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Post by bWo on Nov 17, 2020 23:22:13 GMT -5
Best birthday present I've had in years, title back where it belongs đ Begs the question why have him lose at Hell in a Cell I'm the first place, but who cares! I'd argue Reigns/McIntyre is a Wrestlemania main event though, but I have no issue with it being at Survivor Series. I see a lot of that here. Zero expectations for logic, and zero reaction when they spit in your face. You should care that the show you're investing your time in and following closely are blatantly doing things that make absolutely no sense. We aren't just "wrasslin' fans" who should go along with anything they give us. Vince treats his wrestlers like sh*t and treats his fans just the same. I used to go to the wall for anything I saw on this show. During the "Monday Night Wars" we would have thrown hands if you were WCW. I'm 40 now though. My fanboy days are long behind me. I expect things to make sense. How many people in here have wondered why they broke up the Iiconics, and then just put Peyton with Laci Evans? WTF? Why? It's stupid. It deserves to be called stupid. One of many examples. It's not "complaining" it's reality.
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Post by Finn BĂĄlor #1 Fan on Nov 18, 2020 0:13:31 GMT -5
So happy Drew is champion again
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Post by AV1 on Nov 18, 2020 8:41:03 GMT -5
âOh Yes Sir, I can boogieâ Love that from Drew. Glad he got the title back and for him to win it in a flashier setting than it was at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Next Manufacturedâs Sweater on Nov 18, 2020 15:30:20 GMT -5
Best birthday present I've had in years, title back where it belongs đ Begs the question why have him lose at Hell in a Cell I'm the first place, but who cares! I'd argue Reigns/McIntyre is a Wrestlemania main event though, but I have no issue with it being at Survivor Series. I see a lot of that here. Zero expectations for logic, and zero reaction when they spit in your face. You should care that the show you're investing your time in and following closely are blatantly doing things that make absolutely no sense. We aren't just "wrasslin' fans" who should go along with anything they give us. Vince treats his wrestlers like sh*t and treats his fans just the same. I used to go to the wall for anything I saw on this show. During the "Monday Night Wars" we would have thrown hands if you were WCW. I'm 40 now though. My fanboy days are long behind me. I expect things to make sense. How many people in here have wondered why they broke up the Iiconics, and then just put Peyton with Laci Evans? WTF? Why? It's stupid. It deserves to be called stupid. One of many examples. It's not "complaining" it's reality. At 40, you should have more important things going on than getting all up in your feelings about wrestling and fantasising that an elderly man is mistreating you and spitting in your face lol. Also, maybe it was just different over here, but I really canât imagine anyone aged 15 or more was having actual fights over WWF and WCW during the Monday Night Wars.
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Post by bWo on Nov 18, 2020 19:15:08 GMT -5
I see a lot of that here. Zero expectations for logic, and zero reaction when they spit in your face. You should care that the show you're investing your time in and following closely are blatantly doing things that make absolutely no sense. We aren't just "wrasslin' fans" who should go along with anything they give us. Vince treats his wrestlers like sh*t and treats his fans just the same. I used to go to the wall for anything I saw on this show. During the "Monday Night Wars" we would have thrown hands if you were WCW. I'm 40 now though. My fanboy days are long behind me. I expect things to make sense. How many people in here have wondered why they broke up the Iiconics, and then just put Peyton with Laci Evans? WTF? Why? It's stupid. It deserves to be called stupid. One of many examples. It's not "complaining" it's reality. At 40, you should have more important things going on than getting all up in your feelings about wrestling and fantasising that an elderly man is mistreating you and spitting in your face lol. Also, maybe it was just different over here, but I really canât imagine anyone aged 15 or more was having actual fights over WWF and WCW during the Monday Night Wars.
So at 40 people just turn off their opinions? If a 40 year old watches a movie they should just come out numb? They shouldn't have an opinion because it's only a movie and they should have other things to worry about? What age does that start at? Does a 30 year old have other things to worry about other than a tv show? Does a 25 year old working 2 jobs to raise their kids have more important things going on and shouldn't have an opinion/critique? What about a teenager doing everything possible to get the grades needed to get into the university of their choice? What age brings forth the injection of "important things" that should disqualify a person from having an opinion on something? A hell in a cell match ended because "it was too violent." What age do you have to be to not care about that?
Fantasizing? Even some of the shiniest knights in shining armor here will admit that Vince often treats his fan base like dogs. He's in charge. He doesn't care what you want. He doesn't care what you like. We get what he wants. If he makes a decision and then changes his mind shortly after, you have to accept it. There are ENDLESS examples of wrestlers saying the same thing. There's nothing fantasy about that.
Sports fans get into fights with other rival fans. It's a thing regardless of whether you imagine it or not.
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Post by bWo on Nov 19, 2020 18:02:27 GMT -5
Shame people are forced to watch and forced to be here. Oh look. And another Vince McMahon savior to the rescue......... Nothing about what Iâm saying is forced. Iâve been watching WWF/E for 35 years. Iâm a wrestling fan. Some fans occasionally put their WWE pom poms down when they tune in. You oughta try some time.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 19, 2020 20:06:35 GMT -5
Shame people are forced to watch and forced to be here. Oh look. And another Vince McMahon savior to the rescue......... Nothing about what Iâm saying is forced. Iâve been watching WWF/E for 35 years. Iâm a wrestling fan. Some fans occasionally put their WWE pom poms down when they tune in. You oughta try some time. And some fans don't feel the need to get angry or play the victim over a tv show. Try it sometime.
