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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 19, 2020 0:38:09 GMT -5
The more I think about it, I’m changing my answer to Jericho. From 1999 to 2010, my favorite wrestler, but holy sh** does this dude just suck. We get it, you want to be a rockstar. A middle aged man with a drinking problem, who cheats on his wife constantly, and claims to be responsible for everything in wrestling’s history. Don’t get me started on twitter fighting over ratings. The guy hasn’t had an amazing match in about a decade but everyone acts like he’s the greatest to ever do it.
Don’t get me wrong, amazing mind for this business but just a garbage dude.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Jul 19, 2020 2:48:58 GMT -5
If we are dealing with both IRL and kayfabe, I have many *many* issues with pretty much every single aspect of Vince McMahon. I can't even support him as Shane's dad because, as we've found out in recent years, he's pretty bad at even pulling that off. (Don't get me started.)
But if we are just looking at on TV stuff, I'd say Dolph Ziggler (for the men) and Lacey Evans (for the women).
I've never seen the point of Dolph. He seems like a joke at best. I swear, if he wasn't pointless before Shane beat him for the world cup, there's no recovering from that ish. I've never been able to take him seriously since, and frankly, I didn't before. His thing with Mandy and Otis just made him a sleezebag that was all too familiar to women in today's world. He's crap.
I will never support Lacey outside of her role as a Veteran. I respect her, but I don't like her. It's nothing personal, I just can't get past the internalized misogyny of her gimmick. It turned my stomach when I saw that stuff on twitter bout "Uh Oh! Better go make him a sandwich!" and I don't think I can ever recover my opinion of her.
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Post by IRS on Jul 19, 2020 3:59:33 GMT -5
Damian Priest.
I can't even pinpoint exactly why. There's just something about him that bugs me. I think part of it is from seeing him when he first popped up in ROH and getting an immediate knock-off Taker/Judas Mesias (interesting combo, I know) vibe from him.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Jul 19, 2020 8:04:58 GMT -5
Thought of some more.
Big Daddy Shirley Crabtree. "Oi've got a big belly. Oi'm gonna bump you wiv it. Lookit moi sparkley hat." Piss off. Go wash your ass, you fat bastard.
DDP. Yes, I said it. I'm sure he's a great guy by helping Jake Roberts, Scott Hall & other people now. But let's face it- the only reason he got a push in WCW is because he & Bischoff swapped wives a few times. Plus I can't take a guy seriously who gets his catch phrase from a Bugs Bunny cartoon & doesn't have eyebrows.
Rocky Mountain Thunder.
What the hell, Verne?
Maxx Payne/Man Mountain Rock. Ugh. Like someone holding a lump of dog sh*t under your nose. Going from a metal/goth guy to a tie dye cornrow wearing musician? Nope.
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Post by stc13 on Jul 19, 2020 8:33:15 GMT -5
If we're talking overall, Marko Stunt. I'm a diehard AEW fan, and switch over to NXT any time he comes on.
In WWE, Dolph Ziggler and Seth Rollins are tied for me. I get that people love both of them, but their in ring work doesn't blow me away, I find their voices whiny and grating on the mic (whether heel or face), and outside of the ring they seem like tools. Hot take maybe, but I don't care for either of them.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Jul 19, 2020 11:41:14 GMT -5
Current Chris Jericho is definitely a close second.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jul 19, 2020 13:19:30 GMT -5
BECKY. LYNCH. I dont like a single thing about her or anything she has done since she arrived.
But also nia, Charlotte, drew McIntyre, ryback, dean malenko, sheamus, christian post brood.
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The Real Chillary
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Chillary since day one ish
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Post by The Real Chillary on Jul 19, 2020 14:19:31 GMT -5
Charlotte. I just don't see the appeal. She can't get through a promo without corpsing and she just doesn't do it for me talent wise.
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Jul 20, 2020 12:52:32 GMT -5
As a child, I hated Warrior with every fiber of my being. I never understood why they wanted to replace Hogan. Wrestlemania 6 has always pissed me off. One of the greatest things I ever saw in wrestling was when he lost to Sgt. Slaughter at the Royal Rumble.
Today - Womens wrestling and vanilla midgets. I guess that's pretty much everybody these days...
