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Post by greenjack1992 on May 18, 2020 18:10:51 GMT -5
They've stopped searching.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 18:21:54 GMT -5
Yeah. Can’t say I’m hopeful of this story having a happy ending. Damn shame.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on May 18, 2020 21:01:13 GMT -5
This is tragic... Really hope he managed to swim to nearby land, or is still holding on out there & gets found soon.
Rips are horribly dangerous, especially if someone isn't familiar with them or how to safely get out of one. You could be someone with the cardio level of a Seth Rollins or Finn Balor, but trying to escape a rip the wrong way will exhaust you within minutes.
They're a huge deal here in Australia, every Spring & Summer there's always commercials & guides on how to spot them, how to stay calm, and how to escape them.
Every time i've heard something about Shad, it's been good... He's always nice to fans, he stopped that Robbery a few years ago, and now he saved his son's life. He's a kind, selfless man, and a true hero. Really hope he's found safe, 39 years old is way too young.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 21:55:36 GMT -5
So sad if he isn’t alive! 2020 has been a horrible year for all of us!
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Post by ricksnerdlife on May 18, 2020 22:14:33 GMT -5
I'm sorry to sound so cold and heartless, but those of you saying that you hope he's found alive--where? How? It's a sad enough situation without these calls for false, fruitless absurdities. There is faith--and then there's irrational hope.
You're hoping he washed up on an island?
The nearest island is Catalina Beach and is 3 hours from Venice Beach, where he went missing. Can you swim for three hours? In a pool? How about a raging sea?
You're hoping he was pushed somewhere else further down the coast?
You don't think the FIRST thing he would do is call his family to let them know he's okay?
You're hoping he's staying afloat out there, waiting to be rescued? If sharks haven't gotten him, dehydration surely would have, weather dependent, or in the case of the weather's behavior during his search rescue, hypothermia at night. Not to mention, the LONGEST the average person could tread water without a flotation device is 8 hours. That is IF he was still conscious after having been slammed to the seafloor, and drug out to sea--after having been underwater for God knows how long.
It is day two, and the rescuers have stopped looking. He was last spotted at 4 PM *Sunday* before a wave crashed down on top of him. It is now heading into early Tuesday morning.
Again, not to sound heartless, but he has sadly passed away. This call for superheroic feats that are only what you see in the movies is not helpful, it's not realistic, and it's not healthy.
What *I* will hope for is that his body is found so that his family can give him a proper burial. From all accounts, he richly deserves being given his proper respects, and given a rightful resting place.
But let's be real here, folks.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 18, 2020 23:08:48 GMT -5
I'm sorry to sound so cold and heartless, but those of you saying that you hope he's found alive--where? How? It's a sad enough situation without these calls for false, fruitless absurdities. There is faith--and then there's irrational hope. You're hoping he washed up on an island? The nearest island is Catalina Beach and is 3 hours from Venice Beach, where he went missing. Can you swim for three hours? In a pool? How about a raging sea? You're hoping he was pushed somewhere else further down the coast? You don't think the FIRST thing he would do is call his family to let them know he's okay? You're hoping he's staying afloat out there, waiting to be rescued? If sharks haven't gotten him, dehydration surely would have, weather dependent, or in the case of the weather's behavior during his search rescue, hypothermia at night. Not to mention, the LONGEST the average person could tread water without a flotation device is 8 hours. That is IF he was still conscious after having been slammed to the seafloor, and drug out to sea--after having been underwater for God knows how long. It is day two, and the rescuers have stopped looking. He was last spotted at 4 PM *Sunday* before a wave crashed down on top of him. It is now heading into early Tuesday morning. Again, not to sound heartless, but he has sadly passed away. This call for superheroic feats that are only what you see in the movies is not helpful, it's not realistic, and it's not healthy. What *I* will hope for is that his body is found so that his family can give him a proper burial. From all accounts, he richly deserves being given his proper respects, and given a rightful resting place. But let's be real here, folks. Why do you have an issue with people saying that they hope he is ok. They are not saying he is definitely going to make it but it is nice to say they want him to make it. I have never seen someone get mad at people for having hope that someone is alive... Not surprised that the first time I see this is on WFigs message board though...
