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Post by JC Motors on Jan 9, 2021 17:37:38 GMT -5
I really have no interest in AEW Figures but I'm fascinated by the distribution problems
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 18:01:42 GMT -5
How about that distribution of jazwears halo line? Every Wal-Mart around me (about 8) is stockkkked with those and not selling but aew only 1 case and gone that day Halo should have been stocked heavily...a major Halo game was supposed to be released around Christmastime, but it got delayed a year. It seems like they planned accordingly, for what they could. In my area, you can't find a Master Chief, but I've seen everyone else at least once.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Jan 9, 2021 18:37:38 GMT -5
How about that distribution of jazwears halo line? Every Wal-Mart around me (about 8) is stockkkked with those and not selling but aew only 1 case and gone that day Halo should have been stocked heavily...a major Halo game was supposed to be released around Christmastime, but it got delayed a year. It seems like they planned accordingly, for what they could. In my area, you can't find a Master Chief, but I've seen everyone else at least once. If you want a Master Chief I have enough on my shelves to give one to everyone on the board lmao
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Post by Row on Jan 9, 2021 20:34:27 GMT -5
Feel blessed to have stumbled upon a Moxley and Hangman today at Walmart, was literally the first time I have seen a single AEW figure in the wild
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Post by MrOrange100 on Jan 10, 2021 7:10:03 GMT -5
What a lot of the “just buy it at Ringside” people don’t seem to get is that for more casual fans it’s far from an ideal solution to have to buy multiple figures at inflated prices all at once, months in advance. Some of us would like to pick and choose and get our feet wet before diving deep into the line financially. I would like to be able to at least start a collection with some figures at retail.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 8:57:26 GMT -5
What a lot of the “just buy it at Ringside” people don’t seem to get is that for more casual fans it’s far from an ideal solution to have to buy multiple figures at inflated prices all at once, months in advance. Some of us would like to pick and choose and get our feet wet before diving deep into the line financially. I would like to be able to at least start a collection with some figures at retail. No we get it, I'd also like to just spend $20 per figure but you have to be realistic. Until these figures get more production you either have to get extremely luck or just bite the bullet and pay Ringside. End of story.
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Post by stc13 on Jan 10, 2021 9:07:06 GMT -5
What a lot of the “just buy it at Ringside” people don’t seem to get is that for more casual fans it’s far from an ideal solution to have to buy multiple figures at inflated prices all at once, months in advance. Some of us would like to pick and choose and get our feet wet before diving deep into the line financially. I would like to be able to at least start a collection with some figures at retail. No we get it, I'd also like to just spend $20 per figure but you have to be realistic. Until these figures get more production you either have to get extremely luck or just bite the bullet and pay Ringside. End of story. It’s not just limited to the AEW line. Supply and demand are way out of whack for figures these days. It’s been equally impossible to find Star Wars Black, Gi Joe, or MMPR figures in my area. They’re sold out online through major retailers. So either I buy through specialty retailers, where most are on back order, and pay a slight premium, or don’t own the figure. That’s just where the hobby is right now. And compared to other online specialty retailers, RSC’s $50 free shipping threshold is about half of most places. I’d love to walk into stores and have even an outside chance of finding figures I want. But that just isn’t reality right now across the board.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 9:50:18 GMT -5
No we get it, I'd also like to just spend $20 per figure but you have to be realistic. Until these figures get more production you either have to get extremely luck or just bite the bullet and pay Ringside. End of story. It’s not just limited to the AEW line. Supply and demand are way out of whack for figures these days. It’s been equally impossible to find Star Wars Black, Gi Joe, or MMPR figures in my area. They’re sold out online through major retailers. So either I buy through specialty retailers, where most are on back order, and pay a slight premium, or don’t own the figure. That’s just where the hobby is right now. And compared to other online specialty retailers, RSC’s $50 free shipping threshold is about half of most places. I’d love to walk into stores and have even an outside chance of finding figures I want. But that just isn’t reality right now across the board. I've been very fortunate to be able to find most MMPR I needed so I feel for you there. If not for my ability to find MMPR I might have just stopped collecting. RSC's $50 is the only reason I use them right now. I know lots of people can't afford to cross that $50 line but it's absolutely crucial to my ability to collect. Having to pay $8-12 per figure to ship on the 'Bay really turns me away.
