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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Nov 7, 2020 21:24:57 GMT -5
I have that Jakks Classic Deluxe 2-pack Undertaker and Kane set and which came out good. Jakks were always good with soft goods accessories but if Mattel go down that road with Rubber for his entrance attire that would su$k. Wrestlemania 14 Undertaker is the only version Mattel has completely refused to make and its the one I mainly want. Perhaps the cost is too high to produce the entrance robe? I highly doubt it’s the cost of the jacket, it’ll more than likely be made of plastic/rubber to capture all the detail. I think they’ve just been holding out on that attire like they do with most sought after/requested attires. In a sense I’m glad they have, because otherwise they would of just given him laced boots and elite articulation. What I’m really concerned about is how they’ll recreate his hair. I think the Jakks version was really nice even though it had a bobble head.
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Post by hbkowns on Nov 7, 2020 22:15:33 GMT -5
‘98 Taker was what immediately came to mind. WM 14 or Summerslam.
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Post by zen411 on Nov 7, 2020 22:27:14 GMT -5
I'm not competing with wrestlemania 14 because I think that is most deserving.
But I would really like a 1991 through 1994 gray gloves taker. Sure we just gor debut Taker but I want one with the eyes rolled back look and fuller hair and proper hair over face on another head. I would like the vulture from wrestlemania 9 and maybe Kamalas coffin lid. Reaper tattoo on forearm.
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Post by Warrior Wildness on Nov 7, 2020 22:44:56 GMT -5
I'm not competing with wrestlemania 14 because I think that is most deserving. But I would really like a 1991 through 1994 gray gloves taker. Sure we just gor debut Taker but I want one with the eyes rolled back look and fuller hair and proper hair over face on another head. I would like the vulture from wrestlemania 9 and maybe Kamalas coffin lid. Reaper tattoo on forearm. Couldn’t agree more.
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Post by omartheterror on Nov 8, 2020 2:01:54 GMT -5
1997 King of the Ring Undertaker. That’s all I want!!!! I just went and looked up this attire and had no recollection at all that he had a title match against Farooq.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 7:29:33 GMT -5
But I would really like a 1991 through 1994 gray gloves taker. Sure we just gor debut Taker but I want one with the eyes rolled back look and fuller hair and proper hair over face on another head. I would like the vulture from wrestlemania 9 and maybe Kamalas coffin lid. Reaper tattoo on forearm. Yes! Yes! Yes! To me, all other Undertakers are 2nd fiddle to the original dead man.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 9, 2020 20:13:21 GMT -5
I'm not competing with wrestlemania 14 because I think that is most deserving. But I would really like a 1991 through 1994 gray gloves taker. Sure we just gor debut Taker but I want one with the eyes rolled back look and fuller hair and proper hair over face on another head. I would like the vulture from wrestlemania 9 and maybe Kamalas coffin lid. Reaper tattoo on forearm. Even though I already have grey gloves Wrestlemania elite, this would be awesome. If they could get the hair correct, big bushy red hair covering his face as he looked a lot of the time at the end of matches would be awesome. Kamala lid and vulture would also be immense.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Nov 9, 2020 20:28:03 GMT -5
1998 Taker is the one I want
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Post by gambit944 on Nov 23, 2020 3:01:46 GMT -5
Honestly if you take the Fiend into account there is no rule saying something made before can’t be made again in UE format.
To me all the old school takers are more or less done. sure WM 14 would be welcome but I’d go on a limb and say that is not the definitive undertaker.
The definitive undertaker for me is 2007. He was in the best shape of his life he had the most refined move set of his career and he had his deadman gimmick perfected to a tee.
I believe in the legacy of his career many will look back at 2006/2007 as the very peak of the undertaker.
They really need to to a situation with his traditional long black leather jacket that doesn’t suck and for me this is a perfect opportunity with the UE line to do so with the interchangeable articulated arms
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Nov 23, 2020 3:14:36 GMT -5
Honestly if you take the Fiend into account there is no rule saying something made before can’t be made again in UE format. To me all the old school takers are more or less done. sure WM 14 would be welcome but I’d go on a limb and say that is not the definitive undertaker. The definitive undertaker for me is 2007. He was in the best shape of his life he had the most refined move set of his career and he had his deadman gimmick perfected to a tee. I believe in the legacy of his career many will look back at 2006/2007 as the very peak of the undertaker. They really need to to a situation with his traditional long black leather jacket that doesn’t suck and for me this is a perfect opportunity with the UE line to do so with the interchangeable articulated arms 1997, 1998, 1999 were the Undertakers peak imo. The character went away from the hat and coat Undertaker and morphed to the lord of Darkness with alot of great matches and memorable moments. My favorite version will always be his Ministry look and the whole darker side he changed too at the time.
