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Post by Chip on Jul 20, 2020 21:34:33 GMT -5
what exactly happened why everyone hates Ziggler now?
i think the dude cuts a good promo, is believable in the ring, can sell his ass off, and has pretty good "big" matches. hes not my favorite ever, but i truly dont understand the visceral hate the guy gets from wrestling fans
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Post by marino13 on Jul 20, 2020 21:35:32 GMT -5
I have no interest in seeing Big Show, but so am far this RAW has been very enjoyable.
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Post by bWo on Jul 20, 2020 21:35:44 GMT -5
Geez just shut the f*ck up Show. Go away with this boring ass promo.
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Ohtimate Wahriah
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 20, 2020 21:37:24 GMT -5
How is Big Show still on television? I’m seriously asking, how is he still on the air? If he wasn’t tall, he’d have absolutely nothing memorable about him or his career
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Post by marino13 on Jul 20, 2020 21:37:27 GMT -5
what exactly happened why everyone hates Ziggler now? i think the dude cuts a good promo, is believable in the ring, can sell his ass off, and has pretty good "big" matches. hes not my favorite ever, but i truly dont understand the visceral hate the guy gets from wrestling fans I think they’re mad because he didn’t leave to go elsewhere. If he’d quit tomorrow, give a podcast shoot, he’d be the most popular guy in wrestling all of a sudden.
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Post by Chip on Jul 20, 2020 21:37:59 GMT -5
i will say this, during the covid era the promo game from a lot of guys has been on point
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Post by FLUX '97 on Jul 20, 2020 21:39:03 GMT -5
Hope Drew picks a "People named Dolph Ziggler must immediately retire" match.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 20, 2020 21:39:59 GMT -5
Hopefully Roode can return soon. I liked him n Dolph together and RAW could use another heel team.
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Post by Chip on Jul 20, 2020 21:43:13 GMT -5
the WWE really needs freshening up, the presentation is just so stale. you wonder why people aren't watching? its because they constantly shove stupid buzz words in your face over and over again, they act like the audience is ing stupid and honestly the crap they do is cheesy cornball vanilla toast garbage like the whole "eye for an eye thing"....it was just such a stupid idea, and then pretending like Rey literally lost his eye when anyone watching knows he didn't...its like they want to pretend the internet doesnt exist and nobody watching the shows never looks up anything on the internet yet they constantly tell us how many followers or subscribers they have on all social media there comes a point when "because wrestling" has been abused and overplayed, and they are WAY past that point. anyone tuning in to watch that nonsense would realize it and be annoyed with being talked to like they are ing stupid
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Post by Chip on Jul 20, 2020 21:43:32 GMT -5
Hopefully Roode can return soon. I liked him n Dolph together and RAW could use another heel team. the happened to roode?
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Post by JL Styles on Jul 20, 2020 21:45:22 GMT -5
I guess Flair isn’t getting punted tonight. Just Show.
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Post by LA Times on Jul 20, 2020 21:47:10 GMT -5
Big show is 380 lbs? Not as fat
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Post by Chip on Jul 20, 2020 21:47:11 GMT -5
this is the crap i am talking about....all night they they keep using the word "unsanctioned"....they make it sound like this literal brutal bloody real fight that both guys are going to attempt to break each others bones and then they both come out to their entrance music, in their ring gear, get in the ring, with a ing referee....and just start having a wrestling match. nothing about this is "unsanctioned". nothing. and nobody watching this show would think that either
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 20, 2020 21:50:47 GMT -5
what exactly happened why everyone hates Ziggler now? i think the dude cuts a good promo, is believable in the ring, can sell his ass off, and has pretty good "big" matches. hes not my favorite ever, but i truly dont understand the visceral hate the guy gets from wrestling fans I’ve always enjoyed Ziggler but I think the reason fans turned on him is because he complained about his booking for years and fans got behind him as an underdog-type guy trying to get his just-dues, only to see him continually resign with the company and become the definition of a jobber to the stars. Fans legit saw him as the next HBK/Chris Jericho and wanted him to succeed, yet Ziggler didn’t seem to have that same passion and became complacent with his place. It seems to be a combo of fans feeling jaded by his lack of passion combined with his “jobber to the stars” status. He’ll never win a world title again, so fans feel like it’s a waste of time with him in a main event feud. and if he’s fighting over a midcard title he’s always the weak one in the feud. We’ve seen it over and over.
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Post by JL Styles on Jul 20, 2020 21:52:07 GMT -5
this is the crap i am talking about....all night they they keep using the word "unsanctioned"....they make it sound like this literal brutal bloody real fight that both guys are going to attempt to break each others bones and then they both come out to their entrance music, in their ring gear, get in the ring, with a ing referee....and just start having a wrestling match. nothing about this is "unsanctioned". nothing. and nobody watching this show would think that either I’ve only seen Randy in wrestling gear or a suit while in Evolution, so I’m not sure what he would wear.
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Post by Chip on Jul 20, 2020 21:53:23 GMT -5
Big Show is moving damn good for a guy his size/age
i heard him recently on the Jim & Sam show, and he was talking about how he really feels the best he's felt in years. he's pain free, working out like crazy, his hips are healed...dude had something like 7 hip surgeries i think he said...it was a lot. he's just such a good guy, its kind of incredible how long he's been in wrestling
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Post by East Coast on Jul 20, 2020 21:54:02 GMT -5
now Orton knows what it feels like to be a Singh brother
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Post by East Coast on Jul 20, 2020 21:56:51 GMT -5
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Post by East Coast on Jul 20, 2020 21:57:54 GMT -5
like trying to DDT a bear
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Jul 20, 2020 21:58:01 GMT -5
what exactly happened why everyone hates Ziggler now? i think the dude cuts a good promo, is believable in the ring, can sell his ass off, and has pretty good "big" matches. hes not my favorite ever, but i truly dont understand the visceral hate the guy gets from wrestling fans For me, it is largely what marino13 said, without the snide "he'd be over if he was on BTE" attitude. There's only so long to play the "I deserve to be in the main event", "it shoulda been me" card in a company without actually doing something, and Dolph is way past that by now. He should know how this place works. That's why I asked, did he sell his desire to be the top guy, or was "entitled indie spotmonkey" some meta persona he and Vince cooked up.
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