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 10, 2021 11:11:35 GMT -5
Blame Amazon. The days of brick and mortar are over.
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Post by mrmonkeyofficial on Jan 10, 2021 12:48:07 GMT -5
There's a better chance of actually finding Real AEW wrestlers at Walmart than finding the AEW figures
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Post by shanieomaniac on Jan 11, 2021 5:55:39 GMT -5
I think having two wrestling lines at the same time has shown that the issue is less the toy companies and more Walmart and Target. I have gone to so many stores that say they have stock of AEW but there isn’t anything on the shelf. And I’ve been there while workers are stocking toys and there is stuff in the system but they didn’t put out any AEW/it wasn’t on their pallet or cart. The simple fact is that with Toys R Us gone, American retailers don’t care enough to stock toys. I’ve been to one store almost every day this week and they have not put out the case in their system the entire time. Why? Hell if I know. As a former teacher, you know what my running theory is? Kids these days don't give a hoot about things if it doesn't involve a battery and a screen.
Of all the times I've been to the toy section at walmart, I very rarely see kids there above the age of, say, 6.
I think the last time I saw a child getting a toy at walmart was a girl of about 8 whose mother basically forced her to "choose" a baby yoda doll rather than the barbie she wanted. Obviously, the Grogu figure was for the parent, she told her child that she could either have "Baby Yoda, or no toy at all." That downright sickened me, but isn't the point here.
Kids these days would just rather have an XBOX or a PS5, or a tablet or cell phone. If it isn't those? It's a motorized scooter so they can zip their way around the neighborhood. Plastic figures and board games? Those are for adults now.
So why the heck would walmart and target even bother with toys for anyone above the age of 6?
Every time I visit Walmart's figure aisle, there's two types of "Sections"
1. Peg Swamp 2. Peg Abyss.
It's either an entire section of unloved MOTU, Fortnite, Video Game tie-in lines, or Ghostbusters, or it's an absolute black hole of nothing where the wrestling figures, Marvel Legends, and Star Wars figures should be. And the fact that NONE of the other toys in those lines, like the oversized figures, the kid's belts, and costume accessories ever sell themselves gives me a big hint on exactly who is buying all the figures. HINT: IT ISN'T THE KIDS.
There really is no in between and it's very very SAD.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Jan 11, 2021 6:06:22 GMT -5
Blame Amazon. The days of brick and mortar are over. I'm not going to get into the absolute horror show that is everything Amazon, but I don't think brick and mortar is fully dead yet.
It's seen a setback due to Rona, but even here with Rona, there's plenty of people every day at Wally World when I go there. Heck, it's one of the reasons I don't go very often. With as bad as the virus is here, I'd rather not be in a store where you can't go 10 steps without having to duck behind a shelf out of someone's way so you can maintain social distance.
Has Amazon and other etailers taken a huge toll on all other retail commerce? Sure. No denying that. Just look at all the retail chains which have gone out of business in the last 10 years or so.
But there's more than enough people still willing to march their butts into a store to get what they want. Even for the past year when everyone should have been staying home, tons and tons of people are at the stores in person.
And I feel it will continue to be that for a long time to come.
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Post by shanedalton on Jan 11, 2021 8:28:18 GMT -5
I think having two wrestling lines at the same time has shown that the issue is less the toy companies and more Walmart and Target. I have gone to so many stores that say they have stock of AEW but there isn’t anything on the shelf. And I’ve been there while workers are stocking toys and there is stuff in the system but they didn’t put out any AEW/it wasn’t on their pallet or cart. The simple fact is that with Toys R Us gone, American retailers don’t care enough to stock toys. I’ve been to one store almost every day this week and they have not put out the case in their system the entire time. Why? Hell if I know. As a former teacher, you know what my running theory is? Kids these days don't give a hoot about things if it doesn't involve a battery and a screen. Of all the times I've been to the toy section at walmart, I very rarely see kids there above the age of, say, 6. I think the last time I saw a child getting a toy at walmart was a girl of about 8 whose mother basically forced her to "choose" a baby yoda doll rather than the barbie she wanted. Obviously, the Grogu figure was for the parent, she told her child that she could either have "Baby Yoda, or no toy at all." That downright sickened me, but isn't the point here. Kids these days would just rather have an XBOX or a PS5, or a tablet or cell phone. If it isn't those? It's a motorized scooter so they can zip their way around the neighborhood. Plastic figures and board games? Those are for adults now. So why the heck would walmart and target even bother with toys for anyone above the age of 6? Every time I visit Walmart's figure aisle, there's two types of "Sections"
1. Peg Swamp 2. Peg Abyss. It's either an entire section of unloved MOTU, Fortnite, Video Game tie-in lines, or Ghostbusters, or it's an absolute black hole of nothing where the wrestling figures, Marvel Legends, and Star Wars figures should be. And the fact that NONE of the other toys in those lines, like the oversized figures, the kid's belts, and costume accessories ever sell themselves gives me a big hint on exactly who is buying all the figures. HINT: IT ISN'T THE KIDS.