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Post by hbkfan on Nov 23, 2020 5:48:31 GMT -5
Honestly if you take the Fiend into account there is no rule saying something made before can’t be made again in UE format. To me all the old school takers are more or less done. sure WM 14 would be welcome but I’d go on a limb and say that is not the definitive undertaker. The definitive undertaker for me is 2007. He was in the best shape of his life he had the most refined move set of his career and he had his deadman gimmick perfected to a tee. I believe in the legacy of his career many will look back at 2006/2007 as the very peak of the undertaker. They really need to to a situation with his traditional long black leather jacket that doesn’t suck and for me this is a perfect opportunity with the UE line to do so with the interchangeable articulated arms 1997, 1998, 1999 were the Undertakers peak imo. The character went away from the hat and coat Undertaker and morphed to the lord of Darkness with alot of great matches and memorable moments. My favorite version will always be his Ministry look and the whole darker side he changed too at the time. Nope. 2006 - 2007 was his peak. What memorable match did he have during tha period? The WM one with Bossman? Character and wrestling wise his peak was from 2006 to 2012. There was when he had most of his 5 stars performance matches in comparison.
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Post by judas on Nov 23, 2020 6:22:14 GMT -5
I’d love a wm14 taker done properly with a bonus ministry goatee head but while it sounds harsh I just don’t trust the man who can’t be criticised to not mess it up. I know full well it’ll be the wrong boots, sun tan skin tone and the new legends head with the bangs. Ugh.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 23, 2020 6:53:04 GMT -5
Honestly if you take the Fiend into account there is no rule saying something made before can’t be made again in UE format. To me all the old school takers are more or less done. sure WM 14 would be welcome but I’d go on a limb and say that is not the definitive undertaker. The definitive undertaker for me is 2007. He was in the best shape of his life he had the most refined move set of his career and he had his deadman gimmick perfected to a tee. I believe in the legacy of his career many will look back at 2006/2007 as the very peak of the undertaker. They really need to to a situation with his traditional long black leather jacket that doesn’t suck and for me this is a perfect opportunity with the UE line to do so with the interchangeable articulated arms 1997, 1998, 1999 were the Undertakers peak imo. The character went away from the hat and coat Undertaker and morphed to the lord of Darkness with alot of great matches and memorable moments. My favorite version will always be his Ministry look and the whole darker side he changed too at the time. I loved ministry Taker and honestly I think it gets brushed over too much. I loved the whole story at the time. Yeah looking back now it might feel silly but if you look back at any of your favourite wrestling eras through the eyes of your adulthood then you’re only spoiling it for yourself. You have to always look back at wrestling and how you felt at that time as a kid. I really hope we get a better ministry taker elite one day. I’m not a huge fan of going over old ground time and again with figures but the ministry ones released so far are WAAAAAAY too cartoon like in the ‘scans’ - looks like a comic book version and I’d love a true fx version from the time (not just a scan from today stuck on a 1999 body either!) I understand that 2007 etc was awesome in terms of matches and I love and respect those matches, I’m a huge Taker mark so I love everything he’s done BUT 2007 doesn’t hold those special feelings or particularly nostalgic memories for me, it’s a time where I was older and a little more smartened up. In my view 1998 Taker is clearly needed but it would be more suited to an Elite. It wouldn’t be THAT expensive to do (new head sculpt and coat not too much to ask for an elite!!) there’s no need for a UE as it wouldn’t really utilise the extra heads to their potential. The whole point to a UE for me comes down to the additional heads. Yeah the attire too like the upcoming Macho I’m sure will justify but if the heads aren’t utilised in a cool way or the scans suck then the UE might as well just be an average elite. Wrestlemania 9 period of Taker would make the best UE I think. I know we’ve had a grey gloves undertaker not long back but the potential for the extra heads are the best in this period. As my picture above shows, big hair infront of the face, eyes rolled back, the face he pulled when choking someone in the corner, the face and hair when Paul Bearer is pulling his hair trying to hold him back. Endless awesome potential for the ULTIMATE and definitive Undertaker figure. They could also give us some cool accessories like a re-release of the original urn (it’s only been released once with HOC Paul Bearer) maybe one or two of the later urns too (one had handles another was bigger with a light inside) - he could come with the crow and stand, a coffin lid as someone else suggested maybe with Kamala paint on it. Soooo many options that a 1998 doesn’t offer.
