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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Aug 28, 2020 15:30:42 GMT -5
SVR 2006 is one of the best video games WWE ever produced. However, the one thing I don't get is that there were a huge number of cuts when talent were already released, such as Mark Jindrak and Charlie Haas. Does anyone know why stars like Kenzo Suzuki, Maven, Matt Morgan, Animal, Johnny Nitro, Joey Mercury, Melina, The Dudley Boyz, Victoria, Hardcore Holly, Juventus, Super Crazy, Psicosis, Luther Reigns, Rosey, and Big Vis were cut? Besides budget cuts and royalty issues, why were these stars cut? Many of them were on the roster during production of the game, and even on the Smackdown intro to the game. In addition, they didn't remove Muhammad Hassan, so, I don't think there's any other excuse to not add these stars in the game.
Thoughts?
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 4, 2020 8:06:06 GMT -5
SVR 2006 is one of the best video games WWE ever produced. However, the one thing I don't get is that there were a huge number of cuts when talent were already released, such as Mark Jindrak and Charlie Haas. Does anyone know why stars like Kenzo Suzuki, Maven, Matt Morgan, Animal, Johnny Nitro, Joey Mercury, Melina, The Dudley Boyz, Victoria, Hardcore Holly, Juventus, Super Crazy, Psicosis, Luther Reigns, Rosey, and Big Vis were cut? Besides budget cuts and royalty issues, why were these stars cut? Many of them were on the roster during production of the game, and even on the Smackdown intro to the game. In addition, they didn't remove Muhammad Hassan, so, I don't think there's any other excuse to not add these stars in the game. Thoughts? !_vs._Raw_2006 You might want to read this article, and you can't really say that Morgan, Holly, Mexicools, MNM, Victoria, Rosey and Viscera were cut because they were never going to be included in the first place. |
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Sept 4, 2020 9:15:36 GMT -5
SVR 2006 is one of the best video games WWE ever produced. However, the one thing I don't get is that there were a huge number of cuts when talent were already released, such as Mark Jindrak and Charlie Haas. Does anyone know why stars like Kenzo Suzuki, Maven, Matt Morgan, Animal, Johnny Nitro, Joey Mercury, Melina, The Dudley Boyz, Victoria, Hardcore Holly, Juventus, Super Crazy, Psicosis, Luther Reigns, Rosey, and Big Vis were cut? Besides budget cuts and royalty issues, why were these stars cut? Many of them were on the roster during production of the game, and even on the Smackdown intro to the game. In addition, they didn't remove Muhammad Hassan, so, I don't think there's any other excuse to not add these stars in the game. Thoughts? !_vs._Raw_2006 You might want to read this article, and you can't really say that Morgan, Holly, Mexicools, MNM, Victoria, Rosey and Viscera were cut because they were never going to be included in the first place. Right, but they were on the active roster for the majority of that year, anyway. So, they probably should have been included; at least I think so |
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 4, 2020 10:46:25 GMT -5
tcrf.net/WWE_SmackDown!_vs._Raw_2006 You might want to read this article, and you can't really say that Morgan, Holly, Mexicools, MNM, Victoria, Rosey and Viscera were cut because they were never going to be included in the first place. Right, but they were on the active roster for the majority of that year, anyway. So, they probably should have been included; at least I think so The roster cutoff was around WrestleMania at the time, they weren't going to add anyone else after April. Holly and Victoria were active the whole year but they just didn't make the cut. |
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Post by l3ddr4u65tur on Sept 9, 2020 16:27:42 GMT -5
SvR 06 was released in October of 2005 and the game started developing pretty much a year before that. So the final roster decisions were made in the beginning of 2005.
Some names you mentioned, like MNM, didn't appear till April of that year so they wouldn't have been included. Others like The Dudleys or Maven had contracts were about to run out or weren't being used very much.
I can't explain why Victoria was not there though. She was one of the top women wrestlers the WWE had at the time and was constantly on TV from '03-'08. What made less about her not being there was they had moves that only she did like the Widows Peak in the wrestler customization feature. She wasn't in any SvR game until 2009, I think, but she was already out of the company months before that game was released. WWE and THQ just kept shoving inept performers like Kelly Kelly and Maryse down our throat.
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Post by The Shiniest Wizard on Sept 9, 2020 18:22:29 GMT -5
Maven being cut was the biggest travesty. Scott Jay on YouTube just realesed his mod of this game with all these people put back in minus Maven, Juventus, Super Crazy, Psicosis, Luther Reigns, Rosey, and Big Vis. He added people like Bobby Lashley, Ken Kennedy, Rhyno, A-Train, Rico and a couple of others. Really worth checking it out. A couple YouTube videos showing them off too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 6:00:13 GMT -5
tcrf.net/WWE_SmackDown!_vs._Raw_2006 You might want to read this article, and you can't really say that Morgan, Holly, Mexicools, MNM, Victoria, Rosey and Viscera were cut because they were never going to be included in the first place. Right, but they were on the active roster for the majority of that year, anyway. So, they probably should have been included; at least I think so You also have to remember that the PS2 era games were put on DVD. Space was a real concern, you weren't going to get the insanely inflated rosters you get in the PS3 era games and especially the current gen games. |
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Post by TheXtremisT on Sept 12, 2020 9:21:20 GMT -5
SvR 06 was released in October of 2005 and the game started developing pretty much a year before that. So the final roster decisions were made in the beginning of 2005. Some names you mentioned, like MNM, didn't appear till April of that year so they wouldn't have been included. So by your logic, Umaga and The Great Khali shouldn't have been in SvR 07, but they were and they debuted in April 2006 too. The cut off point for character models is usually May if you compare to past games, but in earlier games these were slightly later, say July/Aug (like Shut Your Mouth having models and movesets for Rey Mysterio, Batista and Jamie Noble. All of whom debuted in June that year, therefore their models were presumably developed in July/Aug but weren't completed, hence why they were in CAW mode only. Obviously the earlier games they didn't have to go as in depth with the models and animations. But if Khali and Umaga were in the WWE in April 2006 and made it to the game, then MNM and Deuce n Domino should have been included in the years they debuted. In this case I'd say it may have come down to WWE's in put and choices of who to make, and how big of a deal they would be on tv long-term. |
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 12, 2020 10:39:52 GMT -5
If you really want to play MNM in SVR 2006, it's definitively possible to mod it and add their SVR 2007 models. I don't think they're even missing much moves, just the snapshot and some taunts?
