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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 23, 2020 9:31:33 GMT -5
One of my favourite matches of all time, the first and in my opinion best Hell in a Cell match. It had everything, Shawn was amazing, Taker just phenomenal, HHH interference, blood, guts and of course, the debut of Kane.
With all the Taker stuff going on this weekend, it just made me think about Mattel figures and what we do and dont have from this match, which surely has to go down as one of the most historic matches ever?
I'm big on wanting to complete figure moments - famous survivor series teams, iconic matches etc and this one has so much. I think I'm right in saying we have the elite Shawn, it's been released twice with the European belt - I dont think its specifically from this match? the hair isn't the same anyway so I'm not sure if its an inaccurate figure or whether he wore the same attire more than once...either way I think we can check it off, right?
I know people want a 1998 Taker but im not sure exactly what the difference would be if they did this one from 1997? We really need a taker from this match. Kane we have had released, I dont personally have it and Im holding out in hope that they FINALLY do a new scan and boots etc and NAIL debut Kane in the ultimate line, would be cool if he came with the door he ripped off from the cell. Paul Bearer from this era is an absolute MUST! I really hope they do it, I know it will need a new head scan and that ginger-is hair he had...he was bigger then too than his previous figure releases but I'm hoping there is a body out there they could use if they cant afford to make a new one?? Bearer was crucial to the whole thing and was absolute gold around this time.
I'm guessing we'll never get an Earl Hebner?
What do we think are the chances of completing the line up? and what other huge moments or matches/teams do you guys really need Mattel to complete? Bret Hart to go with UE Shawn for the screw job another iconic moment that springs to mind.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Nov 23, 2020 9:44:51 GMT -5
The E19 HBK is indeed based specifically on Badd Blood (and the hair is the same).   |
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 23, 2020 9:49:53 GMT -5
The E19 HBK is indeed based specifically on Badd Blood (and the hair is the same). Thanks man, im not great with adding pictures on here - this makes me happy, mine is still MOC and in my head Shawn had a thin ponytail at the back in this match, I've never seen the back of the figure! Glad it is from this match though - makes it even more weird that we've not had the Taker from it, as the Shawn was released so long ago! |
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Post by stc13 on Nov 23, 2020 9:51:03 GMT -5
The 98 Taker that is so often asked for would be pretty much the same as the Badd Blood attire. Earl Hebner from Mattel will never happen, but it's at least possible in the AEW line. I believe he's still signed there, even though he hasn't worked a match in over a year. I think Bearer is a longshot unfortunately.
That match has some major nostalgia for me as well. It was one of the few PPV's I saw live as a kid, and remember being totally shocked and amazed by Kane's debut.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 23, 2020 9:56:12 GMT -5
The 98 Taker that is so often asked for would be pretty much the same as the Badd Blood attire. Earl Hebner from Mattel will never happen, but it's at least possible in the AEW line. I believe he's still signed there, even though he hasn't worked a match in over a year. I think Bearer is a longshot unfortunately. That match has some major nostalgia for me as well. It was one of the few PPV's I saw live as a kid, and remember being totally shocked and amazed by Kane's debut. I remember wanting to buy the VHS from a Virgin Mega Store (dont know if these used to be a thing in the US? but they were in the UK) but I was 12 and when I found it in store it had an 18 certificate so I couldn't buy it, I was gutted. So I spent about an hour plucking up the courage to find a random adult that I thought looked trustworthy and sympathetic who I could give my money to and who would purchase it on my behalf! haha. Some guy couldn't believe that it was an 18 'its only wrestling' so didn't see the harm in buying it for me, I was over the moon. |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Nov 23, 2020 9:56:46 GMT -5
The E19 HBK is indeed based specifically on Badd Blood (and the hair is the same). Thanks man, im not great with adding pictures on here - this makes me happy, mine is still MOC and in my head Shawn had a thin ponytail at the back in this match, I've never seen the back of the figure! Glad it is from this match though - makes it even more weird that we've not had the Taker from it, as the Shawn was released so long ago! Oh perhaps he did...Looks the same from the front though. |
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Post by shanieomaniac on Nov 24, 2020 7:50:29 GMT -5
The 98 Taker that is so often asked for would be pretty much the same as the Badd Blood attire. Earl Hebner from Mattel will never happen, but it's at least possible in the AEW line. I believe he's still signed there, even though he hasn't worked a match in over a year. I think Bearer is a longshot unfortunately. That match has some major nostalgia for me as well. It was one of the few PPV's I saw live as a kid, and remember being totally shocked and amazed by Kane's debut. I remember wanting to buy the VHS from a Virgin Mega Store (dont know if these used to be a thing in the US? but they were in the UK) but I was 12 and when I found it in store it had an 18 certificate so I couldn't buy it, I was gutted. So I spent about an hour plucking up the courage to find a random adult that I thought looked trustworthy and sympathetic who I could give my money to and who would purchase it on my behalf! haha. Some guy couldn't believe that it was an 18 'its only wrestling' so didn't see the harm in buying it for me, I was over the moon. There was a Virgin Mega Store right in Times Square in the late 90s... same time that WWF NY was there. I took a trip to NYC and visited both. |
