guerrero wasn't sad and angry that her husband died at 38 years old? (Owen was 34, btw)....yet here we are 15 years later with figures, merchandise, dvd's, etc. Nothing about Eddie's memory has been tarnished, in fact I'd argue it's kept it as strong as it has because we keep getting things like that. WWE barely mentions Owen anymore, they probably don't want to hear about it. Of course his death was tragic, sad, all those things. But he was a massive part of wrestling history, and at the very least the guy deserves to be represented by collectors all over the world...the same as almost everyone else has been. The last time I remember them name dropping Owen was when Booker (or JBL don’t remember) got in trouble cause they said Owen couldn’t fly like that (in reference to I think PACs ability but that’s not how it came off)
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Post by Jackass Pacific on May 15, 2020 19:07:19 GMT -5
oh how nice of her to make a ing t-shirt in his honor. i know we dont know the entire story here, but out of ALL the great wrestlers who have passed away. most (if not all) of which who have had children and families, i dont think any of their widows or surviving family members have been as petty and childish as martha. you think Vickie Guerrero wasn't sad and angry that her husband died at 38 years old? (Owen was 34, btw)....yet here we are 15 years later with figures, merchandise, dvd's, etc. Nothing about Eddie's memory has been tarnished, in fact I'd argue it's kept it as strong as it has because we keep getting things like that. WWE barely mentions Owen anymore, they probably don't want to hear about it. Of course his death was tragic, sad, all those things. But he was a massive part of wrestling history, and at the very least the guy deserves to be represented by collectors all over the world...the same as almost everyone else has been. yea but how many of those wrestlers that passed away fell to their death from the rafters in a stunt gone wrong?
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Post by Nivro™ on May 15, 2020 19:08:26 GMT -5
I understand her feelings towards the situation but Martha really has gone out of her way to make wrestling and its fans completely forget about Owen and make him an afterthought. Shes put the WWE in a position where they cant/dont even want to mention him because they dont want to deal with the headache of having to deal with her. Shes single handedly put Owen in a category with Benoit & Snuka....and look what they're "in" for.
Owen meant a lot to a lot of people both in and out of the wrestling industry and not letting his memory live on at least in some regard, regardless of what it is, is kinda selfish.
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Post by Mongo Bears on May 15, 2020 19:43:18 GMT -5
Maybe storm could do the king of hearts
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 15, 2020 19:59:06 GMT -5
Some pretty awful takes in here, guys.
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Post by jking1979 on May 15, 2020 20:58:45 GMT -5
What about some Who merchandise for Jim "The Anvil" Niedhart?
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Post by marino13 on May 15, 2020 21:14:14 GMT -5
I loved Owen Hart. Even named my son after him. But this is a situation I'm comfortable staying out of. No opinion, just walking away.
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Post by CM Poor on May 15, 2020 21:18:30 GMT -5
Imagine quite literally losing your spouse to their job, and for your troubles, you get to spend the rest of your life having people who like the way your spouse did their job try and dictate the way you're supposed to wade through the process of grieving that loss, coming to terms with it, and living with it for the rest of your days.
I mean, who's even really been slighted here - the widow whose husband plummeted to his death as a result of reckless indifference on the part of his employer, or the collector who doesn't get to put a mass produced plastic representation of said deceased spouse on his shelf?
Some of you are incorrigible.
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Post by CM Tusk on May 15, 2020 22:10:50 GMT -5
Someone is not a terrible person because she won’t give you a wrestling toy of her husband who died because of wrestling.....
It’s a toy.
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Post by Armbar on May 15, 2020 22:43:05 GMT -5
She let WWE release a DVD/Blu Ray not too long ago and now she's making t-shirts for a good cause. I think eventually she'll be more open to signing off on other things but hey... I'm over it.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 22:48:41 GMT -5
oh how nice of her to make a ing t-shirt in his honor. i know we dont know the entire story here, but out of ALL the great wrestlers who have passed away. most (if not all) of which who have had children and families, i dont think any of their widows or surviving family members have been as petty and childish as martha. you think Vickie Guerrero wasn't sad and angry that her husband died at 38 years old? (Owen was 34, btw)....yet here we are 15 years later with figures, merchandise, dvd's, etc. Nothing about Eddie's memory has been tarnished, in fact I'd argue it's kept it as strong as it has because we keep getting things like that. WWE barely mentions Owen anymore, they probably don't want to hear about it. Of course his death was tragic, sad, all those things. But he was a massive part of wrestling history, and at the very least the guy deserves to be represented by collectors all over the world...the same as almost everyone else has been. Martha didn’t like wrestling, she wanted Owen to leave it because he was never home, and she loses him because the company made him do a silly, dangerous, and unnecessary stunt. I don’t blame her one bit and glad she got a lot of money from wwe in the lawsuit. Vickie on the other hand did like wrestling and understood it. Plus her husband didn’t die the same terrible way Owen did.