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Post by l3ddr4u65tur on Sept 16, 2020 23:56:07 GMT -5
SvR 06 was released in October of 2005 and the game started developing pretty much a year before that. So the final roster decisions were made in the beginning of 2005. Some names you mentioned, like MNM, didn't appear till April of that year so they wouldn't have been included. So by your logic, Umaga and The Great Khali shouldn't have been in SvR 07, but they were and they debuted in April 2006 too. The cut off point for character models is usually May if you compare to past games, but in earlier games these were slightly later, say July/Aug (like Shut Your Mouth having models and movesets for Rey Mysterio, Batista and Jamie Noble. All of whom debuted in June that year, therefore their models were presumably developed in July/Aug but weren't completed, hence why they were in CAW mode only. Obviously the earlier games they didn't have to go as in depth with the models and animations. But if Khali and Umaga were in the WWE in April 2006 and made it to the game, then MNM and Deuce n Domino should have been included in the years they debuted. In this case I'd say it may have come down to WWE's in put and choices of who to make, and how big of a deal they would be on tv long-term. You make a good point, but creative knew that Khali and Umaga would be pushed to the moon from the very beginning (and they were, for better or for worse) that upcoming year to be 2 of their top heals, so it would make more sense for them to be chosen for svr07. But I still stand by my previous post. Though MNM had a great push (and deservedly so) right when they got there in April 2005, WWE didn't seem to be as confident with their appeal in the upcoming game that year and there may be a valid reason for that. MNM had no experience with prominent promotions. Mercury had been in various indies and Nitro and Melinas only experience (besides a few appearances on raw and smackdown) in the wrestling business was teaming with Mercury. As a team they were green and fresh out of OVW just a month before the final roster cut was made (if you believe the cut was made by May as mentioned in your post) for svr06. Umaga and Khali had experience in more notable promotions (Khali in WCW and NJPW and Umaga with a previous push in WWE) which would have given WWE confidence for them to get over earlier and have appeal in the upcoming svr07. |
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 17, 2020 11:15:02 GMT -5
Maven being cut was the biggest travesty. Scott Jay on YouTube just realesed his mod of this game with all these people put back in minus Maven, Juventus, Super Crazy, Psicosis, Luther Reigns, Rosey, and Big Vis. He added people like Bobby Lashley, Ken Kennedy, Rhyno, A-Train, Rico and a couple of others. Really worth checking it out. A couple YouTube videos showing them off too. I just watched this last night and you weren't kidding, it looks like he replaced the divas (SVR 2006 probably has the worst womens roster anyways) and added the following people: A-Train Animal Bobby Lashley Bubba Ray Dudley Chuck Palumbo D-Von Dudley Goldust Hawk Hardcore Holly Jeff Hardy Jerry Lawler (ring gear) Joey Mercury Johnny Nitro Ken Kennedy Mark Henry Matt Hardy Melina (not normally selectable) Mr. McMahon (assuming he has ring gear) Rhyno Rico Roddy Piper Shane McMahon Tazz (ring gear) Sick! |
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 17, 2020 11:39:04 GMT -5
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Post by l3ddr4u65tur on Sept 17, 2020 11:42:52 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy was my only caw for this game since they had his attire and in the cam there was a ton of moves that were his exclusively. Gave him the 2002 short hair look but dyed red. Looked fairly spot on.
I remember loving the graphics of this game. It was the first to use face scans in any wwe game, I believe. Looking at this screen shot though I thought for a second it was an N64 wrestling game lol!
Makes me realize how far graphics have come over the last 2 generations of consoles.
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Post by pfrchaos on Apr 4, 2021 7:16:41 GMT -5
MAVEN AND LUTHER REIGNS
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Post by Nitro on May 21, 2021 18:43:02 GMT -5
It's nice to see Luther Reigns and Maven put back in and it sucks that they were cut but I personally always felt that it was a crying shame Viscera wasn't included in 06. Not only was he significantly harder to create than any of the other cut wrestlers, but it was literally the only opportunity for his 04-05 darkness gimmick to be in a game since he became the love machine in time for the 07 release (which was a much lamer gimmick in my view) and Big Daddy V afterwards. In 04 and 05 he was involved in feuds with both Undertaker and Kane plus he stuck around as an active talent so there was really no excuse to not include him in my view. Gangrel I could understand not being there as he was cut in 04 but he was much easier to create.
I've tried recommending him for Scott Jay's modded version as I think it would really complete the roster but I get the sense he doesn't give a damn which is a shame.
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