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Post by Rattlehead on Nov 24, 2020 9:00:47 GMT -5
The E19 HBK is indeed based specifically on Badd Blood (and the hair is the same). No the hair wasn't done on E19. He had the little pony tail in the match. I assume the head sculpt is based off of the DX IYH poster. I used to watch this match on repeat as a kid, one of my favorite matches of all time. So I do hope to see taker and bearer from this match eventually. |
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 24, 2020 10:05:32 GMT -5
The E19 HBK is indeed based specifically on Badd Blood (and the hair is the same). No the hair wasn't done on E19. He had the little pony tail in the match. I assume the head sculpt is based off of the DX IYH poster. I used to watch this match on repeat as a kid, one of my favorite matches of all time. So I do hope to see taker and bearer from this match eventually. I thought so, too lazy too look it up I was just going by memory on the hair....I feel like the hair he had at bad blood was a mixture of E19 and the Wrestlemania 30 elite from his Wrestlemania 14 look. Not ideal but think we'll have to forgive and forget as its been re-released twice already, very much doubt we would get another with an altered head. Fingers crossed we could get the Bearer and the Undertaker (and an improved debut Kane). |
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Post by DudeAbides on Nov 24, 2020 10:39:47 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 14 should be Undertaker's UE with entrance coat, but I really hope they do the updated debut Kane as an UE as well. Also, since theres really no accessories or even alt heads that Kane could come with that I can think of (besides the voice box E12 came with, the cell door you suggsted, or maybe a slicked back hair head? idk) I think it would be really cool if he came with 4 fire pyro pieces that could attach to ring posts.
Another one, it would still be a repeat UE, but I want a Bret Hart from Wrestlemania 13, and since the Austin UE is already coming, Bret should come with a bloody screaming Austin head as a 3rd head.
And then my dream would be a UE Gangrel to complete the Brood, smiling and screaming heads, removable arms to swap a clean/bloody shirt piece, sunglasses, and goblet.
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Post by WalterF on Nov 24, 2020 18:01:19 GMT -5
A good 97 Elite Taker has been a main want for awhile. I’d love an ultimate based on when he was burned by Mankind. Could have a normal sculpt, one w the eye patch and one with the burn shown.
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Post by cldbld on Nov 24, 2020 18:50:09 GMT -5
Right? Would've been a cool epic moments set right?
Right?
No?
Because they gave us all garbage epic moments. (Well except hardys)
Mattels motto, is never releasing what people actually want.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 24, 2020 18:58:25 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 14 should be Undertaker's UE with entrance coat, but I really hope they do the updated debut Kane as an UE as well. Also, since theres really no accessories or even alt heads that Kane could come with that I can think of (besides the voice box E12 came with, the cell door you suggsted, or maybe a slicked back hair head? idk) I think it would be really cool if he came with 4 fire pyro pieces that could attach to ring posts. Another one, it would still be a repeat UE, but I want a Bret Hart from Wrestlemania 13, and since the Austin UE is already coming, Bret should come with a bloody screaming Austin head as a 3rd head. And then my dream would be a UE Gangrel to complete the Brood, smiling and screaming heads, removable arms to swap a clean/bloody shirt piece, sunglasses, and goblet. I’ve said in another thread that I see no reason why WM 14 Taker couldn’t be a regular elite. The coat shouldn’t be out of an elite budget...I think the best Undertaker use of the UE three heads would be around Mania 9...but I’m not precious about it, I want a WM14 Taker too, however it comes. The Bad Blood HIAC Taker could easily be a regular elite too, no need for it to be UE, as long as we get it, I’d be happy, We got the basic WM13 Bret, I wouldn’t be desperate for an elite as it’s quite similar to a lot of other Brets....the Bret they HAVE to make before they potentially lose his rights is the Montreal Screw job Bret to go with UE Shawn. It would probably sit best as a UE as it means we can get another release of the Hart Foundation jacket without people who have the Defining Moments moaning about it as the attire is very slightly different. |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Nov 24, 2020 19:38:43 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 14 should be Undertaker's UE with entrance coat, but I really hope they do the updated debut Kane as an UE as well. Also, since theres really no accessories or even alt heads that Kane could come with that I can think of (besides the voice box E12 came with, the cell door you suggsted, or maybe a slicked back hair head? idk) I think it would be really cool if he came with 4 fire pyro pieces that could attach to ring posts. Another one, it would still be a repeat UE, but I want a Bret Hart from Wrestlemania 13, and since the Austin UE is already coming, Bret should come with a bloody screaming Austin head as a 3rd head. And then my dream would be a UE Gangrel to complete the Brood, smiling and screaming heads, removable arms to swap a clean/bloody shirt piece, sunglasses, and goblet. They could give Kane the cape that he wore early on at a few house shows and photoshoots. Unfortunately they can't do blood, so those others won't happen. |
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Post by DudeAbides on Nov 25, 2020 17:09:40 GMT -5
