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Post by toki on Jul 15, 2020 21:13:44 GMT -5
yikes, lotta hate for tonight's episode it sounds like? I only tuned in 20 mins ago.. I don't subscribe to the 'cage must win' logic, but i would like to see it. I feel like Mox almost needs the title for a bit longer for true legitimacy. he's been fed some imposing characters, bring in a heel Omega I really liked tonight outside of a couple spots. I really dunno why this thread is so negative tonight the first few matches were a bit sloppy, the jericho segment was the most wwe thing they've done yet, the horsemen tease was overly blatant tonight, alex marvez was on screen, nightmare sisters belonged on dark, vickie is nyla's manager for what reason?, and personally i really did NOT want mox to win. the six-man tag stuff and darby returning were the only real positives for me tonight. oh, and ivelisse being announced. i'm always on here talking up aew, but not this time. the show actually dragged for the first time since i can remember. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 15, 2020 21:15:43 GMT -5
Well the majority seem to have liked the show elsewhere too. Looking across some other forums etc everything was largely positive. #1 trending in America and Canada on twitter. Well I enjoyed it. Hyped for Ivelisse vs. Diamante next week. I was hoping for them against Brandi/Allie since that was the theory/rumour I had heard, but I'd much rather just see them bang it out against each other so this is much better. I really hope they're both actually #allelite. If warhorse shows up next week for Cody I'll be pretty pumped. I hadn't watched him before but after Arn mentioned it I went and looked him up. 80's heavy metal rocker who has a DIY setup in his garage gym?! My kinda dude. I think I might stay away from this thread next week though lol. My feed is always like 2-4 minutes behind so I'm always playing catchup on here, and goddamn does that negativity take the fun out of a show if I'm enjoying it. Constructive criticism is one thing but man, this was kinda toxic tonight. Don’t let any criticisms take away from your enjoyment. Enjoy what you enjoy, my guy! |
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Post by BaLoR RoLLiNS on Jul 15, 2020 21:17:04 GMT -5
Most may hate this, but get that AEW title back on Jericho is best.
Moxley has sucked. Brodie nor Cage can beat him.
Kenny cant turn soon enough.
Bucks beat Hang/Kenny. Kenny snaps...ish. goes solo. Defeats Mox or Jericho and we get The Cleaner we have ALL been waiting for
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 15, 2020 21:19:10 GMT -5
I didn’t mind the finish to Mox/Cage. It’s a hell of a lot better than a DQ or distraction finish that gets spammed elsewhere. No interference and the manager looked out for his client. Solid finish.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 21:20:25 GMT -5
Most may hate this, but get that AEW title back on Jericho is best. Moxley has sucked. Brodie nor Cage can beat him. Kenny cant turn soon enough. Bucks beat Hang/Kenny. Kenny snaps...ish. goes solo. Defeats Mox or Jericho and we get The Cleaner we have ALL been waiting for Does in need to be the bucks who beat Kenny? I'm fine if it is, but I figured when Kenny went heel they would go with him and it'd be the heel elite. I like your way too, I just never saw it heading in that direction with Kenny splitting away from the Bucks as part of his heel turn. |
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Post by walkingturtles on Jul 15, 2020 21:22:21 GMT -5
Tonight wasn’t terrible. I’m pissed Cage didn’t win because he can be the dominant heel. All in all though, you can tell one of the problems is they overthink and over act things.
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Jul 15, 2020 21:25:51 GMT -5
I usually say “well that was a home run show”. I can’t tonight. Pretty disappointing. With Raw getting its lowest viewership ever, AEW had the opportunity to take advantage, put on a home run show, and more people would watch inching closer to Raw’s viewers. This show may do less than 600,000. FTR and Lucha Bros. didn’t mesh well. I'm not speculating on the numbers, but I fear this was a stumble "certain people" were waiting for. And for it to come on a show featuring "the demo-god", that is begging for a backlash. Bringing out Vickie and the DX-ish OJ spot, not gonna go by most people. The men's tags were my favorite parts. The Elite gave a little much to get Marko on the same plane as Perry and the Dino. Omega's little slip was entertaining, but we have so many guys blurring the lines already. FTR/Lucha Bros tightened up late but started out shaky. World Title match was alright, but Mox lacked fire again. If you're going to tell about all the hardships and stresses he's went thru lately, with a little big-mouthed shrimp needling him throughout, you'd expect him to already be walking an edge. And being put against someone billed as a "machine", the contrast should have been right there. |
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Post by BaLoR RoLLiNS on Jul 15, 2020 21:29:53 GMT -5
Most may hate this, but get that AEW title back on Jericho is best. Moxley has sucked. Brodie nor Cage can beat him. Kenny cant turn soon enough. Bucks beat Hang/Kenny. Kenny snaps...ish. goes solo. Defeats Mox or Jericho and we get The Cleaner we have ALL been waiting for Does in need to be the bucks who beat Kenny? I'm fine if it is, but I figured when Kenny went heel they would go with him and it'd be the heel elite. I like your way too, I just never saw it heading in that direction with Kenny splitting away from the Bucks as part of his heel turn. If kenny goes heel then Bucks do to. If not, then cut all ties. By October Kenny needs to be Kenny of old and be this dominate title holder that we desire like we've seen in the past. And saw in jericho in AEW. Blame covid. But titles or not, certain guys can carry themselves, and with a title crowd or Not Moxley/Ambrose cannot |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 15, 2020 21:30:07 GMT -5
Tonight wasn’t terrible. I’m pissed Cage didn’t win because he can be the dominant heel. All in all though, you can tell one of the problems is they overthink and over act things. I mean, I think we’re moving into Mox/MJF. Cage/MJF could hve worked, but Darby/Cage is a great way to have Cage bounce back and look like a monster. |
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Post by toki on Jul 15, 2020 21:32:31 GMT -5
