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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2021 15:23:11 GMT -5
the screwjob for sure!
would be happy to NEVER hear about it again!
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Post by PJ on Feb 7, 2021 17:43:02 GMT -5
The whole blind love of the Attitude Era. To me it’s no better or worse than any other era. It had stuff that was good, and a lot that wasn’t just like any other past era yet it’s talked about like it’s the greatest thing ever. cliffhanger, soap opera TV and lets be honest, it was pretty damn great televison at that. The ratings proved it. Add to that some of the greatest superstars and storylines in company history and you have the top 2 if not 1 greatest era in wrestling history. People say it has aged badly but that is not what wrestling is about. But even still, people will always remember and speak about it fondly, so that shows it clearly has stood the test of time. It had way more good than bad, and much of that good is the best thing wrestling has ever seen. Did it? Or was it just the pubescent boys loved the the divas shaking their t&a and the crotch chops? I could have done without that as well as Too Cool, Rikishi and his stink faces, Shane McMahon, The Mean Street Posse, Mideon, Shamrock and Blackman. None of that was entertaining and not what I tuned in to see. |
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Post by jason88cubs on Feb 7, 2021 18:23:16 GMT -5
It's the fact it made wrestling must see, cliffhanger, soap opera TV and lets be honest, it was pretty damn great televison at that. The ratings proved it. Add to that some of the greatest superstars and storylines in company history and you have the top 2 if not 1 greatest era in wrestling history. People say it has aged badly but that is not what wrestling is about. But even still, people will always remember and speak about it fondly, so that shows it clearly has stood the test of time. It had way more good than bad, and much of that good is the best thing wrestling has ever seen. Did it? Or was it just the pubescent boys loved the the divas shaking their t&a and the crotch chops? I could have done without that as well as Too Cool, Rikishi and his stink faces, Shane McMahon, The Mean Street Posse, Mideon, Shamrock and Blackman. None of that was entertaining and not what I tuned in to see. But you only named a few things
Undertake, Kane, The Rock, Stone Cold, Vince, the tag division.
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Post by PJ on Feb 7, 2021 20:10:22 GMT -5
Did it? Or was it just the pubescent boys loved the the divas shaking their t&a and the crotch chops? I could have done without that as well as Too Cool, Rikishi and his stink faces, Shane McMahon, The Mean Street Posse, Mideon, Shamrock and Blackman. None of that was entertaining and not what I tuned in to see. But you only named a few things Undertake, Kane, The Rock, Stone Cold, Vince, the tag division.
I did only name a few things but they were a big part of the Attitude era which sucked. And my original post was the Attitude era was just like every other era where it had it’s good and it’s bad. But people talk about it as if they watched it through rose colored glasses where everything was great. And my point was it wasn’t. |
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Post by K5 on Feb 7, 2021 23:25:52 GMT -5
The whole blind love of the Attitude Era. To me it’s no better or worse than any other era. It had stuff that was good, and a lot that wasn’t just like any other past era yet it’s talked about like it’s the greatest thing ever. It's the fact it made wrestling must see, cliffhanger, soap opera TV and lets be honest, it was pretty damn great televison at that. The ratings proved it. Add to that some of the greatest superstars and storylines in company history and you have the top 2 if not 1 greatest era in wrestling history. People say it has aged badly but that is not what wrestling is about. But even still, people will always remember and speak about it fondly, so that shows it clearly has stood the test of time. It had way more good than bad, and much of that good is the best thing wrestling has ever seen. I can't think of a single match in the attitude era that can even lace the boots of a Flair/Steamboat encounter outside HBK/Taker or Austin/Bret (both in 97 right before the attitude era took full hilt) the attitude era may have had some great moments, but it had endless bad ones as well that are major stinkers. |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Feb 8, 2021 2:26:43 GMT -5
It's the fact it made wrestling must see, cliffhanger, soap opera TV and lets be honest, it was pretty damn great televison at that. The ratings proved it. Add to that some of the greatest superstars and storylines in company history and you have the top 2 if not 1 greatest era in wrestling history. People say it has aged badly but that is not what wrestling is about. But even still, people will always remember and speak about it fondly, so that shows it clearly has stood the test of time. It had way more good than bad, and much of that good is the best thing wrestling has ever seen. I can't think of a single match in the attitude era that can even lace the boots of a Flair/Steamboat encounter outside HBK/Taker or Austin/Bret (both in 97 right before the attitude era took full hilt) the attitude era may have had some great moments, but it had endless bad ones as well that are major stinkers. Different kind of main events. The AE main event style was developed because Austin couldn't do long clinics. But there was still plenty of great wrestling. By 02 it was more about the match and the main event was made up more of guys who were having really good midcard matches in the AE like Jericho, Angle & then Benoit & Eddie. People focus on the bad alot when it comes to the Attitude Era, but I'll put the period of January 2000 - April 2001 against any era in wrestling history and it's coming out on top. |
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Post by JokerFC on Feb 8, 2021 7:24:02 GMT -5
It's the fact it made wrestling must see, cliffhanger, soap opera TV and lets be honest, it was pretty damn great televison at that. The ratings proved it. Add to that some of the greatest superstars and storylines in company history and you have the top 2 if not 1 greatest era in wrestling history. People say it has aged badly but that is not what wrestling is about. But even still, people will always remember and speak about it fondly, so that shows it clearly has stood the test of time. It had way more good than bad, and much of that good is the best thing wrestling has ever seen. I can't think of a single match in the attitude era that can even lace the boots of a Flair/Steamboat encounter outside HBK/Taker or Austin/Bret (both in 97 right before the attitude era took full hilt) the attitude era may have had some great moments, but it had endless bad ones as well that are major stinkers. I can think of a few... but in fairness? Its all a matter of perspective at the end of the day. |
