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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Jul 20, 2020 16:33:46 GMT -5
No, not at all. She's bland on the mic. Her move set is basic. Her finish is an ass to the face. I like her glow-y stuff though. She's fine where she's at. To be fair, it’s a sizable ass
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 20, 2020 17:36:20 GMT -5
No. I’d be fine if I never saw Naomi again. And if anyone really is attributing this to race, that’s ridiculous considering every woman holding a title in the WWE right now is a woman of color I dont believe her opportunity or lack of is because of race but the twitter warriors that are making a stink over this are absolutely playing the race card on it. That very obvious. Of course they are. It’s easier to call someone a “racist” than actually debate ones skills and “worth.” Naomi had two runs with the title and was a flop. She’s shown little to no improvement in almost a decade and nobody can seriously claim shes more deserving of a push than someone like Lacey or Natalya, or that Naomi is on the same level as Charlotte, Bayley, Sasha, Asuka, or heck even Bliss and Cross. Heck most of the NXT women are more well rounded than Naomi.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Jul 21, 2020 2:53:37 GMT -5
I think you hit the nail on the head in saying the ladies need to hold up the division. She seemed way over when she was smackdowns champ but I guess there's only so much steam in neon lights and dancing. In my opinion she was right to take the loss Evans is an upstart with more chance of Improving, at this point Naomi is a veteran but she's at the same level she's been at for years now.
All the girls deserve better than the karaoke thing. Although all the mid card guys are chasing the 24/7 title like tools so I guess no one can call inequality.
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Post by LK3 on Jul 21, 2020 3:35:47 GMT -5
Quite frankly she's overachieved by being a 2-time SD Women's Champion plus winning the title in her hometown at WrestleMania.
Could she be given "better" things to do on TV? Yeah, totally. To the degree these twitter people are probably wanting? No, I wouldn't say that at all. She's athletic as all hell, and the glow gimmick is easily appealing to some fans. But she's really not a very good wrestler, and can't cut much of a promo. She has reached her peak accomplishment wise as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jul 21, 2020 4:48:45 GMT -5
I like Naomi, but people online are acting as if she's never gotten a push before. She's gotten the Smackdown Womens title twice. Right now it's just not her time. And also if we're talking about people deserving better, theres plenty of guys and gals on the roster that deserve better that barely got any of the pushes Naomi has gotten
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Post by rowdy1971 on Jul 21, 2020 8:23:07 GMT -5
No, not at all. She's bland on the mic. Her move set is basic. Her finish is an ass to the face. I like her glow-y stuff though. She's fine where she's at. To be fair, it’s a sizable ass I never said it wasn't a nice ass!
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Post by hbkjason on Jul 21, 2020 10:52:21 GMT -5
I like her, she comes across as a super nice lady and I like her gimmick. She is not the worst in the ring and her entrance with the neon is pretty damn awesome. I think she is the type of character that really suffers without a live crowd to play off.
With that being said, I think she has had a hell of a run the last couple of years and due to the fact there are better ladies in ring wise I think she has been treated pretty damn fairly.
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Jul 21, 2020 14:46:07 GMT -5
I love her in the ring. There is something magnetic about her presence outside of the flashy outfit and entrance. She can deliver in the ring and she can get over huge with the everyday audience and the true fan audience, if they just gave her another break. She is really underutilized in my opinion and there just isn't another woman on the brand who is as athletic as she is. I would love to see her become a superstar in the next year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 15:38:23 GMT -5
I love her in the ring. There is something magnetic about her presence outside of the flashy outfit and entrance. She can deliver in the ring and she can get over huge with the everyday audience and the true fan audience, if they just gave her another break. She is really underutilized in my opinion and there just isn't another woman on the brand who is as athletic as she is. I would love to see her become a superstar in the next year. I know I'm being nit picky since it's only one part of the equation, but Bianca Belair is by far the most athletic women on the roster. Naomi's very athletic but Bianca is on another level.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jul 22, 2020 7:37:29 GMT -5
These hashtags are getting beyond the joke... and this one must surely be a joke. "#Naomideservesbetter"? Naomi has already been given way more, than someone of her level of talent, deserves. I'd start a new hashtag... #NomoreforNaomi, or #Naomi'shadenough.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 22, 2020 7:54:40 GMT -5
These hashtags are getting beyond the joke... and this one must surely be a joke. "#Naomideservesbetter"? Naomi has already been given way more, than someone of her level of talent, deserves. I'd start a new hashtag... #NomoreforNaomi, or #Naomi'shadenough. They bumped Jon Moxley and the friggin IC Title off the main card for WM33 just so she could win the women’s title for a second time in her hometown. That alone is far more than she ever deserved or earned.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 22, 2020 11:56:15 GMT -5
Today's fans are turning wrestling into "participation trophies for everyone". They think everyone can be a top talent all at the same time. So you'll get your hashtags and tweets, but reality is, they really don't care. They just want something to be outraged about.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 22, 2020 14:34:04 GMT -5
I love how people are now attacking Booker for sharing an opinion many others have; Naomi is athletic as hell but hasn’t improved her ring psychology or mic skills since entering the WWE. She isn’t someone that fans come to see en-mass, and I doubt anyone has ever said “I’m going to this show because of Naomi.”
