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Post by The Coach on May 28, 2020 21:39:29 GMT -5
I’m loving the prototypes of this new AEW line, however, I find myself really hoping the elbow articulation doesn’t look out of place in person. This leads to my question, what is the absolute PERFECT articulation? Is it the new AEW line? Is it Mattel Elites? Mattel Ultimates? Is it the original Mattel Basic articulation? Is it Deluxe Aggression? Ruthless Aggression? TNA Toybiz? I think the Mattel Elites have the best currently and of all time as far as playability and pose-ability. I get as if the TNA Toybiz line, despite having great details, were just overly articulated. Everything form elbows, knees shoulders, toes, hands, etc. had multiple articulation points. It was too much in my opinion. What’s your opinion on the matter?
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on May 28, 2020 21:59:14 GMT -5
I love the Mattel elite articulation, but I'd say something like the Ultimate edition line is far superior in terms of articulation. However, some tweaks need to be done with those torsos. There's just too much overhang and they look unnatural as opposed to something like Storm Collectibles. I guess overall, my favorite articulation would be from the upcoming Hollywood Hogan, it has the addition of butterfly joints.
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Post by KiwiKiller on May 28, 2020 22:19:42 GMT -5
I love the Mattel elite articulation, but I'd say something like the Ultimate edition line is far superior in terms of articulation. However, some tweaks need to be done with those torsos. There's just too much overhang and they look unnatural as opposed to something like Storm Collectibles. I guess overall, my favorite articulation would be from the upcoming Hollywood Hogan, it has the addition of butterfly joints. The mattel Elite articulation would be perfect IMO if they just had softer joints. I don't get why they use such hard plastic. |
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Post by stc13 on May 29, 2020 8:16:17 GMT -5
Marvel Legends is probably the pinnacle for me right now. The joints are always very fluid, chest joints aren't overly noticeable, and they don't mind including butterfly joints when it makes sense for the character.
My biggest issue with the Elite line are the original ratchet hips. I feel like more often than not the legs are nearly immobile, or spring back to a limited range of motion. But I do prefer the cleaner look of the Elite torsos to the clunky looking Ultimates.
I like that AEW was able to make more fluid looking torsos without as much pronounced overhang. And the double jointed elbows should be a big plus. I'm still a little concerned about how pronounced the shoulder and elbow pins look in the protos, but I'm willing to hold off judgment until we see final samples.
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Post by Bandalero on May 29, 2020 8:31:09 GMT -5
I don't have them in-hand but by all reviews I've viewed on youtube, the G.I. Joe 6' Classified line looks to be the ultimate in perfect action figure articulation - Hasbro has somehow improved on their Marvel Legends articulation for these Joes. Fwoosh did a review on Roadblock where he took off his flak jacket so you can see the torso - mattel-style torso, butterfly shoulders, ball join neck, double elbows - and by all accounts they move fluidly. I hope Jazwares follows suit with AEW figures. Their 6' Fortnite line is fun, but the joints are pretty stiff.
Around the 11:40 marK
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Post by Yambag Jones on May 29, 2020 10:50:50 GMT -5
The only line I currently collect is Mattel Elites. The fact that I have a lot of the original ones and they hold up 10 years later is very, very impressive.
I'm eager to get my hands on an Unrivaled figure (Bubbly Jericho might be the one at this point) and see how it matches up. The two things that have bugged me are how (seemingly) inconsistent the chest swivel makes figures look and the obvious shoulder joint (that dot seems so unnatural and out of place).
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 14:50:17 GMT -5
I don't have them in-hand but by all reviews I've viewed on youtube, the G.I. Joe 6' Classified line looks to be the ultimate in perfect action figure articulation - Hasbro has somehow improved on their Marvel Legends articulation for these Joes. Fwoosh did a review on Roadblock where he took off his flak jacket so you can see the torso - mattel-style torso, butterfly shoulders, ball join neck, double elbows - and by all accounts they move fluidly. I hope Jazwares follows suit with AEW figures. Their 6' Fortnite line is fun, but the joints are pretty stiff. Around the 11:40 marK That's the kind of articulation I want to be standard for wrestling figures. Hopefully we get it for the UE figures (or Hasbro gets the license back) and future AEW figures. |
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Post by PJ on May 29, 2020 18:02:51 GMT -5
I loved the DCUC articulation. But if they had used the WWE Elite articulation that would have been perfect for me.
Articulation I don’t like...
