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Post by JC Motors on Nov 13, 2020 11:40:21 GMT -5
Jeremy strikes me as a Vince Russo type idea guy who needs a Vince McMahon type figure in place to filter through 80% of the stuff that floats from his brain to his mouth. You are absolutely 100% right. He has all of these radical ideas for new lines and he never goes through with them. |
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Post by CM Poor on Nov 13, 2020 11:49:38 GMT -5
Jeremy strikes me as a Vince Russo type idea guy who needs a Vince McMahon type figure in place to filter through 80% of the stuff that floats from his brain to his mouth. You are absolutely 100% right. He has all of these radical ideas for new lines and he never goes through with them. It's a shame, because at the heart of it, I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's enthusiastic, approachable, and in tune with the market, which are all things you'd want from someone in his position, at least on paper. I think the problem lies in a) allowing him to be the spokesperson for the line, without a leash, and b) allowing his market sensibilities to leverage as much influence as they appear to. You don't want him to have free reign to speak on behalf of the line, given his propensity for enthusiasm and to, perhaps, speak out of turn in regard to what's supposedly "coming", as it opens all sorts of mouths for one to stick their foot in. By that same token, we kinda clamor all the time for someone who has collectors in mind to take charge of these lines. Bill Miekina eats a ton of sh*t for toeing the line between gearing their product toward a split demographic, but honestly, that's easily the more happy middle ground when you slot somebody like Jeremy in. There's extremism on either side of the coin, and any line that isn't specifically driven toward adult collectors is going to suffer with that sort of influence behind it. |
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Post by JC Motors on Nov 13, 2020 11:54:57 GMT -5
You are absolutely 100% right. He has all of these radical ideas for new lines and he never goes through with them. It's a shame, because at the heart of it, I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's enthusiastic, approachable, and in tune with the market, which are all things you'd want from someone in his position, at least on paper. I think the problem lies in a) allowing him to be the spokesperson for the line, without a leash, and b) allowing his market sensibilities to leverage as much influence as they appear to. You don't want him to have free reign to speak on behalf of the line, given his propensity for enthusiasm and to, perhaps, speak out of turn in regard to what's supposedly "coming", as it opens all sorts of mouths for one to stick their foot in. By that same token, we kinda clamor all the time for someone who has collectors in mind to take charge of these lines. Bill Miekina eats a ton of sh*t for toeing the line between gearing their product toward a split demographic, but honestly, that's easily the more happy middle ground when you slot somebody like Jeremy in. There's extremism on either side of the coin, and any line that isn't specifically driven toward adult collectors is going to suffer with that sort of influence behind it. If you've follow Jeremy on Instagram he's always promoting rare first edition Pokemon cards. People don't want to see that they'd rather see the AEW stuff |
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Post by The Shiniest Wizard on Nov 13, 2020 12:04:39 GMT -5
Not saying none of the stuff he claims will happen, I’m just cynical until something tangible is seen He has a history of not delivering on promises. Remember he stated "Hangman's covered face scan just isn't pictured". When posting a pic of the figure on Twitter knowing it wasn't going to have it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 12:20:54 GMT -5
He has a history of not delivering on promises. Remember he stated "Hangman's covered face scan just isn't pictured". When posting a pic of the figure on Twitter knowing it wasn't going to have it. I also remember - Promising we'd see New Japan characters in the CS line which amounted to a Black Tiger Eddie Guerrero shown at Toy Fair which released without a mask because they didn't get the rights from the anime company - WrestleMania I Hogan having "picture perfect deco and a removable headband" - Deluxe Aggression being rescaled to the RA figures as a running change - Hasbro style figures making a return in the mid 2000s (this might not have been outright confirmed but he was heavily pushing the idea in one of the old WF chat room gimmicks) - Adrenaline 13 having a running change with RA arms instead of TTL arms Jeremy is a fun personality at points but his track record when it comes to keeping promises is not great. |
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Nov 13, 2020 17:02:36 GMT -5
You can add me it’s pretty easy to understand and he shoots straight he doesn’t even have to do some of the interviews he does but he’s 100% in on trying to build something and he is willing to engage at the grass roots of the hobby It's definitely an issue across the wrestling figure community. The owner of Pro Wrestling Tees was recently run out of a Micro Brawler group because people were throwing a fit because they changed their business model. He was super engaging, answered questions freely, gave a lot of heads up on sales, new figures, etc. Everyone acknowledges there were issues with the launch of the line, and that sucks. But they've obviously been proactive about making changes, and I for one am still looking forward to seeing how the line develops over time. The owner of PWTees is also a jackass so that probably didn’t help |
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Post by Warrior82 on Nov 13, 2020 18:42:26 GMT -5
So if Wave 3 ships from Hong Kong late November, and then has 40-60days to travel, shouldn't wave 3 be up for pre order soon on RSC?