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Post by ricksnerdlife on May 18, 2020 23:31:09 GMT -5
I'm sorry to sound so cold and heartless, but those of you saying that you hope he's found alive--where? How? It's a sad enough situation without these calls for false, fruitless absurdities. There is faith--and then there's irrational hope. You're hoping he washed up on an island? The nearest island is Catalina Beach and is 3 hours from Venice Beach, where he went missing. Can you swim for three hours? In a pool? How about a raging sea? You're hoping he was pushed somewhere else further down the coast? You don't think the FIRST thing he would do is call his family to let them know he's okay? You're hoping he's staying afloat out there, waiting to be rescued? If sharks haven't gotten him, dehydration surely would have, weather dependent, or in the case of the weather's behavior during his search rescue, hypothermia at night. Not to mention, the LONGEST the average person could tread water without a flotation device is 8 hours. That is IF he was still conscious after having been slammed to the seafloor, and drug out to sea--after having been underwater for God knows how long. It is day two, and the rescuers have stopped looking. He was last spotted at 4 PM *Sunday* before a wave crashed down on top of him. It is now heading into early Tuesday morning. Again, not to sound heartless, but he has sadly passed away. This call for superheroic feats that are only what you see in the movies is not helpful, it's not realistic, and it's not healthy. What *I* will hope for is that his body is found so that his family can give him a proper burial. From all accounts, he richly deserves being given his proper respects, and given a rightful resting place. But let's be real here, folks. Why do you have an issue with people saying that they hope he is ok. They are not saying he is definitely going to make it but it is nice to say they want him to make it. I have never seen someone get mad at people for having hope that someone is alive... Not surprised that the first time I see this is on WFigs message board though... Who is mad? Why am I not surprised that someone would not understand what I am saying on the WFigs forum? Why am I *especially* not surprised that it's you? Hoping for him to be alive given the circumstances is unrealistic. Period. You want to give well wishes? Give it to the family whom is mourning the loss of a husband, a son, a father. Give well wishes to his son, who has to go on living with the fact that his father made sure that HE was safe, sacrificing his own life for his. That young man will need a lifetime of counseling. Give your respects to the departed. As I said-- since you clearly glossed over my post so you can virtue signal and be the first to white knight this thing-- he was by all accounts a wonderful human being. He deserves proper dedications. But to possibly give false hopes to people is unhealthy and unrealistic. You have a problem with that? My DMs are open. It's a crappy situation, and it's only compounded by people like you who live in fantasy land.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on May 18, 2020 23:41:02 GMT -5
I'm sorry to sound so cold and heartless, but those of you saying that you hope he's found alive--where? How? It's a sad enough situation without these calls for false, fruitless absurdities. There is faith--and then there's irrational hope. You're hoping he washed up on an island? The nearest island is Catalina Beach and is 3 hours from Venice Beach, where he went missing. Can you swim for three hours? In a pool? How about a raging sea? You're hoping he was pushed somewhere else further down the coast? You don't think the FIRST thing he would do is call his family to let them know he's okay? You're hoping he's staying afloat out there, waiting to be rescued? If sharks haven't gotten him, dehydration surely would have, weather dependent, or in the case of the weather's behavior during his search rescue, hypothermia at night. Not to mention, the LONGEST the average person could tread water without a flotation device is 8 hours. That is IF he was still conscious after having been slammed to the seafloor, and drug out to sea--after having been underwater for God knows how long. It is day two, and the rescuers have stopped looking. He was last spotted at 4 PM *Sunday* before a wave crashed down on top of him. It is now heading into early Tuesday morning. Again, not to sound heartless, but he has sadly passed away. This call for superheroic feats that are only what you see in the movies is not helpful, it's not realistic, and it's not healthy. What *I* will hope for is that his body is found so that his family can give him a proper burial. From all accounts, he richly deserves being given his proper respects, and given a rightful resting place. But let's be real here, folks. Like Voices said - "Why do you have an issue with people saying that they hope he is ok?" It's nicer to have hope that by some miracle, he's still alive and has a chance at rescue, than to just dismiss him as dead. Why is that such an issue to you? "Let's be real here, folks" The only real thing about your post, is that it did sound COLD, and HEARTLESS. The fact that you typed that, likely proof read it, and still posted it is unbelievable. In addition to what Voices said, NO surprise this came from a WFigs User.
