Mclovin
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Post by Mclovin on Jul 5, 2020 21:07:26 GMT -5
I've always wondered this. Does anybody know the reason why WWE uses actual ropes wrapped in tape when just about every other promotion in history uses steel cable inside of rubber. Ropes are easier to run into, considering they don't break. But cables are more stable for high flying moves. Hell if your running into cabels just slow down a bit and it won't hurt. But if you're a big guy the ropes are liable to snap. It's a weird thing I've never understood, but I have a feeling that with all of the outside wrestlers that make up the roster they will change to cables.
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Post by BØRNS on Jul 5, 2020 21:29:29 GMT -5
I think it's just the look they like.
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voicesinmyhead
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jul 5, 2020 21:49:36 GMT -5
I've always wondered this. Does anybody know the reason why WWE uses actual ropes wrapped in tape when just about every other promotion in history uses steel cable inside of rubber. Ropes are easier to run into, considering they don't break. But cables are more stable for high flying moves. Hell if your running into cabels just slow down a bit and it won't hurt. But if you're a big guy the ropes are liable to snap. It's a weird thing I've never understood, but I have a feeling that with all of the outside wrestlers that make up the roster they will change to cables. Why would they all of a sudden change to cables? There is no reason to change to cables. Wwe has a top notch production team and they know how to build a solid ring. No one is complaining about their rope use. It’s not like how talent complained about TNAs six sided ring. |
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Post by k5 on Jul 6, 2020 10:11:02 GMT -5
wcw used elevator cables, which were arguably far too tight, and the reason that foley lost his ear getting tangled in them fighting Vader in Germany.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Jul 6, 2020 10:37:24 GMT -5
Having worked in both, the cables wrapped in plastic and tape feel better when you go off them, rope is a little rougher but they are also thicker. Look wise the cables look "flimsier" if that makes any sense.
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Post by JTG on Jul 6, 2020 13:26:55 GMT -5
I know some other promotions have used actual ropes in the past as well, but I feel like brand-wise the use of ropes is synonymous with the WWF/WWE look & feel of their ring setup.
I can't see why they would ever change to use cables unless they wanted one of their shows to have a distinctly different look...which again I doubt they would ever do since they're all about the WWE brand.
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Retrospect
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Post by Retrospect on Jul 6, 2020 19:08:55 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure this is something that dates back to the wwwf days. Same with the 20x20 ring. I think it’s one of those ‘if it ain’t broke don’t fix it’ kind of thing.
Ive also noticed that the northern territories all used ropes back in the day (WWWF, Stampede, AWA) while the southern ones used cables. I’m not quite sure why tho.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Jul 6, 2020 22:16:28 GMT -5
Ropes were always better to hit and jump off of imo
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Jul 6, 2020 23:04:30 GMT -5
I think it's more of a status too. It's cheaper for other companies to have cables to maintain. With the money WWE makes they can support real ropes, since they have the income to switch them out more often.
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Post by Lucas Legacy on Jul 7, 2020 23:03:06 GMT -5
This is by far one of the most interesting threads I've seen in a long, long time.
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Post by bWo on Jul 7, 2020 23:38:42 GMT -5
I've always wondered this. Does anybody know the reason why WWE uses actual ropes wrapped in tape when just about every other promotion in history uses steel cable inside of rubber. Ropes are easier to run into, considering they don't break. But cables are more stable for high flying moves. Hell if your running into cabels just slow down a bit and it won't hurt. But if you're a big guy the ropes are liable to snap. It's a weird thing I've never understood, but I have a feeling that with all of the outside wrestlers that make up the roster they will change to cables. They've been using these ropes for decades. There were no "spring board" onto the top rope moves back then. Most high fly moves came off the turnbuckles, or guys would slingshot themselves over the ropes. In that case the loose ropes would make things easier. The cables allow for that "spring board" attack to take place anywhere on the ropes because it's tight. In WWE you never see guys try it from the middle of the ropes because they'll be to flimsy and the guys will fall. You always see them pull themselves up to the top rope within a few feet of a turnbuckle because the ropes are tighter in that area. Undertaker walking the ropes is even more impressive when you consider he did it in a WWE ring. Lance Archer walks the ropes in AEW. He wouldn't be able to do that in a WWE ring with their ropes. |
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Post by JC Motors on Jul 8, 2020 18:12:29 GMT -5
wcw used elevator cables, which were arguably far too tight, and the reason that foley lost his ear getting tangled in them fighting Vader in Germany. Who thought elevator cables would be a good idea? |
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Post by greenjack1992 on Aug 3, 2020 9:33:58 GMT -5
I've wrestled in rings with both. Ropes are soooooo much better.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 3, 2020 11:11:46 GMT -5
Wasn't it to do with the fact that the WWWF had bigger wrestlers than other companies??
In the other territories the wrestlers were smaller so they jumped off the ropes more frequently. In the WWWF and then WWF, the only guy I can think of that jumped off the ropes is Jimmy Snuka. Everyone else just used them to run off of or as a weapon.
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Post by †hê Jå§ðñ Wïllïåm§ on Aug 4, 2020 0:52:46 GMT -5
I've wrestled in rings with both. Ropes are soooooo much better. I was just gonna say something like this. If you want them to use cables, how about you run the ropes (and then cables) and see how you feel afterwards. |
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Post by Retrospect on Aug 4, 2020 15:36:11 GMT -5
I've wrestled in rings with both. Ropes are soooooo much better. Ive never been in a wrestling ring before so excuse my question but why are the ropes better? Are they just easier on you when you bounce off them? |
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Post by greenjack1992 on Aug 4, 2020 17:16:32 GMT -5
I've wrestled in rings with both. Ropes are soooooo much better. Ive never been in a wrestling ring before so excuse my question but why are the ropes better? Are they just easier on you when you bounce off them? They have more give when you hit them and I think they're easier to grip because of the ridges. You can also use the ropes more creatively than you can with the cables - spots like tying up your opponent in the ropes is easier, less painful and safer with the ropes, and spots like the bottom rope guillotine look better on the ropes than on the cables and are more fun to sell. Even when it's a work, getting hung on the cables winds you whereas the ropes - even though you're still sore when the adrenaline wears off - aren't nearly as stiff. |
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Aug 5, 2020 1:38:44 GMT -5
Actual ropes existed first and were used in WWWF. Keeping the “Bull rope” ropes(as I like to call them) sticks with tradition. Vince never knew anything different most likely. I never got to wrestle except in cable rope rings, so I don’t know much about the workings of them.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Aug 5, 2020 7:23:36 GMT -5
Running into rope, sounds a lot more appealing than running into steel cable.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Aug 5, 2020 18:09:09 GMT -5
For whatever reason, this thread makes me want to stake the claim that Taker is the GOAT at hitting the ropes.
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