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Nov 14, 2020 9:58:12 GMT -5
It's a shame, because at the heart of it, I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's enthusiastic, approachable, and in tune with the market, which are all things you'd want from someone in his position, at least on paper. I think the problem lies in a) allowing him to be the spokesperson for the line, without a leash, and b) allowing his market sensibilities to leverage as much influence as they appear to. You don't want him to have free reign to speak on behalf of the line, given his propensity for enthusiasm and to, perhaps, speak out of turn in regard to what's supposedly "coming", as it opens all sorts of mouths for one to stick their foot in. By that same token, we kinda clamor all the time for someone who has collectors in mind to take charge of these lines. Bill Miekina eats a ton of sh*t for toeing the line between gearing their product toward a split demographic, but honestly, that's easily the more happy middle ground when you slot somebody like Jeremy in. There's extremism on either side of the coin, and any line that isn't specifically driven toward adult collectors is going to suffer with that sort of influence behind it. If you've follow Jeremy on Instagram he's always promoting rare first edition Pokemon cards. People don't want to see that they'd rather see the AEW stuff i just looked at his instagram. why should he focus more on aew instead of pokemon? just curious |
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Post by Decky on Nov 14, 2020 10:27:20 GMT -5
He strikes me as a mad but likeable executive that wears cowboy boots in his office whilst snorting coke and bangin' h00kers. Like the Herb Abrams of disappointing toylines.
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Post by Hardcore Bill Johnson on Nov 14, 2020 14:51:13 GMT -5
It's a shame, because at the heart of it, I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's enthusiastic, approachable, and in tune with the market, which are all things you'd want from someone in his position, at least on paper. I think the problem lies in a) allowing him to be the spokesperson for the line, without a leash, and b) allowing his market sensibilities to leverage as much influence as they appear to. You don't want him to have free reign to speak on behalf of the line, given his propensity for enthusiasm and to, perhaps, speak out of turn in regard to what's supposedly "coming", as it opens all sorts of mouths for one to stick their foot in. By that same token, we kinda clamor all the time for someone who has collectors in mind to take charge of these lines. Bill Miekina eats a ton of sh*t for toeing the line between gearing their product toward a split demographic, but honestly, that's easily the more happy middle ground when you slot somebody like Jeremy in. There's extremism on either side of the coin, and any line that isn't specifically driven toward adult collectors is going to suffer with that sort of influence behind it. If you've follow Jeremy on Instagram he's always promoting rare first edition Pokemon cards. People don't want to see that they'd rather see the AEW stuff I don't care about Pokemon cards either but he's allowed to have other interests and use his personal social media for whatever he wants. |
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Post by guster on Nov 14, 2020 15:29:52 GMT -5
So if Wave 3 ships from Hong Kong late November, and then has 40-60days to travel, shouldn't wave 3 be up for pre order soon on RSC? I would expect to see them up this week. The 40-60 days travel Jeremy is talking about, is when they're shipped by boat. RSC has all their initial pre-orders shipped by air and get them ALOT quicker. It wouldn't surprise me when they put up pre-orders, those first sets will ship not too soon after. |
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Post by The Highwayman on Nov 14, 2020 15:41:04 GMT -5