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Post by ricksnerdlife on May 18, 2020 23:50:15 GMT -5
I'm sorry to sound so cold and heartless, but those of you saying that you hope he's found alive--where? How? It's a sad enough situation without these calls for false, fruitless absurdities. There is faith--and then there's irrational hope. You're hoping he washed up on an island? The nearest island is Catalina Beach and is 3 hours from Venice Beach, where he went missing. Can you swim for three hours? In a pool? How about a raging sea? You're hoping he was pushed somewhere else further down the coast? You don't think the FIRST thing he would do is call his family to let them know he's okay? You're hoping he's staying afloat out there, waiting to be rescued? If sharks haven't gotten him, dehydration surely would have, weather dependent, or in the case of the weather's behavior during his search rescue, hypothermia at night. Not to mention, the LONGEST the average person could tread water without a flotation device is 8 hours. That is IF he was still conscious after having been slammed to the seafloor, and drug out to sea--after having been underwater for God knows how long. It is day two, and the rescuers have stopped looking. He was last spotted at 4 PM *Sunday* before a wave crashed down on top of him. It is now heading into early Tuesday morning. Again, not to sound heartless, but he has sadly passed away. This call for superheroic feats that are only what you see in the movies is not helpful, it's not realistic, and it's not healthy. What *I* will hope for is that his body is found so that his family can give him a proper burial. From all accounts, he richly deserves being given his proper respects, and given a rightful resting place. But let's be real here, folks. Like Voices said - "Why do you have an issue with people saying that they hope he is ok?" It's nicer to have hope that by some miracle, he's still alive and has a chance at rescue, than to just dismiss him as dead. Why is that such an issue to you? "Let's be real here, folks" The only real thing about your post, is that it did sound COLD, and HEARTLESS. The fact that you typed that, likely proof read it, and still posted it is unbelievable. In addition to what Voices said, NO surprise this came from a WFigs User. I'm really not surprised at just how low functioning so many users on this site seem to be. Reading comprehension is just so beyond you. Sigh. Would it be great if he were alive? Obviously, yes. But it would be a miracle. No, it would be beyond that, it would be incomprehensible. I don't operate on miracles. I operate in facts. I operate in reality. I operate in all likelihoods. You want to live in your la-la fairyland, where there's nothing but puppies, and rainbows, and no one ever gives you an ounce of news that you might not like? The block feature is in my profile. I suggest you use it. No one is saying that you can't wish for the best. But I asked you, and I'm still waiting on an answer: how? Where do you think he is? Give me ONE realistic scenario in which the man missing in the ocean after 2 days is alive. Do I want to be wrong? Yes. Am I? No. Grow up.
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Post by mad2009 on May 18, 2020 23:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by OTC Waxbender on May 19, 2020 3:25:38 GMT -5
Not sure how somebody turned this into an argument but maybe we can get it cleaned before it gets locked. Even better, maybe the argument will just end peacefully
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Post by The Real Chillary on May 19, 2020 3:58:54 GMT -5
Like Voices said - "Why do you have an issue with people saying that they hope he is ok?" It's nicer to have hope that by some miracle, he's still alive and has a chance at rescue, than to just dismiss him as dead. Why is that such an issue to you? "Let's be real here, folks" The only real thing about your post, is that it did sound COLD, and HEARTLESS. The fact that you typed that, likely proof read it, and still posted it is unbelievable. In addition to what Voices said, NO surprise this came from a WFigs User. I'm really not surprised at just how low functioning so many users on this site seem to be. Reading comprehension is just so beyond you. Sigh. Would it be great if he were alive? Obviously, yes. But it would be a miracle. No, it would be beyond that, it would be incomprehensible. I don't operate on miracles. I operate in facts. I operate in reality. I operate in all likelihoods. You want to live in your la-la fairyland, where there's nothing but puppies, and rainbows, and no one ever gives you an ounce of news that you might not like? The block feature is in my profile. I suggest you use it. No one is saying that you can't wish for the best. But I asked you, and I'm still waiting on an answer: how? Where do you think he is? Give me ONE realistic scenario in which the man missing in the ocean after 2 days is alive. Do I want to be wrong? Yes. Am I? No. Grow up. I'm just going to get reported for trolling again, but jesus I can't believe there are people like you in the world.