Butterfly joints - I hate the way butterfly joints look on all figures minus a figure like Wolverine where the shoulder pads hide the total awkwardness of the joint. Although the render of the UE Hogan looks great. I want to see if the final product is as good.
the Rocker waist - the waist on the Jazwares figures look awkward. It looks really bad on the Moxley. It like they aren’t deep enough on them. (Although they are great on the McFarlane DC figures)
Drop down hips - they make the figures feel so frail. That is my biggest complaint with imports like Mafex & Figuarts. It really pissed me off when DCC started using them on their Icons line.
finger and toe articulation - the fingers always look awkward. And I just don’t need toe articulation.
Articulation I can take or leave...
Double jointed elbows - to me they always look awkward if both sides of the joint are bent. With wrestling the elbow pads hide it. But with ML it either has to be posed with one side bent to look right.
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Post by neptuneandtheblues on Jul 18, 2020 8:50:42 GMT -5
I purchased one Fortnite figure (it looked like Cobra's Firefly) and was highly impressed with the quality of articulation. Fluid, strong, and an impressive amount. Some of the best I've seen. Star Wars Black Series and Marvel Legends articulation has been improving within the last year or two. The biggest issue with WWE Elites is the ankle. They always seem as though they'll snap if moved. I don't even try to move them anymore.
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Post by lu21780 on Jul 18, 2020 20:33:22 GMT -5
Mattel Ultimates and now these AEW figure articulation is the best for me right now i could do without the toe joint though.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Jul 19, 2020 1:49:56 GMT -5
I'd say out of all my wrestling figures, the UE Ronda is the best. But even she has issues.
I am so very sick of WWE Figures and their ankle joints. They are NEVER right. EVER. Either too stiff, too loose, or they just look bad. My Ronda stands crooked because one ankle is good while the other suffers from peg-extension issues. I hate the WWE ankle joints with a purple passion.
That said, as much as I love the ML figures, I have a heck of a time getting them to stand. The articulation on them is great, but they are just too flimsy (at least the ladies frequently are). I've had issues with the few women's MLs I own not standing because their tiny knees and ankles don't hold their torsos up. And I wish I could find proper stands for them that I can afford!
As for different points of articulation, I love double jointed knees and elbows, and as I said, the women's elite joints are nice. I don't have any experience with UE Men's, but ML Men's ab joints are better than WWE Elite Ab Joints.
I guess I've yet to find the perfect articulation on a single figure yet.
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Post by czw4life on Jul 22, 2020 8:18:54 GMT -5
I got my bubbly jericho yesterday and I am loving the articulation more than elites. That extra waist joint really makes a huge difference! Makes the figure feel more fluid which is essential for playing. Only thing I don't like about the Jazewares articulation is the "click" shoulder joints.
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Post by sandeep on Jul 22, 2020 8:30:25 GMT -5
  This is how a natural a 20$ torso looks. Moreover Hasbro ankle joint is awsum mattle is using same old one with minimal to no pivot. |
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Post by The Coach on Jul 22, 2020 9:15:07 GMT -5
This is how a natural a 20$ torso looks. Moreover Hasbro ankle joint is awsum mattle is using same old one with minimal to no pivot. I think AEW is doing this joint well, as well. Bubbly Jericho looks great in online reviews. |
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Post by sandeep on Jul 22, 2020 9:45:50 GMT -5
This is how a natural a 20$ torso looks. Moreover Hasbro ankle joint is awsum mattle is using same old one with minimal to no pivot. I think AEW is doing this joint well, as well. Bubbly Jericho looks great in online reviews. AEW is lacking in toe articulation rest is almost all the other articulation is present on a 20$ figure |
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Post by bababooey on Jul 22, 2020 11:16:22 GMT -5
I think AEW is doing this joint well, as well. Bubbly Jericho looks great in online reviews. AEW is lacking in toe articulation rest is almost all the other articulation is present on a 20$ figure I generally despise toe articulation. The only time I’m ok with it is when they make a way for the articulation to stop when the foot is flat. I recently got UE Cena and Becky and the toe articulation is easily the worst part of those figures to me. |
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Post by The Coach on Jul 22, 2020 13:00:34 GMT -5
AEW is lacking in toe articulation rest is almost all the other articulation is present on a 20$ figure I generally despise toe articulation. The only time I’m ok with it is when they make a way for the articulation to stop when the foot is flat. I recently got UE Cena and Becky and the toe articulation is easily the worst part of those figures to me. I absolutely despise toe articulation. I get it, it's realistic, but I think it's just too much extra that is hard to nail down for most lines that attempt it. |
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