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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 17:05:14 GMT -5
A Lombardi retro figure, without the brawler gimmick I'm assuming...yeah, that'll put a lot of butts in seats. Good for people who want it I guess but, c'mon. Even if he cant be called Brooklyn Brawler on the packaging, I dont think there is anything that would prevent the figure from wearing a ripped shirt that says New York on it and jeans. The Bronx Basher!
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 12, 2021 17:14:06 GMT -5
wow..... Brawler.... another job guy getting a figure and Zombie's explanation for not dealing with the UK (or EU for that matter) is based on VAT? why is he assuming his packages would arrive damaged? if he used a reputable courier, he'd be able to reclaim the cost of damaged/lost items with no hassle just shoving a package in the postbox hoping it arrives isn't going to warrant any refund claim, but using a proper courier organisation would do sounds to me like he simply can't be bothered and will happily exclude a large international market oh well, whatever he doesn't deliver, Mattel and Chella clearly will do VAT has got absolutely nothing to do with damaged packages. Are you from the UK?? Since the start of the year the UK has required 20% VAT to be applied at the point of sale to all imports from the US (and others) up to £135 value. US based sellers are required register and pay HMRC the VAT applied to goods sent to the UK. In this instance, Zombie would need to charge UK buyers for the item, the international shipping + add 20% of the total on the top. He would then have to pay the 20% to HMRC in the UK. Any business sellers who are not doing this will likely end up having packages withheld from delivery in the long term (Ringside?). If you're trying to run a proper business then you don't cut corners on stuff like this. Some folks need to realise that the UK's position is totally different than it was. When you can just sell out the same amount of products in the US and other easily accessible countries, you wonder why a business would bother with the hassle of the UK. Honestly, if he set up a shopify or anything similar to that, it would be extremely easy to sort out UK buyers paying extra to cover the VAT.
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Post by guster on Apr 12, 2021 17:36:49 GMT -5
A Lombardi retro figure, without the brawler gimmick I'm assuming...yeah, that'll put a lot of butts in seats. Good for people who want it I guess but, c'mon. Even if he cant be called Brooklyn Brawler on the packaging, I dont think there is anything that would prevent the figure from wearing a ripped shirt that says New York on it and jeans. The teaser video graphic just said "The Brawler". That's probably what they're going with and it's close enough in my book.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Apr 12, 2021 18:51:23 GMT -5
Even if he cant be called Brooklyn Brawler on the packaging, I dont think there is anything that would prevent the figure from wearing a ripped shirt that says New York on it and jeans. The teaser video graphic just said "The Brawler". That's probably what they're going with and it's close enough in my book. Love this! This one is probably in my top 4 I'm most excited for at this point. He'll fit great with the Hasbro era. I'd say top 5 right now for me: 1. Bravo, 2. Cardona, 3. Myers, 4. Brawler, 5. RnR With these and the retros coming back, it finally looks like a dream time for Hasbro collectors.
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Post by WOOOOOO on Apr 12, 2021 20:20:02 GMT -5
The teaser video graphic just said "The Brawler". That's probably what they're going with and it's close enough in my book. Love this! This one is probably in my top 4 I'm most excited for at this point. He'll fit great with the Hasbro era. I'd say top 5 right now for me: 1. Bravo, 2. Cardona, 3. Myers, 4. Brawler, 5. RnR With these and the retros coming back, it finally looks like a dream time for Hasbro collectors. Ok just need to know how are Cardona and Myers higher up than the Brawler and RNR? To each his own not hating at all just trying to see a different perspective.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Apr 12, 2021 20:29:44 GMT -5
Love this! This one is probably in my top 4 I'm most excited for at this point. He'll fit great with the Hasbro era. I'd say top 5 right now for me: 1. Bravo, 2. Cardona, 3. Myers, 4. Brawler, 5. RnR With these and the retros coming back, it finally looks like a dream time for Hasbro collectors. Ok just need to know how are Cardona and Myers higher up than the Brawler and RNR? To each his own not hating at all just trying to see a different perspective. Just a fan of the MWFP and the guys. RnR, I have no huge attachment too, I only really recognize them from the period where they were on WWF shows during the new gen era, so I'm happy to have them for that era.
