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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 9, 2020 10:23:38 GMT -5
Pretty obvious Darby shows up and costs Cage the match with Mox. As for Cody going heel, just who is he supposed to attack/antagonize to do so? Can't be the crowd, lol. Cassidy? His Elite pals? That Cody question is great. I think he'd have to brutally attack someone like OC or Darby.
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Post by K5 on Jul 9, 2020 10:53:51 GMT -5
Pretty obvious Darby shows up and costs Cage the match with Mox. As for Cody going heel, just who is he supposed to attack/antagonize to do so? Can't be the crowd, lol. Cassidy? His Elite pals? That Cody question is great. I think he'd have to brutally attack someone like OC or Darby. maybe the blood and guts match, when we finally get it?!
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Post by kinnikuman on Jul 9, 2020 11:54:58 GMT -5
I guess he could align himself with Jericho, but that still doesn't scream heel to me. The new 4 Horsemen tease isn't much of a heel thing either as they would be super over. He was successful as a heel in the Bullet Club but that was a different promotion and culture. In other words, at least at this point in AEW storytelling, I don't think you can turn him heel.
Attack his brother? Kayfabe attack his wife? Now you're getting somewhere.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 9, 2020 12:38:58 GMT -5
I guess he could align himself with Jericho, but that still doesn't scream heel to me. The new 4 Horsemen tease isn't much of a heel thing either as they would be super over. He was successful as a heel in the Bullet Club but that was a different promotion and culture. In other words, at least at this point in AEW storytelling, I don't think you can turn him heel. Attack his brother? Kayfabe attack his wife? Now you're getting somewhere. Another Cody/Dustin match if Cody burns that bridge, would be stellar. I like your brain, my guy! lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 13:06:30 GMT -5
If you're going for the mega MJF style heel then yeah that's absolutely the way to do it.
Personally I'd rather Cody in more of a tweener heel type situation, which is where I think it's heading. The new 4 horsemen would be over a.f., but ultimately would act as a heel to some and a face to others. The whole story with the new horsemen (be it hangman or spears it works either way) would be old school vs. new school essentially. 'Flippy indie darlings' vs. 'old school wrasslin'. As someone who immensely enjoys both those types of wrestling I'd be all over that feud having the time of my life lol. Bullet Club was also over a.f. and still very much a heel group. Though, as was pointed out, different promotion and culture which for sure affects that.
Watching some old dynamites Cody has done so many little heel things, we just keep cheering him for it haha. FTR is technically operating like a heel group, but I'm cheering for them every step of the way. I like those types of heels. I loved Jesse Ventura on commentary, and two of my favourites as a kid were Mr. Perfect and Ted DeBiase. Heel Cody to me works best in that type of a heel role, rather than a MJF absolute scumbag heel role.
Also, the Darby costing Cage thing makes perfect sense, but god I hope it's wrong. I'll be so choked if that match ends up in a screwjob finish.
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Post by K5 on Jul 9, 2020 13:06:30 GMT -5
just have him sign a deal with the devil (jericho?) that IF he does a heinous act (betray someone etc) than he can go for the heavyweight title again. have one of his best friends be champ...and voila
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 9, 2020 14:09:46 GMT -5
^4th great match next week for FTR, loved them in NXT, will be even better here in the long term. Cody is 100% turning Heel, FTR work best as Heels, Spears i can take or leave but that group for sure works. If they're going to run the 4 Horsemen, Hangman has to be the 4th. I'd be bummed if it's Spears.
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Post by shenmue on Jul 9, 2020 15:12:15 GMT -5
^Totally,I feel like an idiot for not mentioning hangman when i posted about the horsemen, for some reason i just didn't. My bad lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 15:23:32 GMT -5
Ratings came in. 715k total which is down, but .29 in demo which was up (.01 but hey still counts lol.). Finished 7th overall. Given the title match was rescheduled I'd say that's still pretty darn good. I'm excited to see the quarter breakdowns when they become available, same with Canadian ratings. (I know no one cares but I'm a numbers geek I like finding out 🤓
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 9, 2020 15:39:44 GMT -5
Ratings came in. 715k total which is down, but .29 in demo which was up (.01 but hey still counts lol.). Finished 7th overall. Given the title match was rescheduled I'd say that's still pretty darn good. I'm excited to see the quarter breakdowns when they become available, same with Canadian ratings. (I know no one cares but I'm a numbers geek I like finding out 🤓 I'd love to know the dvr & streaming (Hulu next day etc) numbers too.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 9, 2020 16:36:20 GMT -5
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Post by kinnikuman on Jul 9, 2020 16:43:08 GMT -5
Hangman def fits the Windham role in the Horsemen but I dunno, I really like the Kenny/Hangman team. I know they can't tag forever, but they really are an excellent duo. Let em keep the straps for a while.
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Post by K5 on Jul 9, 2020 16:46:47 GMT -5
I feel that though Hangman fits the horsemen, Spears NEEDS it. he’s in a crap or get off the toilet situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 16:54:17 GMT -5
I feel that though Hangman fits the horsemen, Spears NEEDS it. he’s in a crap or get off the toilet situation. I've been enjoying Spears since they started the glove thing, which I originally assumed was a Windham nod. They have to capitalize on it more. He was close with the chairman then it fell, the tag partner thing started interesting then it fell. This is picking up steam, gotta keep this one going and turn it into something more. Having him and Tully watching FTR last night fit that agenda too. I agree with you, as much as I would prefer Hangman for my own fandom reasons, Spears could benefit from that role a lot more. Hangman is perfectly over all by himself.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 9, 2020 16:55:51 GMT -5
I feel that though Hangman fits the horsemen, Spears NEEDS it. he’s in a crap or get off the toilet situation. Spears is on Dark where he belongs. He was RED HOT after the chair spot with Cody and did nothing with it. As far as in ring goes, he peaks at 3 stars. He’s an undercard guy.
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Post by K5 on Jul 9, 2020 18:18:49 GMT -5
I feel that though Hangman fits the horsemen, Spears NEEDS it. he’s in a crap or get off the toilet situation. Spears is on Dark where he belongs. He was RED HOT after the chair spot with Cody and did nothing with it. As far as in ring goes, he peaks at 3 stars. He’s an undercard guy. I mean, I hear ya, but I don’t believe in pulling out of investments after a few falters. I think that, just like Brody, there’s been a few missteps in his development and it’s more on AEW than him. like what happened to his tag team? why book him in that tournament just to lose to Cody again? bad booking imo.
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Post by shenmue on Jul 9, 2020 18:39:28 GMT -5
Spears is spearing the hot one from the iiconics, can't feel too sorry for him.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jul 9, 2020 19:38:24 GMT -5
I feel that though Hangman fits the horsemen, Spears NEEDS it. he’s in a crap or get off the toilet situation. Spears is on Dark where he belongs. He was RED HOT after the chair spot with Cody and did nothing with it. As far as in ring goes, he peaks at 3 stars. He’s an undercard guy. He is Def an undercard, jobber to the stars guy. He has gotten a ton of opportunities and does nothing with it. Even in that dark episode he got completely upstaged by Brian Pillman Jr.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 9, 2020 19:44:53 GMT -5
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Post by BaLoR RoLLiNS on Jul 9, 2020 23:04:34 GMT -5
Why not...
Cody Hangman FTR
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