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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Jan 18, 2021 23:32:10 GMT -5
Think about this, in 1903, in Kitty hawk North Carolina, two guys fly this thing they called a plane a hundred feet.
Now we have Alexa Bliss acting out Ghost Adventures fan fics.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jan 19, 2021 2:14:56 GMT -5
Must have took me less than 40 minutes to watch that whole episode. So much skippable stuff including the entire first hour. I liked Ricochet and AJ
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Post by @brit_figs on Jan 19, 2021 8:55:48 GMT -5
Gillberg was my favourite thing about that episode.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jan 19, 2021 12:16:23 GMT -5
this show has been absolute dog crap besides Orton's promo its been like an HOUR STRAIGHT of womens wrestling, storylines that are not entertaining at all. and we had a pretty terrible singles match between woods/mace. womens wrestling isn’t inherently crap but go off i guess I never get the “too much women’s wrestling” argument. The “I don’t watch wrestling to be titillated” argument. Id rather watch pretty women wrestle and be catty than grown men act like middle school/high school bullies. I’m just a no good hetero cis male though. I’m probably hurting someone’s feelings that loves 3 hours of hairy sweaty men locking up....
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Jan 19, 2021 12:52:04 GMT -5
womens wrestling isn’t inherently crap but go off i guess I never get the “too much women’s wrestling” argument. The “I don’t watch wrestling to be titillated” argument. Id rather watch pretty women wrestle and be catty than grown men act like middle school/high school bullies. I’m just a no good hetero cis male though. I’m probably hurting someone’s feelings that loves 3 hours of hairy sweaty men locking up.... That paragraph had no coherent message. First of all, you misused my titillated line to link it with the "too much women's wrestling" thing. Never had my base instincts kick on during a wrestling program. I just want to see the women have natural storylines with natural emotions, not only thru stereotypical cattyness and behavior. Second, no matter people's criticisms on the quality or frequency of women's action, neither directly attack your masculinity. EDIT: You posted while I edited. We don't seem to be too off-base, I just had to clear something up that I felt was used out of context.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jan 19, 2021 13:14:18 GMT -5
I never get the “too much women’s wrestling” argument. The “I don’t watch wrestling to be titillated” argument. Id rather watch pretty women wrestle and be catty than grown men act like middle school/high school bullies. I’m just a no good hetero cis male though. I’m probably hurting someone’s feelings that loves 3 hours of hairy sweaty men locking up.... That paragraph had no coherent message. The message is people either think your a creep or perv if your prefer women’s wrestling and figures. Some people think more than one or 2 women’s matches is too much and ridiculous. It’s not. It’s preference and I don’t understand why so many people crap on women’s wrestling when I find it more enjoyable. To each their own, but I’m sick of people acting like women’s wrestling isn’t good or shouldn’t be a thing. I get the first guy said it was too much/too long, but that implies that’s a bad thing. Whatever
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 13:35:47 GMT -5
That paragraph had no coherent message. The message is people either think your a creep or perv if your prefer women’s wrestling and figures. Some people think more than one or 2 women’s matches is too much and ridiculous. It’s not. It’s preference and I don’t understand why so many people crap on women’s wrestling when I find it more enjoyable. To each their own, but I’m sick of people acting like women’s wrestling isn’t good or shouldn’t be a thing. I get the first guy said it was too much/too long, but that implies that’s a bad thing. Whatever I love women's wrestling. Likewise I get pretty irritated at the idea that women's wrestling is somehow inferior or not worth watching. I've found the women's storylines in WWE overall significantly better than the men's over the past few years. Love me some stardom, best women's in ring action around.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jan 19, 2021 14:08:31 GMT -5
That paragraph had no coherent message. The message is people either think your a creep or perv if your prefer women’s wrestling and figures. Some people think more than one or 2 women’s matches is too much and ridiculous. It’s not. It’s preference and I don’t understand why so many people crap on women’s wrestling when I find it more enjoyable. To each their own, but I’m sick of people acting like women’s wrestling isn’t good or shouldn’t be a thing. I get the first guy said it was too much/too long, but that implies that’s a bad thing. Whatever Women's wrestling does well with Men 50+. It's proven. For the younger demos more women's wrestling drives viewers away (unless it's really top notch). Not everyone who's into women's wrestling is a pervert. However, everyone who's into Alexa Bliss acting like a sexy child fits that description well. I'm honestly thankful that Stephanie created Women's wrestling in 2015.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jan 19, 2021 14:09:13 GMT -5
Think about this, in 1903, in Kitty hawk North Carolina, two guys fly this thing they called a plane a hundred feet. Now we have Alexa Bliss acting out Ghost Adventures fan fics. Did you say....NORTH CAROLINA?!?!
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Post by k5 on Jan 19, 2021 14:36:04 GMT -5
The message is people either think your a creep or perv if your prefer women’s wrestling and figures. Some people think more than one or 2 women’s matches is too much and ridiculous. It’s not. It’s preference and I don’t understand why so many people crap on women’s wrestling when I find it more enjoyable. To each their own, but I’m sick of people acting like women’s wrestling isn’t good or shouldn’t be a thing. I get the first guy said it was too much/too long, but that implies that’s a bad thing. Whatever Women's wrestling does well with Men 50+. It's proven. For the younger demos more women's wrestling drives viewers away (unless it's really top notch). Not everyone who's into women's wrestling is a pervert. However, everyone who's into Alexa Bliss acting like a sexy child fits that description well. I'm honestly thankful that Stephanie created Women's wrestling in 2015. there is definitely a big difference between people who think women should have competitive quality divisions and those who fanboy to a weird creepy degree. happened with aj lee, is happening with Alexa.
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Post by shenmue on Jan 19, 2021 15:37:04 GMT -5
Jericho's promo when he interrupted the rock where he goes on to give an anti wwf rant sums up my actual feeling about the current product.
So much filler on raw. Add the almost hour of adverts and 20-30 mins of recaps make this show unwatchable live.
I sound like tang from last year, but he was ranting even on some decent episodes of raw.
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Post by bWo on Jan 19, 2021 22:40:12 GMT -5
I think the women would benefit from a smaller ring. The extra time it takes for them to run the ropes is noticeable. The ropes don't even have any "spring" in them because most of the women don't weigh enough or move fast enough to cause any visible rebound. I think an 18x18 ring with looser and lower ropes would make a big difference. Top rope is 54" from the apron. I would lower that 48" so the women can hit the ropes with their upper/middle back instead of their armpits.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 23:00:58 GMT -5
I found an old interview with Naito and Io Shirai. They talked about rings. At the time Io was saying stardom didn't actually own a ring, they just rented so they never knew what they were getting. She talked about how they would all have to adjust their moves etc and decide what they could do each day depending on the ring they had.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jan 20, 2021 2:30:18 GMT -5
womens wrestling isn’t inherently crap but go off i guess I never get the “too much women’s wrestling” argument. The “I don’t watch wrestling to be titillated” argument. Id rather watch pretty women wrestle and be catty than grown men act like middle school/high school bullies. I’m just a no good hetero cis male though. I’m probably hurting someone’s feelings that loves 3 hours of hairy sweaty men locking up.... Anyone saying they don't watch wrestling for sex and violence is absolutely ing full of it. Women are booked differently now, but the reason the fans watch them hasn't changed, and there's nowt wrong with that. My wife watches in case she gets to see Tyler Bate because she thinks he is well fit, and she likes to see all these handsome, muscular, oily men wearing very little, and there's nowt wrong with that either!
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Post by Liquid Swordsman on Jan 20, 2021 4:51:32 GMT -5
When I watched Alexa during that match, this was the first thing I thought of.
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