I’ve said in another thread that I see no reason why WM 14 Taker couldn’t be a regular elite. The coat shouldn’t be out of an elite budget...I think the best Undertaker use of the UE three heads would be around Mania 9...but I’m not precious about it, I want a WM14 Taker too, however it comes. The Bad Blood HIAC Taker could easily be a regular elite too, no need for it to be UE, as long as we get it, I’d be happy, We got the basic WM13 Bret, I wouldn’t be desperate for an elite as it’s quite similar to a lot of other Brets....the Bret they HAVE to make before they potentially lose his rights is the Montreal Screw job Bret to go with UE Shawn. It would probably sit best as a UE as it means we can get another release of the Hart Foundation jacket without people who have the Defining Moments moaning about it as the attire is very slightly different. It could be, but more detail would be taken to in the UE, as well as the articulation. 98 is sorely missing and the UE would be the best spot for it. Grey glove taker has been done to death, esp since they just made another. We got the basic WM13 Bret but basics are terrible, he cant even do his finisher. If you wanna talk similar DM Bret is essentially screwjob attire with the slightest of differences. At least WM13 has a pink top and black tights to vary it. They could give Kane the cape that he wore early on at a few house shows and photoshoots. Unfortunately they can't do blood, so those others won't happen. I thought about that but honestly who would display him with that? If something like that that never made it to tv got included then there's no reason the brahma bull title didn't come with Rock. I think the pyro attachments would be a sick inclusion. True, thats sad. Ok remove the blood then, i can add it myself. Still want them lol |
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 25, 2020 18:40:16 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 14 should be Undertaker's UE with entrance coat, but I really hope they do the updated debut Kane as an UE as well. Also, since theres really no accessories or even alt heads that Kane could come with that I can think of (besides the voice box E12 came with, the cell door you suggsted, or maybe a slicked back hair head? idk) I think it would be really cool if he came with 4 fire pyro pieces that could attach to ring posts. Another one, it would still be a repeat UE, but I want a Bret Hart from Wrestlemania 13, and since the Austin UE is already coming, Bret should come with a bloody screaming Austin head as a 3rd head. And then my dream would be a UE Gangrel to complete the Brood, smiling and screaming heads, removable arms to swap a clean/bloody shirt piece, sunglasses, and goblet. They could give Kane the cape that he wore early on at a few house shows and photoshoots. Unfortunately they can't do blood, so those others won't happen. I asked in the Q&A thread if we could get the title belt display cabinet as an accessory with a UE Debut Kane (from RAW when Vince presents him with the title after he beat Austin for the title the night before in a first blood match) would be such a cool display to put the title in it. Steve said it’s possible so fingers crossed!! |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Nov 25, 2020 19:06:32 GMT -5
They could give Kane the cape that he wore early on at a few house shows and photoshoots. Unfortunately they can't do blood, so those others won't happen. I asked in the Q&A thread if we could get the title belt display cabinet as an accessory with a UE Debut Kane (from RAW when Vince presents him with the title after he beat Austin for the title the night before in a first blood match) would be such a cool display to put the title in it. Steve said it’s possible so fingers crossed!! Wasn't he wearing that double sleeves at that point though? |
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 25, 2020 19:15:33 GMT -5
I asked in the Q&A thread if we could get the title belt display cabinet as an accessory with a UE Debut Kane (from RAW when Vince presents him with the title after he beat Austin for the title the night before in a first blood match) would be such a cool display to put the title in it. Steve said it’s possible so fingers crossed!! Wasn't he wearing that double sleeves at that point though? He was and I definitely want a UE one sleeve debut...but he could have a swappable arm to cover both, or they could still just put it in with the debut one anyway as the UE budget will allow it and it we can display it with the double sleeve Kane’s we already have (either basic or Undertaker/Kane RSC). Think it would be a really cool accessory and a cool attitude era moment. |
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Post by DudeAbides on Nov 25, 2020 20:26:11 GMT -5
They could give Kane the cape that he wore early on at a few house shows and photoshoots. Unfortunately they can't do blood, so those others won't happen. I asked in the Q&A thread if we could get the title belt display cabinet as an accessory with a UE Debut Kane (from RAW when Vince presents him with the title after he beat Austin for the title the night before in a first blood match) would be such a cool display to put the title in it. Steve said it’s possible so fingers crossed!! I would love that display piece as an accessory. But if we get that I'm gonna need the next wreckin' vehicle to be a zamboni! |
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Nov 26, 2020 5:07:05 GMT -5
I asked in the Q&A thread if we could get the title belt display cabinet as an accessory with a UE Debut Kane (from RAW when Vince presents him with the title after he beat Austin for the title the night before in a first blood match) would be such a cool display to put the title in it. Steve said it’s possible so fingers crossed!! I would love that display piece as an accessory. But if we get that I'm gonna need the next wreckin' vehicle to be a zamboni! Haha! That would be awesome, a good reason to get another Austin in the line which is different enough too! I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibilities ...vehicles apparently have sold well, I think plenty of people would take one of these!! |
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