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Post by LK3 on May 19, 2020 4:07:07 GMT -5
Like Voices said - "Why do you have an issue with people saying that they hope he is ok?" It's nicer to have hope that by some miracle, he's still alive and has a chance at rescue, than to just dismiss him as dead. Why is that such an issue to you? "Let's be real here, folks" The only real thing about your post, is that it did sound COLD, and HEARTLESS. The fact that you typed that, likely proof read it, and still posted it is unbelievable. In addition to what Voices said, NO surprise this came from a WFigs User. No one is saying that you can't wish for the best. But I asked you, and I'm still waiting on an answer: how? Where do you think he is? Give me ONE realistic scenario in which the man missing in the ocean after 2 days is alive. If no one is saying we can't wish for the best, then why must wishing for the best be dissected to the last detail as irrational and absurd because he's probably not alive? Hoping that he somehow someway is found and lives doesn't anyone thinks that is likely to happen. It's just hoping for something positive, that's all. It's a very sad situation, but I suppose in the end there's nothing that can prevent unnecessary disagreement in a WFigs thread.
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Post by ricksnerdlife on May 19, 2020 6:19:37 GMT -5
I'm really not surprised at just how low functioning so many users on this site seem to be. Reading comprehension is just so beyond you. Sigh. Would it be great if he were alive? Obviously, yes. But it would be a miracle. No, it would be beyond that, it would be incomprehensible. I don't operate on miracles. I operate in facts. I operate in reality. I operate in all likelihoods. You want to live in your la-la fairyland, where there's nothing but puppies, and rainbows, and no one ever gives you an ounce of news that you might not like? The block feature is in my profile. I suggest you use it. No one is saying that you can't wish for the best. But I asked you, and I'm still waiting on an answer: how? Where do you think he is? Give me ONE realistic scenario in which the man missing in the ocean after 2 days is alive. Do I want to be wrong? Yes. Am I? No. Grow up. I'm just going to get reported for trolling again, but jesus I can't believe there are people like you in the world. Good thing you know nothing about me, and I could not possibly care less what you think of me then, huh?
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Post by ricksnerdlife on May 19, 2020 6:39:12 GMT -5
No one is saying that you can't wish for the best. But I asked you, and I'm still waiting on an answer: how? Where do you think he is? Give me ONE realistic scenario in which the man missing in the ocean after 2 days is alive. If no one is saying we can't wish for the best, then why must wishing for the best be dissected to the last detail as irrational and absurd because he's probably not alive? Hoping that he somehow someway is found and lives doesn't anyone thinks that is likely to happen. It's just hoping for something positive, that's all. It's a very sad situation, but I suppose in the end there's nothing that can prevent unnecessary disagreement in a WFigs thread. Oh. No. There are people that are thinking that he will be found alive. Honestly. They're spinning wild tales of lassoing a humpback whale to ride to shore, or other such equal nonsense. Any scenario where you believe he survived is preposterous. That said--It's a sad state of affairs when calling for a little rationale is seen as trolling, or unnecessary disagreement. My dissenting opinion did not start an argument here. Nor did I initiate the insults and name-calling. Was it harsh? Perhaps, but that's reality. It can be cold. The lot of you need to grow up to that. You can hate what happened, and still be honest about the situation. Not sure how that makes me a person that you "can't believe exists", but get over yourselves. I can guarantee I've done more for others in my lifetime than you can even begin to think of as a consideration. My acceptance of reality doesn't make you better than me, so spare me your judgments and condemnations. I can understand the grieving process of denial and bargaining from his loved ones. Not a bunch of people who didn't know him from Adam. Hell, more than half of you don't even really mean your well wishes. They're just platitudes you trot out that you think will earn you "good guy" points--make you look good. Hypocrites. At least I'm honest.