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Post by bWo on Nov 20, 2020 0:41:53 GMT -5
Oh look. And another Vince McMahon savior to the rescue......... Nothing about what Iâm saying is forced. Iâve been watching WWF/E for 35 years. Iâm a wrestling fan. Some fans occasionally put their WWE pom poms down when they tune in. You oughta try some time. And some fans don't feel the need to get angry or play the victim over a tv show. Try it sometime. So you've circled back to people should just accept what they get from Raw with no questions asked and no critiques given because it's just a tv show. Don't bother with expectations, just smile. And if you don't like everything you see and tell people you don't like everything you see, you're just "playing a victim." You're not allowed to be disappointed or you're just "playing a victim?" Does that approach apply to anything else or is it just your fail-safe way of defending Vince McMahon?
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Post by marino13 on Nov 20, 2020 11:33:49 GMT -5
And some fans don't feel the need to get angry or play the victim over a tv show. Try it sometime. So you've circled back to people should just accept what they get from Raw with no questions asked and no critiques given because it's just a tv show. Don't bother with expectations, just smile. And if you don't like everything you see and tell people you don't like everything you see, you're just "playing a victim." You're not allowed to be disappointed or you're just "playing a victim?" Does that approach apply to anything else or is it just your fail-safe way of defending Vince McMahon? It's rather simple, if you go around claiming that Vince is treating his fans like dogs and spitting in their face, you're playing the victim. Don't like what you're watching? Move on. Getting mad and fighting with people on a toy forum isn't going to change anything. Just like throwing hands with wCw fans didn't help either.
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Post by bWo on Nov 20, 2020 22:58:48 GMT -5
So you've circled back to people should just accept what they get from Raw with no questions asked and no critiques given because it's just a tv show. Don't bother with expectations, just smile. And if you don't like everything you see and tell people you don't like everything you see, you're just "playing a victim." You're not allowed to be disappointed or you're just "playing a victim?" Does that approach apply to anything else or is it just your fail-safe way of defending Vince McMahon? It's rather simple, if you go around claiming that Vince is treating his fans like dogs and spitting in their face, you're playing the victim. Don't like what you're watching? Move on. Getting mad and fighting with people on a toy forum isn't going to change anything. Just like throwing hands with wCw fans didn't help either.
"Claiming." Ha ha. What do you call a decision to end a Hell in a Cell match because it was too violent? That Vince McMahon decision was universally recognized as one of the worst finishes ever. It made zero sense. Wrestling fans everywhere agreed. Are they all "playing the victim." Was Everyone on here who was complaining about that garbage "playing the victim."
Another example of you having zero expectations and a willingness to swallow any tripe you're given. I see good things on Raw. I talk about them. I see bad things on Raw. I talk about them. Most people here do the same. Most. Don't devalue the board. It's not just a "toy forum." It's a message board with open threads that welcome discussion. You'll tell me to "move on" if I don't like what I see. Who exactly is forcing you to read my posts? You quote me and complain. Why? "Move on" when you get to my posts. It's rather simple right?
Maybe not but it certainly provided a lot of interesting memories.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 21, 2020 0:15:47 GMT -5
Who exactly is forcing you to read my posts? You quote me and complain. Why? "Move on" when you get to my posts. It's rather simple right?
I'm the WWE mod, it's my job to read the posts here. Duh.
"Claiming." Ha ha. What do you call a decision to end a Hell in a Cell match because it was too violent? That Vince McMahon decision was universally recognized as one of the worst finishes ever. It made zero sense. Wrestling fans everywhere agreed. Are they all "playing the victim." Was Everyone on here who was complaining about that garbage "playing the victim." Yeah the finish to Bray vs Seth sucked. But that was October of 2019. Over a year ago. Most moved on a long time ago. To say Vince treated you or anyone else like a dog or spit in their face over the finish to a match is in fact playing a victim.
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Nov 21, 2020 11:49:10 GMT -5
Boy this thread looking like what the political threads became. Coincidence? Lol
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Post by marino13 on Nov 21, 2020 13:10:21 GMT -5
I'm the WWE mod, it's my job to read the posts here. Duh.
Yeah the finish to Bray vs Seth sucked. But that was October of 2019. Over a year ago. Most moved on a long time ago. To say Vince treated you or anyone else like a dog or spit in their face over the finish to a match is in fact playing a victim.
I didn't realize I was talking to royalty. Still begs the question though your highness, you had to inject yourself into the conversation because what? I was talking about people watching Raw with no expectations, and BAM here you are. Your position appears to be that you don't want anything negative being said about WWE. You'd rather give them a pass for everything and just accept what they give you, call it great, and you expect others to do the same. There are parts of Raw that I like, but because I won't accept everything they give me I should just stop watching. I didn't know you were the mod of my TV?
And now you act like WWE hasn't done anything stupid in a over a year, which is funny because you're a mod who reads everyone's posts right? You'd think someone reading all the posts would see all the complains and questions about the booking. Take your blinders off, put your pom poms down, and maybe you will. Or are we all just "playing a victim?" Is that it? It's not you, it's EVERYONE ELSE? At what time did I say I was royalty? You asked why I was reading your posts and I explained. Now you're grasping.
When did I say you couldn't have an opinion? Bitch and moan all you want, some do, but you don't need to be fighting on these boards. Which you seem to do a lot. Just like when you quoted me calling me a white knight.
When did I say I was the mod of your TV? You quoted me first because I said nobody here was forced to watch. That's what started all this, you're obviously looking for a fight.
There's a difference in complaining about the booking and claiming you've been treated like a dog or had someone spit in your face. If I complain about Aleister's booking, I don't take it personal. That'd be childish.
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