There really is no in between and it's very very SAD.
Absolutely. I buy my 9 year old toys all the time, but honestly, the last few just sit there in the packages until he takes time away from Fortnite to get to them. I keep hearing that adults are a minority in action figure buying from industry insiders, but I'm just not seeing it. When I see people in the toy aisles looking at Legends, Star Wars, AEW, etc...it's always adults.
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Post by usedtopostin2000 on Jan 11, 2021 8:47:31 GMT -5
Buying the whole set off of RSC isn’t a bad deal at all, even with the markup and shipping. Look at it this way, each fig is $20 retail, add tax. Then the gas and time you’ll spend trying to track all 6 down. MOC collector? Then add even more for gas and time for trying to find all 6 in good condition. Fig hunting will never be what it was in the 90s and 2000s. No more actual toy stores with a large real estate dedicated to lines of figs. We now have small planogrammed areas in stores that rather care about stocking shampoo and dog food than wrestling toys.
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Post by stc13 on Jan 11, 2021 9:20:43 GMT -5
As a former teacher, you know what my running theory is? Kids these days don't give a hoot about things if it doesn't involve a battery and a screen. Of all the times I've been to the toy section at walmart, I very rarely see kids there above the age of, say, 6. I think the last time I saw a child getting a toy at walmart was a girl of about 8 whose mother basically forced her to "choose" a baby yoda doll rather than the barbie she wanted. Obviously, the Grogu figure was for the parent, she told her child that she could either have "Baby Yoda, or no toy at all." That downright sickened me, but isn't the point here. Kids these days would just rather have an XBOX or a PS5, or a tablet or cell phone. If it isn't those? It's a motorized scooter so they can zip their way around the neighborhood. Plastic figures and board games? Those are for adults now. So why the heck would walmart and target even bother with toys for anyone above the age of 6? Every time I visit Walmart's figure aisle, there's two types of "Sections"
1. Peg Swamp 2. Peg Abyss. It's either an entire section of unloved MOTU, Fortnite, Video Game tie-in lines, or Ghostbusters, or it's an absolute black hole of nothing where the wrestling figures, Marvel Legends, and Star Wars figures should be. And the fact that NONE of the other toys in those lines, like the oversized figures, the kid's belts, and costume accessories ever sell themselves gives me a big hint on exactly who is buying all the figures. HINT: IT ISN'T THE KIDS.
There really is no in between and it's very very SAD.
Absolutely. I buy my 9 year old toys all the time, but honestly, the last few just sit there in the packages until he takes time away from Fortnite to get to them. I keep hearing that adults are a minority in action figure buying from industry insiders, but I'm just not seeing it. When I see people in the toy aisles looking at Legends, Star Wars, AEW, etc...it's always adults. It's a rationalization that Mattel has used, and some here love to parrot. Jeremy said in an interview that industry data shows that 40% of action figure sales go to customers over the age of 13, with more collector-oriented lines obviously skewing higher than that. Some lines, like Fortnite, probably have higher percentages going to kids. NECA products are probably almost exclusively adult. Wrestling probably falls somewhere in the middle. As a whole line, WWE probably is somewhere in that 40-50% range, when you factor in basics, playsets, etc that skew younger. But the Elite line? I wouldn't be surprised if it's something like 50-60% non-child purchases. The AEW line is probably about the same - probably higher right now because we're scooping the things up the second they hit the floor. But the point is that it's very much a split market. With the current economics, most lines need to capture both of those markets or they're not going to be successful.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Jan 11, 2021 9:32:10 GMT -5
Absolutely. I buy my 9 year old toys all the time, but honestly, the last few just sit there in the packages until he takes time away from Fortnite to get to them. I keep hearing that adults are a minority in action figure buying from industry insiders, but I'm just not seeing it. When I see people in the toy aisles looking at Legends, Star Wars, AEW, etc...it's always adults. It's a rationalization that Mattel has used, and some here love to parrot. Jeremy said in an interview that industry data shows that 40% of action figure sales go to customers over the age of 13, with more collector-oriented lines obviously skewing higher than that. Some lines, like Fortnite, probably have higher percentages going to kids. NECA products are probably almost exclusively adult. Wrestling probably falls somewhere in the middle. As a whole line, WWE probably is somewhere in that 40-50% range, when you factor in basics, playsets, etc that skew younger. But the Elite line? I wouldn't be surprised if it's something like 50-60% non-child purchases. The AEW line is probably about the same - probably higher right now because we're scooping the things up the second they hit the floor. But the point is that it's very much a split market. With the current economics, most lines need to capture both of those markets or they're not going to be successful. In all honesty, considering the product involved... I really hope there aren't children buying the AEW figures. I would never let my hypothetical children watch it anyway.