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Post by LK3 on May 19, 2020 7:08:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure which post got to you, as the same kind of things were being said before and after your first post in this thread, but there are better ways to express the reality that he is likely no longer with us. I think everyone understands that.
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Post by JC Motors on May 19, 2020 7:37:04 GMT -5
Since they stopped searching for him, this may be a turn for the worst.
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Post by ricksnerdlife on May 19, 2020 7:51:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure which post got to you, as the same kind of things were being said before and after your first post in this thread, but there are better ways to express the reality that he is likely no longer with us. I think everyone understands that. I'm sure there is. But that's not how I operate. Like I previously said, people are welcome to use their block feature. I'm not going to censor myself or change the way I speak anymore than anyone else here is or would. And I sure as hell ain't going to do it to appease anyone here. I stated the facts as gently as I could. I'm not going to coddle anyone who stubbornly refuses to see my point of view, or demands I be even more gentle.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 19, 2020 7:59:19 GMT -5
Why do you have an issue with people saying that they hope he is ok. They are not saying he is definitely going to make it but it is nice to say they want him to make it. I have never seen someone get mad at people for having hope that someone is alive... Not surprised that the first time I see this is on WFigs message board though... Who is mad? Why am I not surprised that someone would not understand what I am saying on the WFigs forum? Why am I *especially* not surprised that it's you? Hoping for him to be alive given the circumstances is unrealistic. Period. You want to give well wishes? Give it to the family whom is mourning the loss of a husband, a son, a father. Give well wishes to his son, who has to go on living with the fact that his father made sure that HE was safe, sacrificing his own life for his. That young man will need a lifetime of counseling. Give your respects to the departed. As I said-- since you clearly glossed over my post so you can virtue signal and be the first to white knight this thing-- he was by all accounts a wonderful human being. He deserves proper dedications. But to possibly give false hopes to people is unhealthy and unrealistic. You have a problem with that? My DMs are open. It's a crappy situation, and it's only compounded by people like you who live in fantasy land. So if someone finds out they have a terminal illness and they will only live a couple days/ weeks/ months, are people not allowed to hope and wish that they will make it through because it is unrealistic? Dude you obviously have some problems beyond what is going on here. I am sorry if something bad happened in your life that does not allow you to just say the phrase "I hope he is ok." I doubt any of us saying that are sitting here thinking his chances are good. I am saying I hope he makes it because I sincerely WISH that for the guy, but I know that he probably and unfortunately didn't make it. But there is still NOTHING wrong with saying that I wish or hope that he did make it. Also, who am I giving false hope to? I am not talking to his family. And if his family is actually reading this, then I am sorry that they had to come across your insincere comment at a time like this.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on May 19, 2020 8:10:21 GMT -5
Who is mad? Why am I not surprised that someone would not understand what I am saying on the WFigs forum? Why am I *especially* not surprised that it's you? Hoping for him to be alive given the circumstances is unrealistic. Period. You want to give well wishes? Give it to the family whom is mourning the loss of a husband, a son, a father. Give well wishes to his son, who has to go on living with the fact that his father made sure that HE was safe, sacrificing his own life for his. That young man will need a lifetime of counseling. Give your respects to the departed. As I said-- since you clearly glossed over my post so you can virtue signal and be the first to white knight this thing-- he was by all accounts a wonderful human being. He deserves proper dedications. But to possibly give false hopes to people is unhealthy and unrealistic. You have a problem with that? My DMs are open. It's a crappy situation, and it's only compounded by people like you who live in fantasy land. So if someone finds out they have a terminal illness and they will only live a couple days/ weeks/ months, are people not allowed to hope and wish that they will make it through because it is unrealistic? Dude you obviously have some problems beyond what is going on here. I am sorry if something bad happened in your life that does not allow you to just say the phrase "I hope he is ok." I doubt any of us saying that are sitting here thinking his chances are good. I am saying I hope he makes it because I sincerely WISH that for the guy, but I know that he probably and unfortunately didn't make it. But there is still NOTHING wrong with saying that I wish or hope that he did make it. Also, who am I giving false hope to? I am not talking to his family. And if his family is actually reading this, then I am sorry that they had to come across your insincere comment at a time like this. Nation. All of that.
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