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Post by FLUX '97 on Jul 19, 2020 12:53:05 GMT -5
No. She's never been good. Sure she's athletic but thats the extent of her abilities. Her mic skills arent good, her actual ring work is below average. She has a flashy entrance then the crowd pretty much loses interest. She's been given the title twice. The first one doesnt really count but she got a 140 day run with the SD title coming off the heels of Lynch & Bliss making it the far superior title between the two brands and the title fell off the map & never regained luster again until Asuka picked it up. Realistically we all know why this is trending. It has nothing to do with "how she is treated". Natalya has been under used for nearly a decade. Dana Brooke (who's just as bad in the ring as Naomi) is a career jobber.. You dont see "stans" making fusses & hashtags about either of them. If we want to play that card, fine we can play it...Push Bianca Belair, at least shes a "5 tool player" and neither her nor her husband are likely to get you bad publicity from nights out. That’s because Natalya has the charisma of a bag of doorknobs and the personality equivalent of a rash. Also, mainstream celebrities such as Keke Palmer are hyping up Naomi’s ability. People who don’t watch wrestling are hyping up Naomi’s ability. They ain’t doing that for the cat chick whose best trait is “My uncle is Bret Hart.”
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Jul 19, 2020 13:11:54 GMT -5
No, she’s not that great in the ring and isn’t impressive on the mic. I’m surprised she’s made it all these years an not been in the chopping block. I suppose it pays to sleep with someone who’s family is prominent in the business.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jul 19, 2020 13:15:46 GMT -5
No no no no nooooooo. She should be wherever the other funkadactyl is.
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Post by Zeke on Jul 19, 2020 14:31:29 GMT -5
Always thought she was average in the ring, she has a fun entrance, but so many other female talents are better than her.
I always felt like her first women's title reign was WWE patting themselves on the back because it was during Black History Month, she vacated it in a couple of weeks due to an injury (cannot remember if it was real of kayfabe) only to win it again during WrestleMania in her hometown. I cannot remember any of her title defences apart from her dropping the title to Natalya.
She got two great monents, but her runs were forgetable, maybe she needs to find a tag partner to win the Tag titles because it seems to be a title for make shift tag teams lol.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Jul 19, 2020 14:46:10 GMT -5
When Jimmy Uso returns, they need to turn Naomi heel with the Usos. Jimmy and Jey return to their “Day One Ish” gimmick and Naomi brings back a form of her B.A.D. heel persona.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Jul 19, 2020 15:41:36 GMT -5
No. She's never been good. Sure she's athletic but thats the extent of her abilities. Her mic skills arent good, her actual ring work is below average. She has a flashy entrance then the crowd pretty much loses interest. She's been given the title twice. The first one doesnt really count but she got a 140 day run with the SD title coming off the heels of Lynch & Bliss making it the far superior title between the two brands and the title fell off the map & never regained luster again until Asuka picked it up. Realistically we all know why this is trending. It has nothing to do with "how she is treated". Natalya has been under used for nearly a decade. Dana Brooke (who's just as bad in the ring as Naomi) is a career jobber.. You dont see "stans" making fusses & hashtags about either of them. If we want to play that card, fine we can play it...Push Bianca Belair, at least shes a "5 tool player" and neither her nor her husband are likely to get you bad publicity from nights out. That’s because Natalya has the charisma of a bag of doorknobs and the personality equivalent of a rash. Also, mainstream celebrities such as Keke Palmer are hyping up Naomi’s ability. People who don’t watch wrestling are hyping up Naomi’s ability. They ain’t doing that for the cat chick whose best trait is “My uncle is Bret Hart.” I mean, what merit does a celebrity hyping up a wrestler having for her deserving better? How do we know that this person even has the slightest clue about wrestling? If you want to “push” a talent who has the ability, who seems pretty good on the mic and is an up and coming superstar, look to Bianca Belair. She’s money, Naomi is not as evident by her flop title reigns and the fact that she’s just bland. Athletic ability does not translate to wrestling talent and being a solid hand in the ring. She just a flashy entrance with some athletic ability, but no wrestling talent. I mean, I’d imagine there are several members here who could jump around, fist pump, slide down a ramp and throw their rear into their opponent for their finisher 🙄
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Jul 19, 2020 18:01:46 GMT -5
Yes she does but cause she isn't blonde isn't filled with silicone or a big fake ass she won't. Umm... she’s a 2-time Women’s Champion and the inaugural WrestleMania Women’s Battle Royal winner.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 18:19:51 GMT -5
Yes she does but cause she isn't blonde isn't filled with silicone or a big fake ass she won't. Literally all of the women's Champions say hi. It's a really talented division and we don't need to play you deserve it hot potato with titles.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Jul 19, 2020 18:28:15 GMT -5
Riiiiiight
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Post by bababooey on Jul 19, 2020 18:50:27 GMT -5
Everyone involved deserves better than that awful karaoke contest, but other than that she’s doing fine. She’s had a fairly accomplished career, but people always assume people are being mistreated if they aren’t at the top 100% of the time.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 19, 2020 20:58:32 GMT -5
This website doesn’t have a great track record with views on women so I’m not sure if this is the crowd to ask.
