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Post by bWo on May 30, 2020 15:47:28 GMT -5
So are we talking about this on here?
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Post by Mongo Bears on May 30, 2020 16:01:27 GMT -5
I hope not
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on May 30, 2020 16:26:01 GMT -5
As nonsensical as racism is, so too is mindless violence under the guise of protest.
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Post by bad guy™ on May 30, 2020 16:56:41 GMT -5
Went to the Pittsburgh rally today in solidarity. Some harsh words from anti protesters, and my group (the ones who stayed behind to take notes for any legal issues) came across Klansmen in full garb, but we ignored them and moved along.
I had to dip though. Outside interference showed up and molotoved an empty cop car and tried beating police horses. I urged my close ones to do the same. Dunno if it was ANTIFA or the Proud Boys (seeing as they were all men from what I could tell), but I just know something is going to happen. It's the same as Minneapolis. Things were fine till that rogue who got in with the protest torched the AutoZone.
The crime that was committed in Minneapolis was irreprehencible. The murderer deserves to take a dive, especially since he was involved in another minority murder ten years ago. Anyone who knows me knows my stances on these matters. I'm not going to debate or argue them, because they're parts of me that define me. Won't change.
I'll leave this open for now. But the second I see ANY racist remark, jokes about death, or any trolling, the thread goes and so does everyone else involved in what caused the downfall. Ya hear?
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Post by rkfastmo on May 30, 2020 17:54:22 GMT -5
Far be it from me to legislate how anyone should feel or "properly" show their emotions. But acts of violence, antagonism, vandalism, theft, etc. is not the way to advance agendas in a positive manner. Those out creating havoc are not only hurting neighborhoods. They are digging the divisions even deeper and creating the platforms that hurt the original cause, making the case for more militarization of local law enforcement instead of a de-escalation in tension and distrust in the community.
And it has been suggested that outside forces, domestic and foreign, have seized upon this opportunity to further divide this nation. So whether people are working toward their own self-serving goals of anarchy or undermining righteous causes, or if they are seizing upon this moment to exercise mischief, please don't allow these images distract you or make you dismiss the honest calls for criminal and social equality. And understand many more people out there sincerely want a better society for EVERYONE.
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Post by JC Motors on May 30, 2020 18:09:55 GMT -5
These threads never end well
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Post by drifter on May 30, 2020 18:21:36 GMT -5
It is just sad to see this happening. It's another case, of people, taking a serious incident, that needs to be brought to the forefront, and hi-jacking it, as an excuse, to cause mayhem, or try to further their own messed up agendas. I guarantee a good chuck of the rioters (mainly the people looting), don't really give a crap that a man was killed, they just see it as an opening to go wild. And the problem is that the protesters, the ones that are trying to get this kind of stuff to stop, are getting lumped in with rioters, which is not right. I saw one story of a group of people in California that vandalized a parked UPS truck, and then stole packages from it. People that do that, don't give a crap about finding justice for a murdered man. At least it's looking like that cop will face the punishment for what he did. He was clearly a bad cop, and the type that gives cops in general a bad name, it's just sad that it took the loss of someone's life for him to be taken down.
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Post by Tim of thee on May 30, 2020 18:25:13 GMT -5
What’s a Covid-19?
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Post by Nivro™ on May 30, 2020 18:34:56 GMT -5
This isnt going to end well.... The death was uncalled for. The violent & destructive reactions are also uncalled for. Its a no win situation for both sides yet because of both sides, everyone will ultimately lose. Spaceship?
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Post by drifter on May 30, 2020 18:56:09 GMT -5
With the way 2020 is going, I swear, when a new month starts, I just worry what the hell is going to happen next, because you think, ok, worst is behind us, but then it's something new.
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Post by FLUX '97 on May 30, 2020 22:06:34 GMT -5
One arrest down, three to go.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on May 31, 2020 0:10:22 GMT -5
This is something that literally anyone with the slightest bit of common sense can agree was reprehensible and those cops should be charged to fullest extent of the law. People are pissed off, as they should be. That being said though, what does robbing and burning down people’s businesses achieve? This is past the point of protesting for justice. Now people are just using his death as an excuse to steal TVs and cause mayhem.