Too much cussing and honestly the level of violence in some of the PPVs is gruesome to me as an adult. AEW really seems to be aiming for Old School ECW levels of ish and, yeah, I wouldn't want a child seeing that.
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Post by LaParka on Jan 11, 2021 9:37:24 GMT -5
The distribution/ production of the line has been handled terribly by Wicked Cool/Jazwares. It seems as if it's any of their other lines Fortnite, Halo they get them into the store. Realistically it's creating a hype for a line in the beginning, but usually most companies always slightly over produce the first few waves to gauge input. Remember back when Marvel Legends started they were everywhere in abundance, then Toad was a huge shelf-warmer, then the later waves were adjusted accordingly to the an almost perfect formula for complete sell thrus. Back in the day the wrestling figure aisle was oversaturated ECW, Jakks WWE, and WCW ToyBiz with multiple sets on the shelves. Ringside and Wal-Mart are the only 2 places that carried the first 2 waves, and there were already issues, for the past month and a half collectors are still waiting for August pre-orders, because Wicked Cool started staggering shipments. For a guy that cares about collector's, Jeremy is also catering to thesecondary market by creating a hyped demand. At the end of the day young kids might want to get an AEW figures but there are none available usually just the belts and rings.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Jan 11, 2021 9:50:15 GMT -5
Absolutely. I buy my 9 year old toys all the time, but honestly, the last few just sit there in the packages until he takes time away from Fortnite to get to them. I keep hearing that adults are a minority in action figure buying from industry insiders, but I'm just not seeing it. When I see people in the toy aisles looking at Legends, Star Wars, AEW, etc...it's always adults. It's a rationalization that Mattel has used, and some here love to parrot. Jeremy said in an interview that industry data shows that 40% of action figure sales go to customers over the age of 13, with more collector-oriented lines obviously skewing higher than that. Some lines, like Fortnite, probably have higher percentages going to kids. NECA products are probably almost exclusively adult. Wrestling probably falls somewhere in the middle. As a whole line, WWE probably is somewhere in that 40-50% range, when you factor in basics, playsets, etc that skew younger. But the Elite line? I wouldn't be surprised if it's something like 50-60% non-child purchases. The AEW line is probably about the same - probably higher right now because we're scooping the things up the second they hit the floor. But the point is that it's very much a split market. With the current economics, most lines need to capture both of those markets or they're not going to be successful. The data we’ve heard was said by Bill nearly ten years ago at this point. In 2010, there probably was only 5-10% of sales coming from collectors. Then Vince booked WWE into oblivion to where it’s less popular than ever and the mass integration of screens into our lives rapidly increased a few years after
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Post by smithsjackpott on Jan 17, 2021 10:49:59 GMT -5
Where is everyone seeing the AEW figures? Seems like distribution is only going to east coast stores. I’m in Missouri and haven’t seen any since Series 1 hit and each store got maybe 1 case and most stores got none.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Jan 17, 2021 11:46:24 GMT -5
Where is everyone seeing the AEW figures? Seems like distribution is only going to east coast stores. I’m in Missouri and haven’t seen any since Series 1 hit and each store got maybe 1 case and most stores got none. I'm in Oklahoma and picked up series 3 last week. Never saw series 2 anywhere.
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