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Post by K5 on Feb 8, 2021 9:47:22 GMT -5
I can't think of a single match in the attitude era that can even lace the boots of a Flair/Steamboat encounter outside HBK/Taker or Austin/Bret (both in 97 right before the attitude era took full hilt) the attitude era may have had some great moments, but it had endless bad ones as well that are major stinkers. Different kind of main events. The AE main event style was developed because Austin couldn't do long clinics. But there was still plenty of great wrestling. By 02 it was more about the match and the main event was made up more of guys who were having really good midcard matches in the AE like Jericho, Angle & then Benoit & Eddie. People focus on the bad alot when it comes to the Attitude Era, but I'll put the period of January 2000 - April 2001 against any era in wrestling history and it's coming out on top. those are all wcw workers that had to come over before the matches started and even still you had those guys doing some real dumb stuff at times. taste is taste, but for actual wrestling the attitude era leaves a lot to be desired. |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Feb 8, 2021 11:31:30 GMT -5
Different kind of main events. The AE main event style was developed because Austin couldn't do long clinics. But there was still plenty of great wrestling. By 02 it was more about the match and the main event was made up more of guys who were having really good midcard matches in the AE like Jericho, Angle & then Benoit & Eddie. People focus on the bad alot when it comes to the Attitude Era, but I'll put the period of January 2000 - April 2001 against any era in wrestling history and it's coming out on top. those are all wcw workers that had to come over before the matches started and even still you had those guys doing some real dumb stuff at times. taste is taste, but for actual wrestling the attitude era leaves a lot to be desired. There is good wrestling matches on most AE PPVs. No matter how angle heavy the shows were there was always the workers who you knew would put in a shift. D'Lo, Owen, JJ, X-Pac, Shamrock. Then by late '99 the tag divison got really good meaning there would be usually 2-3 good wrestling matches on each card. Not even counting the main event which pretty much always delivered anyway. |
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Post by rowdy1971 on Feb 9, 2021 9:42:10 GMT -5
Mick Foley and his dumb ass "Hell in the Cell" everything.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Feb 9, 2021 17:38:09 GMT -5
Mick Foley and his dumb ass "Hell in the Cell" everything. Just saw a WWE ad for the Network that had footage of his fall and man it was weird to not hear JR screaming "Good God Almighty That Killed Him!" As for the getting tired of it, nah don't think I will. |
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Feb 15, 2021 23:09:44 GMT -5
those are all wcw workers that had to come over before the matches started and even still you had those guys doing some real dumb stuff at times. taste is taste, but for actual wrestling the attitude era leaves a lot to be desired. There is good wrestling matches on most AE PPVs. No matter how angle heavy the shows were there was always the workers who you knew would put in a shift. D'Lo, Owen, JJ, X-Pac, Shamrock. Then by late '99 the tag divison got really good meaning there would be usually 2-3 good wrestling matches on each card. Not even counting the main event which pretty much always delivered anyway. 1999 may have been one of the hottest years the company ever had, but there definitely wasn't much good wrestling involved at all. Things slowly improved and 2000 ended up being one of the best years of all-time from a match quality standpoint. |
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Post by Retrospect on Feb 16, 2021 0:15:59 GMT -5
The Bret Hart screwjob has been talked about to it’s death. I mean it’s iconic and everything but damn...I’m over it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 13:11:48 GMT -5
I hate when people say "_____ killed WCW".......Jamie Kellner killed WCW, nothing more....nothing less |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Feb 17, 2021 21:34:11 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio heavyweight champ
Shawn michaels heavyweight champ
Chris Benoit heavyweight champ
Eddie Guerrero heavyweight champ
Chris Jericho heavyweight champ
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Post by Kill Em' All on Feb 18, 2021 2:15:26 GMT -5
Finger Poke of Doom; it didn't kill WCW. It killed off interest. WCW was a still a viable ratings threat through the first part of 1999. Finger Poke of Doom; only meant worse to come. With the NWO Elite faction; which made no sense. And by 1999; the NWO angle needed to die. Hogan's face run; and the subsequent bs. Like it sounds like just perfect s*** story. Oh NWO controls everything but decays; and emerges in civil war. Just to fool everyone; and form ultimate even bigger NWO. But; Hogans going to totally go red and yellow again later in the year. Just sounds so gross. Like I don't see Hogan/Flair feud over a title belt in 1999 sounds gross. It almost sounds like the Heros of Wrestling styled event sieging WCW; lol. Just wanna add Hogan going back to red and yellow in 2002 paid off so much more and much more then the stupid ass 1999 turn.
WCW was owned by a media based company; it was not it's own entity. When it started to be more of a expense; and was a obvious #2 to the WWF a network executive group made that choice. Yes; WWF damn well kicked in WCW's knees. But the final shot to the head was not WWF. WCW was nowhere near say the decay of TNA in 2011 onward. WCW in 2001 also started to stabilize. And I think; WCW started to get his legs moving slowly.
DX Tank one gets old. Montreal gets old. Some of the Attitude Era; I loved some of it. I loved the crash TV; but there was a load of bs filler in that burger you can say.
Daniel Bryan's push being planned; because let's face it the fallout of the Rumble and Punk leaving got us WM 30. Nothing else. Not; discrediting how nicely it fell in place and how much Bryan deserved it though.
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