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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Dec 7, 2020 17:04:06 GMT -5
I never understood this obsession behind Sting vs Undertaker lol Because they both wore black singlet/tights and had long black hair? It's because they were each the heart and soul of their respective companies. Everyone else came and went, played politics, was greedy, demanded pushes, complained,....but sting and Undertaker were loyal team players - almost to a fault. Undertaker and Sting both should have had more titles and longer runs, but they always put others over and did what they were told. They are what Tommy Dreamer was to ECW. The most respected and loyal men of their era. The heart and soul and conscience of their locker rooms. Yes, their characters were rooted in the super natural, but it was so much more than that. It wasn't what they looked like or how they worked that made people want this dream match.....it's what they stood for. |
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Post by tylerbreezee on Dec 7, 2020 17:46:12 GMT -5
I never understood this obsession behind Sting vs Undertaker lol Because they both wore black singlet/tights and had long black hair? It's because they were each the heart and soul of their respective companies. Everyone else came and went, played politics, was greedy, demanded pushes, complained,....but sting and Undertaker were loyal team players - almost to a fault. Undertaker and Sting both should have had more titles and longer runs, but they always put others over and did what they were told. They are what Tommy Dreamer was to ECW. The most respected and loyal men of their era. The heart and soul and conscience of their locker rooms. Yes, their characters were rooted in the super natural, but it was so much more than that. It wasn't what they looked like or how they worked that made people want this dream match.....it's what they stood for. Makes sense when you put it like that |
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Post by Next Manufacturedâs Sweater on Dec 8, 2020 8:45:38 GMT -5
I never understood this obsession behind Sting vs Undertaker lol Because they both wore black singlet/tights and had long black hair? Pretty much, yeah. They were the goth gimmicks from the Monday Night Wars, although nobody cared about this âdream matchâ until around the time The Rock returned to WWE in 2011. Best Old Man Goth Match would not have lived up to anybodyâs expectations though. In response to OP, Sting turning up in legends skits playing poker with Ted DiBiase and the APA every time thereâs an old school Raw wouldnât really fit his character. Also, heâs not a mark, so heâd be wanting decent money for an appearance, and heâs too old and broken down to be in a big money role. Heâs a weak promo and canât take bumps. I do feel like they should have had him turn up with a baseball bat and take out some bad guys at Raw 25 though. |
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Post by Dan on Dec 8, 2020 11:24:41 GMT -5
I still feel like those Wrestlemania 27 promos were meant for Sting, but something didn't pan out and they gave them to Undertaker naturally instead. With hindsight, they probably should have just gone straight for the big one, Undertaker v Sting at Wrestlemania 31, rather than going with Triple H first and probably planning for Undertaker the following year. I think the mystique between the two characters drew parallels, but on paper billing Sting as a vigilante when he first entered, did naturally draw more ties to help fight against the Authority and Triple H. They definitely should have at least given Undertaker and Sting a Wrestlemania moment, even if it wasn't a Match as such, but just the two of them in their gear, staring each other down, ala Hogan and Rock at 18, and this could easily have happened at Wrestlemania 32.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Dec 8, 2020 18:22:32 GMT -5
I still feel like those Wrestlemania 27 promos were meant for Sting, but something didn't pan out and they gave them to Undertaker naturally instead. With hindsight, they probably should have just gone straight for the big one, Undertaker v Sting at Wrestlemania 31, rather than going with Triple H first and probably planning for Undertaker the following year. I think the mystique between the two characters drew parallels, but on paper billing Sting as a vigilante when he first entered, did naturally draw more ties to help fight against the Authority and Triple H. They definitely should have at least given Undertaker and Sting a Wrestlemania moment, even if it wasn't a Match as such, but just the two of them in their gear, staring each other down, ala Hogan and Rock at 18, and this could easily have happened at Wrestlemania 32. From what I remember Triple H was suppose to resume his feud with Sheamus which was a main reason why he was given the King gimmick as it would be The King of The Ring vs the King of Kings. Obviously Hunter being penciled into an unexpected match with Taker was a last minute decision and Sheamus's King gimmick was scrapped around the same time. At the time the rumours were the highest they had ever been about Sting joining. |
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Post by Kill Em' All on Dec 8, 2020 23:54:18 GMT -5
I just don't understand. How did WWE misuse him. Like he's not a hard character to book?
