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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 19, 2020 16:34:34 GMT -5
Cause how else are you gonna get your line regularly in Big Lots and 5 Below?
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Post by BaLoR RoLLiNS on Sept 19, 2020 17:08:47 GMT -5
Wow! Because families like my brothers that has 2 kids can only afford basics.
So I wonder if that's why
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Post by LK3 on Sept 19, 2020 18:26:54 GMT -5
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Post by LA Times on Sept 19, 2020 18:33:27 GMT -5
Elitists are missing out on some great figures if they refuse to buy any Basics. The guy in the video said he didnt know why Carlito never got an Elite, but he was on his way out of the company by 2010.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 19, 2020 18:55:15 GMT -5
Basics are the main selling point of Mattels figure line. They're affordable and are released in a far bigger volume than Elites. Not only that, some Basics IMO look better than Elites.
Also kids don't care about articulation. I grew up during the BCA era and all I cared about was finding a figure of each guy on the roster.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Sept 19, 2020 18:55:53 GMT -5
Years ago when my son was just 3, at Christmas he got his first 4 figures and a basic ring. He got a basic triple h and undertaker that came with the ring, a basic flashback Kane and elite Giant. We have never bought a basic since if not for a headswap.
The basic undertaker is the only figure we’ve ever had that broke. (Triple h got eaten by our dog)
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Sept 19, 2020 19:21:26 GMT -5
Everyone gets so down when they’re figure is made as a basic when it could’ve been elite why not cut out basic and just focus on elite? Because you’ll lose a ton of customers if you’re lowest priced figure is $19.99? It’s actually pretty simple to understand.
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Post by Eric on Sept 19, 2020 19:54:51 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but we're probably a little biased here. I'm not big on Basics, but I bet they sell more Basics than Elites.
It reminds of Masters of the Universe Classics and how we collectors couldn't understand why they wouldn't go retail. Made all the sense in the world to us, but it was the best thing ever created in our minds, too. haha
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Post by wrestlingfan0815 on Sept 19, 2020 20:04:15 GMT -5
Everyone gets so down when they’re figure is made as a basic when it could’ve been elite why not cut out basic and just focus on elite? Because you’ll lose a ton of customers if you’re lowest priced figure is $19.99? It’s actually pretty simple to understand. plus there’s less elite sets than basics so it would be hard to fit every new superstar in the elite line, I know some people will say take styles and Finn elites out which one per case instead of 2 ok but they also need some bigger stars in elite sets.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Sept 19, 2020 21:22:22 GMT -5
I'd just like to know why they've almost completely wiped out Flashbacks from the basic and battle pack lines? I get that they're for kids, but certain characters will sell (and be bought by parents) just because they look cool, plus many of us adult collectors might be more likely to buy them. Because collectors are more likely to buy lines with elite+ articulation. Plus every time they made a cool attire as a basic (like blue Rated R Edge for example) everyone here gets upset because it’s not an elite or better Of course, but they're more likely to buy a basic if it's a flashback, plus it's a good way of getting out attires that perhaps aren't significant enough to do as Elites.
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Post by airbud on Sept 19, 2020 21:59:36 GMT -5
Basics exist for headswaps.
My son’s collection are all basics with no true-FX. But my elites look fantastic.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Sept 19, 2020 23:52:38 GMT -5
I'm going to do my best to explain how the budget works in a simple way so that hopefully people can quit saying they should cancel Basics or some other subline and push all that money to the Elite.
I'm going to be using made up numbers here.
Say it costs $15 to make an Elite that sells for 20 dollars. $5 to make a Basic that sells for $10.
If Mattel cancels the basic figures and uses that budget for Elites, then the elites would cost $20 to make. They aren't going to sell toys right at the break even point. So the price of elites would go up to cover the cost of higher budget.
And then, Mattel isnt going to want to spend more money just to make the amount they were making before. So the price of the Elites would rise by more than $5 so they can make their money. Elites would be around $27 or so.
There are way too many posts around here saying that Mattel should cancel so and so line to add to the elites budget and make them cheaper, but the opposite of that would be true.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Sept 20, 2020 0:08:59 GMT -5
Because collectors are more likely to buy lines with elite+ articulation. Plus every time they made a cool attire as a basic (like blue Rated R Edge for example) everyone here gets upset because it’s not an elite or better Of course, but they're more likely to buy a basic if it's a flashback, plus it's a good way of getting out attires that perhaps aren't significant enough to do as Elites. And there many who still refuse because they don’t want basics
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Post by dpd1967 on Sept 20, 2020 3:36:10 GMT -5
And that my friends is a basic answer.
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Post by PJ on Sept 20, 2020 4:44:16 GMT -5
Basics = $
Mattel makes their money when the retailers order the product. And basics are pretty much sold in every major retailer that has a toy department including supermarkets, pharmacy’s, discount stores and mom and pop stores. Elites don’t have that kind of retail presence or sales. So basics aren’t going anywhere.
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Post by Squared² on Sept 20, 2020 5:09:35 GMT -5
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Post by kaleb9 on Sept 20, 2020 5:19:11 GMT -5
I don’t collect basics I sometimes get them for the first time in the lines and sometimes for my little cousin
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Post by MrOrange100 on Sept 20, 2020 6:54:50 GMT -5
The basic line gives the buyer more options. I don’t know why anyone would want to take it away. For instance, I would never pay the inflated price for the rare Liv Morgan elite but thanks to the basic line I have a very decent representation of her in my collection. There are also plenty of wrestlers who’ve only been released as basic figures. As someone who just displays my figures I only care so much about possibility. I’ve also found ways to spruce up the look of some of my basics with unused elite accessories I had lying around.
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Post by taserface on Sept 20, 2020 8:10:39 GMT -5
I'm going to do my best to explain how the budget works in a simple way so that hopefully people can quit saying they should cancel Basics or some other subline and push all that money to the Elite. I'm going to be using made up numbers here. Say it costs $15 to make an Elite that sells for 20 dollars. $5 to make a Basic that sells for $10. If Mattel cancels the basic figures and uses that budget for Elites, then the elites would cost $20 to make. They aren't going to sell toys right at the break even point. So the price of elites would go up to cover the cost of higher budget. And then, Mattel isnt going to want to spend more money just to make the amount they were making before. So the price of the Elites would rise by more than $5 so they can make their money. Elites would be around $27 or so. There are way too many posts around here saying that Mattel should cancel so and so line to add to the elites budget and make them cheaper, but the opposite of that would be true. First off let me sad I do NOT believe Basics should go away. They are for kids and they probably outsell Elites 5x over Just wanted to ask, using your logic about budget, I get that with the Basics/Elites comparison, but where do all the other doomed to fail from the launch lines factor in? Zombies, Monsters, Tough Talkers, Flex Force, Rumblers, etc Wouldn’t the money / cost of time / molds, end up as a huge loss? Wouldn’t that effect the overall pot of money to be spent on the core Basics and Elites?
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Post by The Coach on Sept 20, 2020 10:47:33 GMT -5
I hate that we have to see this kind of post about once every 7 weeks and you will see it again in another 7 weeks and another after that 🤔 Yeah people don’t understand the reason for price points. Basic cost a certain amount to produce. Elites cost a certain amount to produce. Cancelling a line doesn’t make the other one any cheaper to produce. Basics have their place, and there are some gems every so often, still. Lars Sullivan was a great basic, as was Mike Kanellis. It just depends on the figure. Parents will buy basics, though. It’s cost effective.
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