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Post by shenmue on Jul 19, 2020 21:08:49 GMT -5
Yes she does but cause she isn't blonde isn't filled with silicone or a big fake ass she won't. Hi JD, i really enjoy your original comments/thoughts, you never ever just copy whatever someone on Youtube/twitter says. I greatly admire that about you.
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Post by Yayo on Jul 20, 2020 7:08:44 GMT -5
No. I’d be fine if I never saw Naomi again. And if anyone really is attributing this to race, that’s ridiculous considering every woman holding a title in the WWE right now is a woman of color
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jul 20, 2020 8:42:44 GMT -5
Definitely not. She’s had a great career, she’s been women’s champion, she’s been on Total Divas. She’s accomplished more than most Women in WWE have the opportunity to accomplish. Seriously, this ‘movement’ is 100% a function of the current social climate. I need to be careful in my words, because everyone misconstrues everything and finds sinister undertones when none exist.
This is not an issue where she has been mistreated for ANY reason. For all intents and purposes she’s had her time in the limelight. Yes, she’s talented and athletic, but she’s not that great on the mic, she has some, but not an abundance of charisma, and the gimmick isn’t exactly one that prints money. Mind you, I think she’s sexy as hell, and I’d consider myself kind of a fan. She’s good, but she’s had her time. I’d actually go the opposite way and say that if this movement leads to a renewed push/lengthy title reign I’d say that it was completely undeserved, and a disservice to the other talented women on the roster(s)
Edit: as for Keke Palmer, Unless this is her way of petitioning the Rock to make a film about Naomi’s life a la Fighting with my Family, I can’t envision a circumstance where Naomi would even be a character in a film that she could play.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jul 20, 2020 9:12:07 GMT -5
Maybe? I've personally never been a fan of her in-ring or promo work. But she is a popular talent, as evidenced by the hashtag trending. I don't get the hype behind her, but it's clear that a lot of other people do.
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Post by Valbroski on Jul 20, 2020 14:35:50 GMT -5
I think a lot of people in the company do. I’ve personally never loved or hated her, she’s kind of just there.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 20, 2020 14:41:56 GMT -5
The problem is that if you say "no" to that, you may be labelled a racist. When honestly, Naomi is the perfect WWE superstar. She's not a wrestler, she's a sports entertainer. I don't know what she can have that is better though?? She has been a two time WWE Women's Champion on Smackdown, she has been in multiple Wrestlemania shows, she gets a lot of wins.... not sure what can happen to make her get better??
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 20, 2020 15:03:23 GMT -5
No. I’d be fine if I never saw Naomi again. And if anyone really is attributing this to race, that’s ridiculous considering every woman holding a title in the WWE right now is a woman of color I dont believe her opportunity or lack of is because of race but the twitter warriors that are making a stink over this are absolutely playing the race card on it. That very obvious.
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Post by CM Poor: DeepFigureValue on Jul 20, 2020 15:26:50 GMT -5
Sure, why not. I like watching Naomi. She's been off-screen for a while up until recently. Give her something to go with and see what happens.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Jul 20, 2020 15:27:32 GMT -5
No, not at all. She's bland on the mic. Her move set is basic. Her finish is an ass to the face. I like her glow-y stuff though. She's fine where she's at.
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