Booker has a unique perspective considering what he went thought in WCW. The guy put up with crap for most of the 90s and didn’t get a real shot at the main event until he was well into his 30s. But he didn’t complain and kept shining through the crap thrown at him. It may be an old-school mentality, but it’s what he’s trying to get across. Naomi simply hasn’t done enough to prove she deserves another huge push after her first two title runs were crap.
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Post by sonstuds on Jul 22, 2020 14:52:45 GMT -5
But do you remember anything from her last two reigns as champ naomi vs. lana never forget
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Jul 22, 2020 15:55:47 GMT -5
Forgettable title reigns, HANDED her second title win in her hometown at WrestleMania when there were far better choices to win, don’t get me started on this one. She’s always annoyed me and been handed most of her opportunities, whether that be because of who she’s in a relationship with or for WWE to be able to pat themselves on the back because of giving someone of her race a title reign/opportunities. I’ll go as far to say that I’d rather see Lana on tv than Naomi. Even with her flashy entrance she’s boring as hell. Her finisher being the “rear end” is laughable. I 1000% agree with booker. Instead of crying, bitching and moaning for better on social Media, how about you put in the work to be a better hand in the ring and spot relying on athletic ability to get you by? I’m over this whole “women’s evolution” bs and taking to twitter to cry when you don’t get what you want. Want to complain about being in a Smackdown sing off? Go for it, because if you REALLY deserved better you’d be given better, because you’d have earned it. Cream always rises to the top. Look at Bayley, Sasha, Asuka, hell even Charlotte and I can’t really stand her either, but her performances in the ring don’t lie.
Bottom line, in my opinion, is that Naomi has overstayed her welcome in the company and if she was axed tomorrow, nothing of value would be lost. She can take her athletic ability to a gymnastics program and teach that, because she can’t really cut it in the ring, wrestling psychology wise.
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Post by Sizzle on Jul 22, 2020 16:04:37 GMT -5
I like Naomi a lot, Booker T is right, though. She's cool, athletic, and has a lot going for her in that. However, she doesn't have that sort of characteristic to her that women like the Four Horsewomen have. They're all bonafide stars and although I think Naomi carries herself like a star and can definitely improve in the ways Booker T laid out, I don't think she's there just yet, but she does have a future and if she does improve I think she can get to that level. As a fan of her overall persona, I'd love to see that.
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Post by Angel Beast on Jul 23, 2020 9:39:38 GMT -5
Does she deserve better than a stupid karaoke contest? Absolutely. Does that mean push her straight to the front of the line? No. She can still be given something meaningful without being for the title. This feud with Lacey ain’t it. They’ve randomly turned Lacey heel because she lost a karaoke contest to Naomi. That’s just lazy writing.
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Post by nikkisuschrist on Jul 23, 2020 11:30:51 GMT -5
Some of these replies are absolutely laughable. Damn. Who knew coming to a Naomi thread would lead to a bunch of triggered grown adults lmao But yes, she does deserve better. Nobody besides maybe her hardcore fans are asking for her to be bumped immediately into the title picture, just for more than 3 minute losses and karaoke contests. Something of substance. Naomi is undeniably one of the most athletic on the roster, period. Regardless of if you hate her, you can't deny her talent. And if you still want to, you're literally just mad lol. I do agree with the criticism that she may lack something that is preventing her from being a top talent, but she does have MOST of it down and has delivered on numerous occasions, and is still treated as a background player to some girls who most certainly can't hold a candle to her in-ring performance, including some of those beloved horsewomen. All 4 Horsewomen are overhyped. Especially Becky. Also Booker T should probably go somewhere. Speaking out against someone's support when you've literally given your boss and co-workers n-word passes and allowed yourself to be embarrassed on television numerous times is probably not the wave. Sasha was right in saying what she said
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Post by walkingturtles on Jul 23, 2020 15:55:38 GMT -5
Y’all get off my girl Natalya. She’s a legacy who can actually go and talk on the mic. They have criminally underused her. Her gimmick should be similar to Charlotte, hell they should start a “Legacy” tag team. Don’t compare Naomi to my Canadian Queen!!!!!
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Post by wheeljack83 on Jul 24, 2020 18:59:10 GMT -5
Yes, she does, but there are a lot of people in WWE who deserve or DESERVED better. So it's not like she's alone in that fact.
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