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Post by dman970 on Nov 23, 2020 8:13:44 GMT -5
I'd love a Survivor Series 1991 WWF Champion Undertaker.
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Post by newgenandy on Nov 23, 2020 13:24:51 GMT -5
He really has had a unique career covering:
Golden era New Gen Attitude era Ruthless aggression PG Era
On top of the eras so many versions:
Original ‘Purple pirate’ Darker era / ministry ABA Deadman inc Return to the deadman etc
I think he needs more than an ultimate. There was that 5 figure pack before, imo something along those lines. 5 figures, ultimate articulation, box art of a cemetery or similar, loads and loads of accessories from an original funeral parlour coffin and casket to others from other eras
I know this would never happen and cost so much and be only for a certain type of collector but no one will ever match his longevity covering so many pivotal eras again.
Maybe if Mattel were ever going to do a hasbro labs style funding campaign this would be the one. Then for every stretch goal milestone they could add more accessories, a Druid etc
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Post by venomeratt on Nov 23, 2020 13:56:53 GMT -5
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Nov 23, 2020 21:03:50 GMT -5
1997, 1998, 1999 were the Undertakers peak imo. The character went away from the hat and coat Undertaker and morphed to the lord of Darkness with alot of great matches and memorable moments. My favorite version will always be his Ministry look and the whole darker side he changed too at the time. Nope. 2006 - 2007 was his peak. What memorable match did he have during tha period? The WM one with Bossman? Character and wrestling wise his peak was from 2006 to 2012. There was when he had most of his 5 stars performance matches in comparison. Badd Blood 1997, Summerslam 1997, Wrestlemania 14, Unforgiven 1998, King of the Ring 1998, and Backlash 1999. I know there is more matches but that's the ones that come to mind between 1997 and 1999.
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Nov 23, 2020 21:08:30 GMT -5
1997, 1998, 1999 were the Undertakers peak imo. The character went away from the hat and coat Undertaker and morphed to the lord of Darkness with alot of great matches and memorable moments. My favorite version will always be his Ministry look and the whole darker side he changed too at the time. I loved ministry Taker and honestly I think it gets brushed over too much. I loved the whole story at the time. Yeah looking back now it might feel silly but if you look back at any of your favourite wrestling eras through the eyes of your adulthood then you’re only spoiling it for yourself. You have to always look back at wrestling and how you felt at that time as a kid. I really hope we get a better ministry taker elite one day. I’m not a huge fan of going over old ground time and again with figures but the ministry ones released so far are WAAAAAAY too cartoon like in the ‘scans’ - looks like a comic book version and I’d love a true fx version from the time (not just a scan from today stuck on a 1999 body either!) I understand that 2007 etc was awesome in terms of matches and I love and respect those matches, I’m a huge Taker mark so I love everything he’s done BUT 2007 doesn’t hold those special feelings or particularly nostalgic memories for me, it’s a time where I was older and a little more smartened up. In my view 1998 Taker is clearly needed but it would be more suited to an Elite. It wouldn’t be THAT expensive to do (new head sculpt and coat not too much to ask for an elite!!) there’s no need for a UE as it wouldn’t really utilise the extra heads to their potential. The whole point to a UE for me comes down to the additional heads. Yeah the attire too like the upcoming Macho I’m sure will justify but if the heads aren’t utilised in a cool way or the scans suck then the UE might as well just be an average elite. Wrestlemania 9 period of Taker would make the best UE I think. I know we’ve had a grey gloves undertaker not long back but the potential for the extra heads are the best in this period. As my picture above shows, big hair infront of the face, eyes rolled back, the face he pulled when choking someone in the corner, the face and hair when Paul Bearer is pulling his hair trying to hold him back. Endless awesome potential for the ULTIMATE and definitive Undertaker figure. They could also give us some cool accessories like a re-release of the original urn (it’s only been released once with HOC Paul Bearer) maybe one or two of the later urns too (one had handles another was bigger with a light inside) - he could come with the crow and stand, a coffin lid as someone else suggested maybe with Kamala paint on it. Soooo many options that a 1998 doesn’t offer. The Ministry was awesome but did have some problems. The Ministry of Darkness was suppose to be a heel faction but during that time fans still cheered Undertaker. So creative decided to merge the Ministry with the Corporation so Undertaker could get that heel heat. The merge was the biggest mistake and Undertaker was also working hurt atm. To me it was just his character and look that was appealing to me as a teenager. Anyways hopefully Wrestlemania 14 Undertaker gets made in UE.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 24, 2020 9:59:06 GMT -5