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Post by Yayo on Jul 20, 2020 13:45:32 GMT -5
Corbin, Lashley, Charlotte, Cena for most of his career outside the matches where he was carried by incredible wrestlers
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 20, 2020 14:04:20 GMT -5
The current one is Rollins. He's a tone-deaf dork who's a corporate kiss ass.
All time, I have a hard time picking between Warrior and Goldberg. I can see the appeal for some people, but their matches are trash and they were crazy reckless in the ring. I'm shocked neither one of them killed someone in-ring.
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kinnikuman
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Post by kinnikuman on Jul 20, 2020 14:09:27 GMT -5
If we are dealing with both IRL and kayfabe, I have many *many* issues with pretty much every single aspect of Vince McMahon. I can't even support him as Shane's dad because, as we've found out in recent years, he's pretty bad at even pulling that off. (Don't get me started.) But if we are just looking at on TV stuff, I'd say Dolph Ziggler (for the men) and Lacey Evans (for the women). I've never seen the point of Dolph. He seems like a joke at best. I swear, if he wasn't pointless before Shane beat him for the world cup, there's no recovering from that ish. I've never been able to take him seriously since, and frankly, I didn't before. His thing with Mandy and Otis just made him a sleezebag that was all too familiar to women in today's world. He's crap. I will never support Lacey outside of her role as a Veteran. I respect her, but I don't like her. It's nothing personal, I just can't get past the internalized misogyny of her gimmick. It turned my stomach when I saw that stuff on twitter bout "Uh Oh! Better go make him a sandwich!" and I don't think I can ever recover my opinion of her. Dolph could've been one of the best and biggest stars in wrestling history, but he was doomed the SECOND he was named Dolph Ziggler. That name will never be able to headline. He is one of the best workers in the biz, takes amazing bumps and reacts to moves the way only the best ever have ... but nope ... Dolph Ziggler.
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Retrospect
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Post by Retrospect on Jul 20, 2020 16:08:53 GMT -5
Do I have to say anything else?
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Jul 20, 2020 16:26:39 GMT -5
Do I have to say anything else? Who is that?
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Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Jul 20, 2020 16:37:55 GMT -5
The more I think about it, I’m changing my answer to Jericho. From 1999 to 2010, my favorite wrestler, but holy sh** does this dude just suck. We get it, you want to be a rockstar. A middle aged man with a drinking problem, who cheats on his wife constantly, and claims to be responsible for everything in wrestling’s history. Don’t get me started on twitter fighting over ratings. The guy hasn’t had an amazing match in about a decade but everyone acts like he’s the greatest to ever do it. Don’t get me wrong, amazing mind for this business but just a garbage dude. I don't think he legitimately thinks he responsible for everything in wrestling. He's working a gimmick. Same thing with the rating thing. He's working you. Not many guys remain in character all the time.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Jul 20, 2020 16:54:07 GMT -5
Thought of some more. Rocky Mountain Thunder. What the hell, Verne? That was amazing
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 20, 2020 17:22:48 GMT -5
The more I think about it, I’m changing my answer to Jericho. From 1999 to 2010, my favorite wrestler, but holy sh** does this dude just suck. We get it, you want to be a rockstar. A middle aged man with a drinking problem, who cheats on his wife constantly, and claims to be responsible for everything in wrestling’s history. Don’t get me started on twitter fighting over ratings. The guy hasn’t had an amazing match in about a decade but everyone acts like he’s the greatest to ever do it. Don’t get me wrong, amazing mind for this business but just a garbage dude. I don't think he legitimately thinks he responsible for everything in wrestling. He's working a gimmick. Same thing with the rating thing. He's working you. Not many guys remain in character all the time. His books are filled with examples of him taking credit for things others have pointed out he lied about. He’s also done out of character interviews trying to claim responsibility for most things. He’s not working sh**. Dude is garbage.
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Retrospect
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Post by Retrospect on Jul 20, 2020 17:54:09 GMT -5
Do I have to say anything else? Who is that? Marko Stunt. Hes like 5 foot nothing and Annoying as hell.
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Post by TheChamp420 on Jul 20, 2020 20:16:39 GMT -5
Just scrolled through 5 pages, don’t think I saw a a Roman mention once! Mad surprised.....
For me ADR- always thought he was mad boring
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jul 20, 2020 22:45:05 GMT -5
David Arquette. No training, no ability, no charisma, no mic skills, and he didn't look like an athlete. Most celebrity appearances in wrestling have been disasters, but his time in WCW was one of the darkest times in wrestling history.
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