HeelPiper
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Post by HeelPiper on Aug 24, 2020 17:24:06 GMT -5
As bad as the creative is in WWE, I might hate the successive rematches more. Every match is just about setting up the rematch. It's so boring and takes the piss out of the initial match.
I'm not going to say that I didn't enjoy Randy versus Drew last night, but of they took it a little further and had a more decisive finish, it would have been better. They were clearly holding something back, and the finish was weak imo. But this isn't a new thing, so many WWE feuds follow this template. It's why AJ Styles and Nakamura took forever to get going.
I can easily say that this is why I get more enjoyment from other wrestling companies are this point. AEW feuds lead to a big match, and then everybody moves on. Or we occasionally get a best 3 whixh they make it a point to explain. I'm just tired of them having to mindlessly fill time with these rematches.
Everything in WWE fills like it's about filling time and keeping networks happy. It feels like creativity is a slave to those two factors. This company used to thrive on protecting itself from overexposure. Anybody else just over the repetitive nature of this company?
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Post by bababooey on Aug 25, 2020 7:34:48 GMT -5
Rematches help them fill the massive amount of TV time they have. That’s really the best I can come up with.
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Post by Chip on Aug 25, 2020 8:38:02 GMT -5
to me, a feud was always 2 guys back and forth for at least longer than a month. there's got to be some level of rematches because thats part of the story...especially if the store is the good trying to overcome the bad.
that being said, they are too quick to book rematches lately, like they just do it without any build up whatsoever. the challenger doesnt even need to earn it. that usually is a good part of the story that they just drop more often than not because they are lazy.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 25, 2020 17:31:03 GMT -5
There is definitely a need in wrestling for rematches. But not as many as WWE do. Although at least most of the matches are shorter now on Raw. There was no way I could watch live when every week not only had a Street Profits vs Andrade and Garza match, but that it always seemed to last for about twenty minutes.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 25, 2020 23:27:12 GMT -5
If it makes sense to the story rematches are fine. The problem is the WWE just abuses the idea of rematches. Like Drew just beat Orton clean, so why is Randy continuing the feud and likely getting another title shot? Drew already beat him fair and square.
On Smackdown, atleast it makes sense that Strowman would get a rematch as the WWE has made it clear for years that once the champ looses the title they typically have a rematch clause. Though why they gave Roman a title shot makes no sense Kayfabe wise.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Aug 26, 2020 4:12:49 GMT -5
If it makes sense to the story rematches are fine. The problem is the WWE just abuses the idea of rematches. Like Drew just beat Orton clean, so why is Randy continuing the feud and likely getting another title shot? Drew already beat him fair and square. On Smackdown, atleast it makes sense that Strowman would get a rematch as the WWE has made it clear for years that once the champ looses the title they typically have a rematch clause. Though why they gave Roman a title shot makes no sense Kayfabe wise. They announced that rematch clauses went out the window about a year ago. Instead they just use the loophole of having the former champion win a number one contender match. |
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Post by bababooey on Aug 26, 2020 16:01:33 GMT -5
If it makes sense to the story rematches are fine. The problem is the WWE just abuses the idea of rematches. Like Drew just beat Orton clean, so why is Randy continuing the feud and likely getting another title shot? Drew already beat him fair and square. On Smackdown, atleast it makes sense that Strowman would get a rematch as the WWE has made it clear for years that once the champ looses the title they typically have a rematch clause. Though why they gave Roman a title shot makes no sense Kayfabe wise. They announced that rematch clauses went out the window about a year ago. Instead they just use the loophole of having the former champion win a number one contender match. The other loophole is that rules only matter when they’re convenient |
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Post by hitmancmedge on Aug 26, 2020 19:49:10 GMT -5
Just in general the amount of tv they produce, they don’t have enough people for no rematches. I don’t think any company could produce that tv without rematches. I honestly feel like the way AEW has been going through all their matches they are gonna run into a similar problem in 6-8 months where all the top stars have faced each and the tag teams.
I’ve long said that to create more match up options Wwe needs to sign even more mechanic guys. Guys that can have great matches with the guys on the roster but aren’t gonna be your top guys. Like Ryder and Hawkins were perfect guys for those roles. I’d sign guys on the indies that are great workers but will never ever be top guys on a national level. I’d sign guys like Joe Gacy, Anthony Henry, Chris Dickenson. Pay them more than they could make anywhere else with the understanding that they would be there to have great matches and make others look good. They had the right idea a few years ago when they brought in Rhyno. Roderick Strong, Austin Aries, Ohno, and Asuka. They were bringing in veterans to help the young NXT roster and have great matches.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 21:14:53 GMT -5
Just in general the amount of tv they produce, they don’t have enough people for no rematches. I don’t think any company could produce that tv without rematches. I honestly feel like the way AEW has been going through all their matches they are gonna run into a similar problem in 6-8 months where all the top stars have faced each and the tag teams. I’ve long said that to create more match up options Wwe needs to sign even more mechanic guys. Guys that can have great matches with the guys on the roster but aren’t gonna be your top guys. Like Ryder and Hawkins were perfect guys for those roles. I’d sign guys on the indies that are great workers but will never ever be top guys on a national level. I’d sign guys like Joe Gacy, Anthony Henry, Chris Dickenson. Pay them more than they could make anywhere else with the understanding that they would be there to have great matches and make others look good. They had the right idea a few years ago when they brought in Rhyno. Roderick Strong, Austin Aries, Ohno, and Asuka. They were bringing in veterans to help the young NXT roster and have great matches. In general you're correct of course, numbers don't lie, but the sheer speed at which the rematches happen is I think the bigger issue. No problem with extended feuds and rematches, but when it's literally the same rematch or in tag team cases different permutations of the same two teams in singles matches for like a month/month and a half straight, it gets old. |
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Aug 27, 2020 15:52:16 GMT -5
This new era is like Memphis on steroids. They need to start letting guys talk off the cuff more or at least letting interactions be more entertaining to build up matches.
There's so much wrong with wrestling right now, no one thing stands out much worse than any other.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 27, 2020 17:44:00 GMT -5
They are running out of good ideas
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 13:41:21 GMT -5
The rematches are fine if they make sense, but they feel like filler most of the time. I honestly fear wrestling as we once knew it is never ever coming back to the forefront. All of the older heads that promoted and taught classic wrestling – its style, its long-term stories, believable factions, logical in-ring storytelling ... that stuff is dying off or its been driven off.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 28, 2020 15:08:56 GMT -5
It's an issue that has always came with a brand split With two small rosters they are limited.
I remember back in 2011, we had Barrett vs Orton every week on Smackdown.
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