I loved ministry Taker and honestly I think it gets brushed over too much. I loved the whole story at the time. Yeah looking back now it might feel silly but if you look back at any of your favourite wrestling eras through the eyes of your adulthood then you’re only spoiling it for yourself. You have to always look back at wrestling and how you felt at that time as a kid. I really hope we get a better ministry taker elite one day. I’m not a huge fan of going over old ground time and again with figures but the ministry ones released so far are WAAAAAAY too cartoon like in the ‘scans’ - looks like a comic book version and I’d love a true fx version from the time (not just a scan from today stuck on a 1999 body either!) I understand that 2007 etc was awesome in terms of matches and I love and respect those matches, I’m a huge Taker mark so I love everything he’s done BUT 2007 doesn’t hold those special feelings or particularly nostalgic memories for me, it’s a time where I was older and a little more smartened up. In my view 1998 Taker is clearly needed but it would be more suited to an Elite. It wouldn’t be THAT expensive to do (new head sculpt and coat not too much to ask for an elite!!) there’s no need for a UE as it wouldn’t really utilise the extra heads to their potential. The whole point to a UE for me comes down to the additional heads. Yeah the attire too like the upcoming Macho I’m sure will justify but if the heads aren’t utilised in a cool way or the scans suck then the UE might as well just be an average elite. Wrestlemania 9 period of Taker would make the best UE I think. I know we’ve had a grey gloves undertaker not long back but the potential for the extra heads are the best in this period. As my picture above shows, big hair infront of the face, eyes rolled back, the face he pulled when choking someone in the corner, the face and hair when Paul Bearer is pulling his hair trying to hold him back. Endless awesome potential for the ULTIMATE and definitive Undertaker figure. They could also give us some cool accessories like a re-release of the original urn (it’s only been released once with HOC Paul Bearer) maybe one or two of the later urns too (one had handles another was bigger with a light inside) - he could come with the crow and stand, a coffin lid as someone else suggested maybe with Kamala paint on it. Soooo many options that a 1998 doesn’t offer. The Ministry was awesome but did have some problems. The Ministry of Darkness was suppose to be a heel faction but during that time fans still cheered Undertaker. So creative decided to merge the Ministry with the Corporation so Undertaker could get that heel heat. The merge was the biggest mistake and Undertaker was also working hurt atm. To me it was just his character and look that was appealing to me as a teenager. Anyways hopefully Wrestlemania 14 Undertaker gets made in UE. Yeah I remember, although mostly I've been a bit of a heel guy anyway. I mean, as a real young kid, obviously your Hogan's and Warriors and Taker as faces appealed to me but I did like Million Dollar Man and Macho as heels along with a few tag teams then as I started getting older I always kind of leant towards heels. I remember being frustrated with Taker not having the belt longer, particularly during that heel run as ministry taker, he lost it so quickly but I guess looking back now that was one of the occasions where he was supposed to have a run with it but got injured. Taker never 'needed' the belt but as a heel run (particularly when he was sided with Vince) it would have suited him to have it and Austin to be chasing for a long run, would have been awesome. It had to be injury that stopped that plan.
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Post by jokerjohn on Nov 24, 2020 10:09:11 GMT -5
Honestly if you take the Fiend into account there is no rule saying something made before can’t be made again in UE format. To me all the old school takers are more or less done. sure WM 14 would be welcome but I’d go on a limb and say that is not the definitive undertaker. The definitive undertaker for me is 2007. He was in the best shape of his life he had the most refined move set of his career and he had his deadman gimmick perfected to a tee. I believe in the legacy of his career many will look back at 2006/2007 as the very peak of the undertaker. They really need to to a situation with his traditional long black leather jacket that doesn’t suck and for me this is a perfect opportunity with the UE line to do so with the interchangeable articulated arms I agree in terms of match quality but anything after Ministry era to me is bland and boring in terms of action figure looks and accessories.
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