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Post by loosecannon on Apr 12, 2021 20:56:04 GMT -5
man, I was really hoping to see more higher profile guys get signed, but ever since Bravo, there really hasn't been much that interests me. I'm sure he's working hard to get guys signed, but it just doesn't seem like a lot of talent wants to do this. I'm assuming there's probably 100 guys he has on his list in front of Brawler. Or maybe he really wanted Brawler. who knows
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Post by Di-Di-Dis-Distribution Problem on Apr 12, 2021 23:25:13 GMT -5
This just in: tomorrow he will debut Rudat's sketch of the forthcoming Jose Luis Rivera...
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Post by britishbrickfan on Apr 13, 2021 0:00:15 GMT -5
VAT has got absolutely nothing to do with damaged packages. Are you from the UK?? Since the start of the year the UK has required 20% VAT to be applied at the point of sale to all imports from the US (and others) up to £135 value. US based sellers are required register and pay HMRC the VAT applied to goods sent to the UK. In this instance, Zombie would need to charge UK buyers for the item, the international shipping + add 20% of the total on the top. He would then have to pay the 20% to HMRC in the UK. Any business sellers who are not doing this will likely end up having packages withheld from delivery in the long term (Ringside?). If you're trying to run a proper business then you don't cut corners on stuff like this. Some folks need to realise that the UK's position is totally different than it was. When you can just sell out the same amount of products in the US and other easily accessible countries, you wonder why a business would bother with the hassle of the UK. Honestly, if he set up a shopify or anything similar to that, it would be extremely easy to sort out UK buyers paying extra to cover the VAT. or an Amazon.com store...... then shipping would be handled by Amazon, not ZST
but that's too easy I guess
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Post by mrh on Apr 13, 2021 1:10:32 GMT -5
I think that IF the figure looks like the Brooklyn Brawler's WWF look -- and is a great sculpt -- he will sell well. Otherwise ... welp
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Post by onlymoc21 on Apr 13, 2021 2:15:21 GMT -5
I think that IF the figure looks like the Brooklyn Brawler's WWF look -- and is a great sculpt -- he will sell well. Otherwise ... welp This is an interesting point and something Zombie will need to walk a fine line with, WWE does not play around when it comes to their IP’s and trademarks, even with a small start up company.
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 13, 2021 3:05:52 GMT -5
Honestly, if he set up a shopify or anything similar to that, it would be extremely easy to sort out UK buyers paying extra to cover the VAT. or an Amazon.com store...... then shipping would be handled by Amazon, not ZST
but that's too easy I guess
As far as I'm aware amazon does take a significant percentage. Hell, he could do an ebay store and use their global shipping program, even. Then the buyer assumes all extra shipping and stuff. ebay takes just 10% in fees.
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Post by onlymoc21 on Apr 13, 2021 4:25:29 GMT -5
or an Amazon.com store...... then shipping would be handled by Amazon, not ZST
but that's too easy I guess
As far as I'm aware amazon does take a significant percentage. Hell, he could do an ebay store and use their global shipping program, even. Then the buyer assumes all extra shipping and stuff. ebay takes just 10% in fees. Very well put. So it is evident that he does indeed have a number of options and approaches to meet this demand he is simply choosing not too at this time.
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 13, 2021 5:50:53 GMT -5
As far as I'm aware amazon does take a significant percentage. Hell, he could do an ebay store and use their global shipping program, even. Then the buyer assumes all extra shipping and stuff. ebay takes just 10% in fees. Very well put. So it is evident that he does indeed have a number of options and approaches to meet this demand he is simply choosing not too at this time. If he wants to be successful it should be a no brainer to get himself on ebay anyway. A LOT more people would discover his products through ebay than any social media, podcast or any other marketing.
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Post by master_fuji on Apr 13, 2021 6:32:44 GMT -5
The obsession with how this guy conducts his business is getting really weird. I thought giving a brief explanation of the VAT issue might help understand - clearly not.
If they are available to you when the pre-order comes up - great. If not - move on.