next week: cody's weekly title defense hangman vs five ivelisse vs diamante mjf w/ wardlow in action young bucks vs butcher and blade falls count anywhere jurassic express vs jericho and hager we shall try again next week. i got my hopes up too high for cage tonight, but there's nothing there for me to really worry about next week. tnt title matches are usually pretty good, five/alan angels is fun to watch so him and page should be good. ivelisse vs diamante will  ing rule. mjf is great but i'm really liking anything wardlow is doing lately. fca match will be fun. it's too bad sammy isn't there to take hager's spot or the last match would be even better. still looking forward to it tho. |
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Post by BaLoR RoLLiNS on Jul 15, 2020 21:33:29 GMT -5
Tonight wasn’t terrible. I’m pissed Cage didn’t win because he can be the dominant heel. All in all though, you can tell one of the problems is they overthink and over act things. I mean, I think we’re moving into Mox/MJF. Cage/MJF could hve worked, but Darby/Cage is a great way to have Cage bounce back and look like a monster. What sucks is that where does Darby go next? He doesn't need to be on Dark. Hes a star. If anything his feud with Cody ends and he takes that TNT title |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 21:38:12 GMT -5
Does in need to be the bucks who beat Kenny? I'm fine if it is, but I figured when Kenny went heel they would go with him and it'd be the heel elite. I like your way too, I just never saw it heading in that direction with Kenny splitting away from the Bucks as part of his heel turn. If kenny goes heel then Bucks do to. If not, then cut all ties. By October Kenny needs to be Kenny of old and be this dominate title holder that we desire like we've seen in the past. And saw in jericho in AEW. Blame covid. But titles or not, certain guys can carry themselves, and with a title crowd or Not Moxley/Ambrose cannot There's definitely something to Omega taking the title from Mox. They've had the feud with each other since literally day 1 at the first double or nothing. All out isn't until September 5th so they've got a bit of time. Can get the belts off Kenny/hangman and try to set it up for then, or have Kenny and Hangman drop the belts at all out (poor hangman two huge losses at all out) and then have Kenny charge for the big one at full gear |
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Post by walkingturtles on Jul 15, 2020 21:42:32 GMT -5
I mean, I think we’re moving into Mox/MJF. Cage/MJF could hve worked, but Darby/Cage is a great way to have Cage bounce back and look like a monster. What sucks is that where does Darby go next? He doesn't need to be on Dark. Hes a star. If anything his feud with Cody ends and he takes that TNT title Darby is not a star. There are some things there, but again he’s too short and skinny. |
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Post by BaLoR RoLLiNS on Jul 15, 2020 21:43:15 GMT -5
6 weeks. Get those titles off Hangman/Omega. Santana and Ortiz win. Jericho faces Tyson. Inner circle means something more again
Hangman FTR vs Bucks and ?
Omega vs Mox
Plus WWE covid releases can be in play at this time. So my hands are up, who the F knows
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Post by shenmue on Jul 15, 2020 21:44:26 GMT -5
yikes, lotta hate for tonight's episode it sounds like? I only tuned in 20 mins ago.. I don't subscribe to the 'cage must win' logic, but i would like to see it. I feel like Mox almost needs the title for a bit longer for true legitimacy. he's been fed some imposing characters, bring in a heel Omega I really liked tonight outside of a couple spots. I really dunno why this thread is so negative tonight When the show is good like most weeks it gets praised, nothing against you thinking the show was decent but myself and others thought it was below par. |
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Post by BaLoR RoLLiNS on Jul 15, 2020 21:44:58 GMT -5
What sucks is that where does Darby go next? He doesn't need to be on Dark. Hes a star. If anything his feud with Cody ends and he takes that TNT title Darby is not a star. There are some things there, but again he’s too short and skinny. Nooo that's WWE talk. Too small too skinny. So why even try. Give up and join 205. |
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Post by walkingturtles on Jul 15, 2020 21:46:06 GMT -5
Darby is not a star. There are some things there, but again he’s too short and skinny. Nooo that's WWE talk. Too small too skinny. So why even try. Give up and join 205. Just the facts. He can be an interesting kid card guy, but how can you realistically believe he can do certain things. |
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Post by shenmue on Jul 15, 2020 21:49:04 GMT -5
I didn’t mind the finish to Mox/Cage. It’s a hell of a lot better than a DQ or distraction finish that gets spammed elsewhere. No interference and the manager looked out for his client. Solid finish. I thought the finish was OK if you had to have the belt stay on Mox but overall the match was dull, Mox just isn't delivering great matches the last few months, Brodie was a decent brawl but apart from that nope not entertaining at all. |
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Post by BaLoR RoLLiNS on Jul 15, 2020 21:51:09 GMT -5
Nooo that's WWE talk. Too small too skinny. So why even try. Give up and join 205. Just the facts. He can be an interesting kid card guy, but how can you realistically believe he can do certain things. So why is he now set against Cage? Gotta believe in something. Neither one will lose this fight |
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Post by walkingturtles on Jul 15, 2020 21:57:14 GMT -5
Just the facts. He can be an interesting kid card guy, but how can you realistically believe he can do certain things. So why is he now set against Cage? Gotta believe in something. Neither one will lose this fight Because he has been booked there, however very easily when I look at the two of them I say, Cage will kill this little dude. Allin is gonna have to bend the rules and play outside the lines to even have a chance, then it disrupts the heel/babyface dynamic. The babyface should draw sympathy, but because of his size, him making the comeback after drawing that sympathy is unrealistic, and buries the opponent. |
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