Why is this board the most toxic wrestling figure community? All of y’all complaining are really nitpicking everything. He’s been up front about all the issues he has encountered in this line but you all just bitch and moan about him not delivering on promises back in the Jakks era. I guarantee he wasn’t trying to lie to you all. Look at the product he delivered. RA and CS were groundbreaking lines. That said, I have AEW Series 1 and 2. The skin tone is 100% fixed. The scale is off on a couple figures, but I could show you recent Mattel’s where the scale is  ed and that’s a company that should be running like a well-oiled machine, not one where there has been factory issues and a launch that was tainted by a global pandemic. There’s a reason why Jeremy is successful. There’s a reason why companies are chased away from forums like this. There’s also a reason I haven’t posted regularly here in years. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2020 15:50:21 GMT -5
Why is this board the most toxic wrestling figure community? It always has been, it's just now you have insane WWE and Mattel brand loyalty running wild on top of the usual. |
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Nov 14, 2020 16:07:13 GMT -5
Why is this board the most toxic wrestling figure community? It always has been, it's just now you have insane WWE and Mattel brand loyalty running wild on top of the usual. Do you even read the mattel board? |
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Post by The Highwayman on Nov 14, 2020 16:16:08 GMT -5
Why is this board the most toxic wrestling figure community? It always has been, it's just now you have insane WWE and Mattel brand loyalty running wild on top of the usual. I don’t know about Mattel loyalty. I remember when Mattel launched, this place was like a second civil war of Jakks vs Mattel. I think it’s less Mattel loyalty and more that people like to bitch about everything. Rather than acknowledge the excitement of another brand helping both the wrestling business and the wrestling figure business, they’d rather act all holier-than-thou and pretend they know anything about the process. It’s so frustrating. |
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Post by JC Motors on Nov 14, 2020 16:40:24 GMT -5
Not to sound like a pessimist here or anything. If Mattel couldn't make a Hasbro Retro line work, I don't think Jazwares could make it work either. They need to focus on fixing the distribution issues with the AEW line first before they start to explore other ideas.
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Post by JC Motors on Nov 14, 2020 16:44:15 GMT -5
If you've follow Jeremy on Instagram he's always promoting rare first edition Pokemon cards. People don't want to see that they'd rather see the AEW stuff I don't care about Pokemon cards either but he's allowed to have other interests and use his personal social media for whatever he wants. Very true. Everyone has their own Schtick with their content on social media. It just seems to me that Jeremy is fixated on the trading card market and other collectibles. |
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Nov 14, 2020 17:09:33 GMT -5
I don't care about Pokemon cards either but he's allowed to have other interests and use his personal social media for whatever he wants. Very true. Everyone has their own Schtick with their content on social media. It just seems to me that Jeremy is fixated on the trading card market and other collectibles. and he’s allowed to do that. at least he can separate work from play |
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Post by JC Motors on Nov 14, 2020 17:18:02 GMT -5
Very true. Everyone has their own Schtick with their content on social media. It just seems to me that Jeremy is fixated on the trading card market and other collectibles. and he’s allowed to do that. at least he can separate work from play I actually find it interesting that people are still willing to pay big bucks for rare Pokemon cards. I had no idea that people pay thousands of dollars for them |
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Post by The Highwayman on Nov 14, 2020 17:30:09 GMT -5
Not to sound like a pessimist here or anything. If Mattel couldn't make a Hasbro Retro line work, I don't think Jazwares could make it work either. They need to focus on fixing the distribution issues with the AEW line first before they start to explore other ideas. I don’t think they’d be able to make a Hasbro line work either. But, they’ve discussed and addressed the distribution problems. They have a plan there. They said Series 2 will still be tricky, but Series 3 and forward will be better. In the meantime, should they not plan for the future? |
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I dont know good luck 