Him being the vigintile fighting the Authority; and you can add in WCW Vs. WWE feud. All he had to do was go over against HHH. HHH could of been done the job at WM 31.
You can still have Sting do the job; for Rollins. If rollins didn't hurt him. You can throw him some win before WM 36; and give us Taker/Sting at 36. And end the story of Sting in WWE if you wanted.
Part of me just wishes they set up Taker/Sting at WM 31. And did HHH program in the Summer of 15 or something.
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Post by Decky on Dec 9, 2020 3:47:52 GMT -5
Blame Sting for his pig-headedness in not wanting to sign after the buyout, and then wasting his time working for Dixie/Jeff all those years. When he finally got over himself, swallowed his pride and eventually set foot in a WWE ring, he was basically finished. Not much you can really do with a broken down, near 60 year-old, who ultimately ended up damn near paralysing himself... although he's probably completely healed now, and able to put on 5 star classics, now he's in the land of milk and honey, where everything is perfect  Part of me is a little disappointed (although nowhere as near as when Jericho did), that he's signed on with that lot... but considering he spent so long in a glorified indy promotion - just so he wouldn't have to work for Vince, I shouldn't be surprised he's chosen to go small-time again. At least now, with their acquisition of Sting, AEW's transformation to WCW 2.0 is complete. I'll never forgive WWE for how they used Sting and i'm shocked he allowed it. His match against Triple H was solid but he should have won. Losing to Rollins straight after Rollins lost to Cena made him look even weaker. They should have had Taker Vs Sting when they had the chance - I don't care if Vince was against the idea, somebody should have somehow made it happen. Even though, it was apparently 'Taker himself who was against the idea? âWWE had no interest in him as a television character,â Meltzer wrote. âKhan wants to make him a regular television character, although he very clearly has to be protected when it comes to not taking bumps. Still, it is known Sting wanted to do a Cinematic match with Undertaker, and for whatever reason, while fans have clamored for Undertaker vs. Sting for years, it has never been a match that appealed to McMahon.â |
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Dec 9, 2020 5:23:35 GMT -5
Iâll just go on to say itâs one of those dumb things that WWE does. I barely watch their product anymore. I think this could of been one of the most anticipated and drawing matches of all time. Youâd draw old fans and new fans altogether. Just the merchandise, theatrics etc would be worth it. Sure, would the match suck? More than likely, but WWE had the perfect opportunity to do it. Youâre telling me the fans have been clamoring for this match for years and after you sign the biggest star not to sign with the E that it couldnât happen? It just sounds like a load of bs. Sting was willing to lose. I could see why he didnât resign with them. There was no reason for him to lose to hunter at WrestleMania and then it sucked to see him lose to Rollins (and I yes, I get that it was unplanned for things to go down the way it did). Although, years too late, this would of been the perfect opportunity for them to do a cinematic match between the two. Neither men would get hurt because itâs pure acting. I hope AEW uses Sting to their fullest, but I also hope heâs safe and doesnât take any bumps. Sting is my favorite wrestler of all time. Itâs sad to also see that Mattel didnât capitalize and also give us the Stings we wanted.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 12:26:39 GMT -5
I kind of wish Sting never went to WWE at all. Particularly after how they used him. As said, that awful loss at mania was ridiculous.
But I'm happy he's getting to extend his career in AEW. I think Jim Ross said, just seeing Sting made him feel young -- and simply that is a good thing these days, haha.