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Post by Armbar on May 15, 2020 22:52:44 GMT -5
oh how nice of her to make a ing t-shirt in his honor. i know we dont know the entire story here, but out of ALL the great wrestlers who have passed away. most (if not all) of which who have had children and families, i dont think any of their widows or surviving family members have been as petty and childish as martha. you think Vickie Guerrero wasn't sad and angry that her husband died at 38 years old? (Owen was 34, btw)....yet here we are 15 years later with figures, merchandise, dvd's, etc. Nothing about Eddie's memory has been tarnished, in fact I'd argue it's kept it as strong as it has because we keep getting things like that. WWE barely mentions Owen anymore, they probably don't want to hear about it. Of course his death was tragic, sad, all those things. But he was a massive part of wrestling history, and at the very least the guy deserves to be represented by collectors all over the world...the same as almost everyone else has been. Martha didn’t like wrestling, she wanted Owen to leave it because he was never home, and she loses him because the company made him do a silly, dangerous, and unnecessary stunt. I don’t blame her one bit and glad she got a lot of money from wwe in the lawsuit. Vickie on the other hand did like wrestling and understood it. Plus her husband didn’t die the same terrible way Owen did. Good points. Eddie died because of years of drugs and steriods.... Owen death could've been completely avoidable.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 15, 2020 22:54:10 GMT -5
Cursing a widow is a slippery slope no matter the circumstances.
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Post by Sizzle on May 15, 2020 23:35:44 GMT -5
As much as I’d like an Owen Hart figure I think Martha has every right to grieve the way she did. I get that other people that lost their loved ones early because of wrestling did it differently but I think her decision should be respected and she shouldn’t be treated poorly because of it.
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Post by Edge618 on May 16, 2020 0:53:04 GMT -5
oh how nice of her to make a ing t-shirt in his honor. i know we dont know the entire story here, but out of ALL the great wrestlers who have passed away. most (if not all) of which who have had children and families, i dont think any of their widows or surviving family members have been as petty and childish as martha. you think Vickie Guerrero wasn't sad and angry that her husband died at 38 years old? (Owen was 34, btw)....yet here we are 15 years later with figures, merchandise, dvd's, etc. Nothing about Eddie's memory has been tarnished, in fact I'd argue it's kept it as strong as it has because we keep getting things like that. WWE barely mentions Owen anymore, they probably don't want to hear about it. Of course his death was tragic, sad, all those things. But he was a massive part of wrestling history, and at the very least the guy deserves to be represented by collectors all over the world...the same as almost everyone else has been. If my spouse died due to negligence, I wouldn't want the company he worked for to ever make a dime off of him ever again, or have any type of say in what his legacy is or would be. Have a heart, 23 years probably feels like yesterday to her, and to call her petty and childish is disrespectful with what she has gone through.
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Post by The American Daydream on May 16, 2020 3:17:00 GMT -5
It was a fatal and avoidable mistake on EVERY party included. Everyone to include the company, Vince, Owen and anybody who rigged the harness, lines etc.
At any point it could have been tested before the show. At any point if it seemed even remotely unsafe, either party could have opted out. In the end Owen made that choice, albeit not much leeway probably given but what do we really know? Nothing.
Either way, he shouldn't be left to rot in a league with other unmentionables. There's got to be a good middle ground where his name can be discussed historically but not used to make money by WWE. As far as figures go that's gonna be way down the list bc we are the minority and even though I don't like her it's selfish to disagree with the way she processes her grief.
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Post by JP on May 16, 2020 4:35:23 GMT -5
I think a lot of people have lost sight of the reality of this situation here - Owen's death left Martha a widow, and their kids without a father. Sure, maybe she's made some questionable decisions in the time since, but put yourselves in her shoes for just a second - how would you feel about the company responsible for your spouse's death profiting off of their name? I sure as **** wouldn't like it one bit.
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