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Post by onlymoc21 on Apr 13, 2021 6:54:58 GMT -5
The obsession with how this guy conducts his business is getting really weird. I thought giving a brief explanation of the VAT issue might help understand - clearly not. If they are available to you when the pre-order comes up - great. If not - move on. Obsession is far fetched dude, although it may not seem it but people are actually trying to help him maximise his product and it turn profits. They want to buy his product, also word of mouth is essential to start up companies and would allow his business to grow rapidly, the more people with access to his product the better. Also if he is able to crack the UK markets giving the current exchange rate he will make double per figure. Way is it wrong for people to offer suggestions, it actually could give him a supply route he may not have thought off.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 13, 2021 19:30:57 GMT -5
The obsession with how this guy conducts his business is getting really weird. I thought giving a brief explanation of the VAT issue might help understand - clearly not. If they are available to you when the pre-order comes up - great. If not - move on. It’s suspicious enough at this point that I wonder if someone with a vendetta against the guy is creating accounts to attack him and ruin the thread about the line. It seems too obsessive to just be a self-entitled fan who thinks they know ZST’s business better than he does. It’s a shame too, because it’s kinda working. I really enjoy the reveals and discussions of the figures in this thread, even if not all the figures are my cup of tea. But I’m always wary of opening this thread, because I know it’s going to be full of outraged posts complaining about something that hasn’t even happened. It sucks.
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Post by mrh on Apr 13, 2021 21:48:53 GMT -5
The obsession with how this guy conducts his business is getting really weird. I thought giving a brief explanation of the VAT issue might help understand - clearly not. If they are available to you when the pre-order comes up - great. If not - move on.
For me, it's not an obsession -- but honestly, it's just really interesting. We're seeing someone created an action figure line literally in front of our noses -- and I think that's just an interesting/exciting thing to follow.
I couldn't care much about the guy, but I AM interested in all that goes into creating a toy line -- which is why I find this so fascinating (more than I ever would have anticipated).
And it's like a car crash -- if it does go, people will stop and look. Might suck for him, but that's just how life is....
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Post by onlymoc21 on Apr 14, 2021 2:25:20 GMT -5
The obsession with how this guy conducts his business is getting really weird. I thought giving a brief explanation of the VAT issue might help understand - clearly not. If they are available to you when the pre-order comes up - great. If not - move on. It’s suspicious enough at this point that I wonder if someone with a vendetta against the guy is creating accounts to attack him and ruin the thread about the line. It seems too obsessive to just be a self-entitled fan who thinks they know ZST’s business better than he does. It’s a shame too, because it’s kinda working. I really enjoy the reveals and discussions of the figures in this thread, even if not all the figures are my cup of tea. But I’m always wary of opening this thread, because I know it’s going to be full of outraged posts complaining about something that hasn’t even happened. It sucks. I would like to think those of us that are interested in retro style figures are adult collectors, thus would not go through the petty lengths of creating multiple accounts or have a vendetta over toys. I have not seen anyone attack Zombie as a person, but as a business man and how he has come across to others. I can only speak to my own posts and if they come across as self entitled then I will apologise for that sincerely not my intention, but I do attempt to base my opinion as an informed one based on information out there. I don’t know his business better than he does and have appreciated his insight he has given to the process of what he is doing. I think it’s important to take on board that this is a forum however and opinions good and bad have merit and the different viewpoints are appreciated. Sorry you feel that way about checking out this thread, would hate for anyone to feel like that and your right in that it’s likely best to wait until all is final and then an opinion should be made once all information is known.
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Post by britishbrickfan on Apr 14, 2021 4:57:35 GMT -5
I'll speak for my own posts on the topic - do I have an issue with Zombie as a person? no, never met him so can't have an opinion either way
do I have an issue with the way Zombie is unwilling to engage with the figure collecting community directly about a new line he is promoting, directly at the community, and yet doesn't want to engage in answering questions from the UK/EU buyers? absolutely, because I have no idea why he's not been willing to confirm, one way or the other, whether he will sell direct to UK/EU customers
Chella has somehow managed to spark the interest in non-Hasbro/Mattel produced Retro figures. They made the Aldis fig, are shipping their next figures in the coming month, and have announced Dynamite/Hayabusa and now Bull Nakano figures, and they went immediately for the global market by partnering with JB Toys (whether you agree with that decision or not is not the point, they made their figs available to the US/Canadian market from day one)
yet now we have ZST pitching that he's releasing the greatest non-manufacturer lineup, which consists of a handful of wrestlers with brand identity, and the rest so far are either indy jobbers or people who fans have no interest in buying
yeah, Brooklyn Brawler was on WWF TV for years, but he's hardly a figure/name that anyone has been clamouring for since the Hasbro line in the 1990s
for me, ZST has made it quite clear he has no interest in non-US sales, and that's a shame because there are avenues he could have taken and has chosen not to, despite using the non-US market to build hype for his lineup that will only be available to a select few or eBay scalpers
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