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Post by FLUX '97 on May 31, 2020 0:28:02 GMT -5
This is something that literally anyone with the slightest bit of common sense can agree was reprehensible and those cops should be charged to fullest extent of the law. People are pissed off, as they should be. That being said though, what does robbing and burning down people’s businesses achieve? This is past the point of protesting for justice. Now people are just using his death as an excuse to steal TVs and cause mayhem. Makes you wonder why a reporter who was just doing his job was arrested before the murderer was arrested, huh?
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Post by Nivro™ on May 31, 2020 1:47:38 GMT -5
This is something that literally anyone with the slightest bit of common sense can agree was reprehensible and those cops should be charged to fullest extent of the law. People are pissed off, as they should be. That being said though, what does robbing and burning down people’s businesses achieve? This is past the point of protesting for justice. Now people are just using his death as an excuse to steal TVs and cause mayhem. People want the execution before the trial. That's not how the justice system works. Here's the thing, Ive been put in the same type of restraint at one time. My step father is a retired highway patrol officer, he showed us (my brother and I) about different procedures to restrain someone. You physically cannot fight back or get up with a knee in the back of your neck. While the pressure wasnt the same, at no point is there any asphyxiation in that maneuver. When I asked a couple of county cop friends of mine about the situation they said and I paraphrase, "What happened was unnecessary & inexcusable especially with him already being cuffed...but the knee to the back of the neck isnt what killed him" Everyone was calling for 1st degree murder and ready to bury all 4 cops. All 4 should be charged (I put that part in bold because Wfigs tends to have selective reading), all 4 should likely have different charges. There needs to be an investigation, there needs to be an autopsy and there needs to be an independent autopsy and THEN you follow the proper procedures to arrest the officers. If the independent autopsy gives the same results as the ME's does and the victim did have underlying medical conditions what I think happened was that they were flared up by the stress/distress that he was under and it ultimately led to his demise. The charges for the officer will be altered which he will be found guilty of but will be much less then then a sentence of 1st degree murder. I honestly expect the other officers to get much lesser charges and wouldnt be surprised if none at all. Ultimately the main officer will be charged and sentenced.... and this is where Ill put my tin hat on. He'll be charged simply for what I call the "OJ factor". Majority on this board arent old enough to remember Rodney King & OJ trials, everyone knew that OJ either committed or was involved in those murders but they also knew what reaction was going to be if found guilty. I remember clearly everyone saying he was going to get off with it because they didnt want LA to riot again like they did after the Rodney King case. This will be the same way. They will make sure someone does time (as deserved) to keep the peace but its not going to be, nor should it be, the extremes of the charges that some want for the officer.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 4:34:21 GMT -5
About time people fight back sick of police thugs getting away with everything
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Post by Edgehead on May 31, 2020 6:53:12 GMT -5
From someone who lives in a country where the police are respectable, does their job, and are generally friendly and aren't ego tripping, trigger happy killers... Lol. Get your crap together America.
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Post by Nick the Quick on May 31, 2020 7:35:06 GMT -5
There is no excuse for racism or senseless acts of violence. Both cause way too many unnecessary problems.
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Post by Decky on May 31, 2020 8:14:32 GMT -5
From someone who lives in a country where the police are respectable, does their job, and are generally friendly and aren't ego tripping, trigger happy killers... Lol. Get your crap together America. I've always felt that to want to join the Police in ANY country, a certain amount of ego has to be involved.
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Post by bWo on May 31, 2020 9:00:51 GMT -5
About time people fight back sick of police thugs getting away with everything So you "fight back" by destroying everything in your path and robbing and looting stores that had nothing to do with what happened?
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Post by bWo on May 31, 2020 9:08:49 GMT -5
This is something that literally anyone with the slightest bit of common sense can agree was reprehensible and those cops should be charged to fullest extent of the law. People are pissed off, as they should be. That being said though, what does robbing and burning down people’s businesses achieve? This is past the point of protesting for justice. Now people are just using his death as an excuse to steal TVs and cause mayhem. Makes you wonder why a reporter who was just doing his job was arrested before the murderer was arrested, huh? He was told by police to move from the location he was in. They kept saying they were from CNN and were on tv and had credentials and all kinds of things that are irrelevant because there's a riot going on and the police told you to move. The irony is of course CNN spent segment after segment scolding the police, and then when the riots hit CNN HQ in Atlanta, the police were the ones protecting their building as their reporter hid behind them safely trying to cover the destruction.
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