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Post by Road Warrior Shark on Dec 9, 2020 12:38:16 GMT -5
I know I'm the outlier, but I never really wanted to see Sting/Taker. it would have been cool to find a way to see them team up once.. maybe to take out J&J security (or someone similar from that era) to pop a crowd/rating and let people go home happy.
And I loved the HHH match. The finish was irrelevant to me. The thing was a big bag of nostalgic fun. Sting was never going to be figured in as a long term guy, so why not have a good time with him.
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Dec 9, 2020 13:32:50 GMT -5
A match with Cena has been more appealing to me than with Taker. Don't know how that'd be set up but in-ring, always thought that would bring a better match. Big long-term fantasy/fig fed booking wish.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 16:13:44 GMT -5
I donât have much to add here other than padding the opinion that his Mania match was just awful. I canât believe he agreed to that.
Iâm split about whether I wanted him to come to WWE at all. On the one hand, it was so exciting (at first) and we got figures out of it... but man was it sad to see his worst fears (how he would be used) completely confirmed.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Dec 9, 2020 16:17:30 GMT -5
I've always been more interested in Sting Vs Kane than him and Taker.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Dec 9, 2020 21:09:12 GMT -5
Sting/Taker was a thing way before 2011. More like 96-97 onward. Anyone saying otherwise is lost.
You think people were talking Austin/Goldberg, Austin/Hogan, Rock/Hogan, Rock/DDP back in the day and werenât wanting Taker/Sting?
Gtfo
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Post by K5 on Dec 10, 2020 0:39:39 GMT -5
Sting/Taker was a thing way before 2011. More like 96-97 onward. Anyone saying otherwise is lost. You think people were talking Austin/Goldberg, Austin/Hogan, Rock/Hogan, Rock/DDP back in the day and werenât wanting Taker/Sting? Gtfo I can't find it, but I know PWI booked a wcw vs wwf card in one of their mags back in like 99 and sting/taker was a for sure there. I wasn't crazy for the match but understand why some were. I always wanted HBK/Sting and was hoping for Michaels to return for that but it wasn't to be the case. |
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 10, 2020 11:16:35 GMT -5
Sting/Taker was a thing way before 2011. More like 96-97 onward. Anyone saying otherwise is lost. You think people were talking Austin/Goldberg, Austin/Hogan, Rock/Hogan, Rock/DDP back in the day and werenât wanting Taker/Sting? Gtfo They were for sure man 100%. Back when Sting was feuding with Vampiro in WCW 2000 & the Ministry had been in the WWF the year before? People were talking about it all the time then and the similarities on display. Also when Sting was feuding with Abyss in TNA people were talking it up. So yeah the 2011 comment isn't remotely accurate. For me? I was never pushed on it as a match. I didn't feel it would be much use outside the obvious spectacle. Stings debut in WWE in 2014 was maybe my last genuine mark out moment & I hated the WM match too. |
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Dec 11, 2020 11:34:20 GMT -5
Seeing how he is on the mic. He def could have been a manager for good wrestlers.
WWE treats legends like old people and AEW is showing the right way of using them. Instead of using them for just appearances or backstage work.
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Post by wheeljack83 on Dec 16, 2020 1:09:26 GMT -5
Seeing how he is on the mic. He def could have been a manager for good wrestlers. WWE treats legends like old people and AEW is showing the right way of using them. Instead of using them for just appearances or backstage work. It remains to be seen. |
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Post by Hurricane on Dec 17, 2020 16:42:36 GMT -5
The people complaining about Sting putting over older guys like HHH are the same people complaining he never faced The Undertaker. đ
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Post by CM Tusk on Dec 18, 2020 17:39:16 GMT -5
Sting vs Triple H was my dream match since 2003. It would have been good in 2003. Sting vs anyone in 2015 would have been bad. He used up his last good years in TNA, and then continued to wrestle there for another five years after that.
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