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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 16:59:27 GMT -5
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Mar 29, 2021 18:31:06 GMT -5
If this is how we get Raw Roulette back, I’m for it
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 31, 2021 18:04:55 GMT -5
If Draft Kings had done their due diligence before inking the contract, they would have realised that the fed is dead and this is a bad investment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 18:07:06 GMT -5
I just don’t see how you can gamble on a scripted television show. Can people gamble on what storyline the writers will go with on a sitcom? I guess people will gamble on anything.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Mar 31, 2021 19:17:25 GMT -5
I just don’t see how you can gamble on a scripted television show. Can people gamble on what storyline the writers will go with on a sitcom? I guess people will gamble on anything. For wrestling it’s very easy. We don’t know the outcome. Sure people can get the odds and all but that goes for any sport, predetermined or otherwise. The odds aren’t sure things, so unless someone can read minds or see the future, you just gamble on the results and start a fantasy pool or whatever crap people do with Draft Kings. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 23:51:01 GMT -5
I mean, I haven't (yet), but I'd totally gamble on pro wrestling. Why not. As long as the oddamakers don't know the outcome it's no less legit than gambling on anything else. But I suppose yes, that does also fit the narrative that some people will gamble on anything, because I can't think of many things I wouldn't gamble on lol.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Apr 1, 2021 0:19:14 GMT -5
I mean, I haven't (yet), but I'd totally gamble on pro wrestling. Why not. As long as the oddamakers don't know the outcome it's no less legit than gambling on anything else. But I suppose yes, that does also fit the narrative that some people will gamble on anything, because I can't think of many things I wouldn't gamble on lol. Yeah I don't understand the issue unless they get some kind of inside info about the outcomes. I lose money on the NFL,NBA and NASCAR all the time I might as well give WWE a shot. |
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Apr 1, 2021 7:27:26 GMT -5
If Draft Kings had done their due diligence before inking the contract, they would have realised that the fed is dead and this is a bad investment. They're "failing upwards"... |
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Post by hitmancmedge on Apr 1, 2021 7:29:46 GMT -5
If Draft Kings had done their due diligence before inking the contract, they would have realised that the fed is dead and this is a bad investment. I know I’m shocked that a company ignored the internet fan’s opinion and strictly looked at all the money Wwe is making. Shocking business strategy. |
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Post by rowdy1971 on Apr 1, 2021 8:42:33 GMT -5
If Draft Kings had done their due diligence before inking the contract, they would have realised that the fed is dead and this is a bad investment. Ok, I'll bite. How is the fed "dead"?? It sucks these days and there is no denying that. But to call it "dead" is really such a silly statement. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Apr 1, 2021 8:59:07 GMT -5
It seems like this should be illegal. Betting on something that is predetermined and WWE controls and could easily manipulate?
What's stopping WWE from looking at the betting analytics and changing the story because of it and screwing everyone so WWE and Draft Kings makes a huge profit?
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Apr 1, 2021 9:29:19 GMT -5
If Draft Kings had done their due diligence before inking the contract, they would have realised that the fed is dead and this is a bad investment. Ok, I'll bite. How is the fed "dead"?? It sucks these days and there is no denying that. But to call it "dead" is really such a silly statement. Do people really not get the gimmick or am I the dumb one? |
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Post by rowdy1971 on Apr 1, 2021 10:23:24 GMT -5
Ok, I'll bite. How is the fed "dead"?? It sucks these days and there is no denying that. But to call it "dead" is really such a silly statement. Do people really not get the gimmick or am I the dumb one? Ah yes. "Gimmick" posters on message boards. That's even siller.  |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Apr 1, 2021 15:08:12 GMT -5
Ok, I'll bite. How is the fed "dead"?? It’s being kept afloat by these big money deals that were likely made by Vince’s “Jedi mind tricks” fooling other companies into partnering with them, the same way he convinced wrestlers to go along with his bad booking for decades. USA and Fox signed TV rights contracts expecting much higher ratings than Raw and SmackDown are getting (source: TV/business expert Dave Meltzer), and one day they will wake up and realise that Vince is taking them for a ride. I would have thought the buyer’s remorse would have kicked in by now and the networks would already be looking for loopholes to get out of the contracts, but somehow NBC have gone on to give them even more money now with the Peacock thing, which again is proof that they are being fooled by WWE - and that they will eventually wake up and the whole house of cards will fall. Now you might say that Raw and SmackDown are still at/near the top of the rankings just like they were twenty years ago, and that TV execs know more about their business than I do. You might say that I shouldn’t just go along with Dave Meltzer’s agenda, parroting his nonsense. You might even say that WWE is a highly successful, stable and secure business that has outgrown the wrasslin’ business and will be around for many years to come; and the notion that the company’s continued success is “failing upwards” is just bitter stupidity from people who don’t want to admit that Vince knows what he’s doing. That he has more of a clue about the wrestling business than some clown on a forum does. And yeah, if you did say those things, you’d definitely be right, but the important thing is Fed Bad. No reporter has studied WWE financials & ratings more than Dave all these years, so he clearly is in a position to speak on the issue. The Fox & Peacock deals & now this Draft Kings one are coming through despite WWE being the least mainstream it has been since 1997. The failing upwards brigade maybe don't realize in this climate that wins & losses don't matter, ratings don't matter which means how bad the product is doesn't matter as long its not WCW 2000. But it's not really possible to be WCW in 2000 in this day and age either if you're WWE. If you look at network vs cable in sports right now it's eye opening too. One interesting variable in all this is AEW. This will only continue to heat up. Keep in mind we don't know their true potential yet due to NXT competition. AEW will help alleviate WWF's product slump at some point. Ratings can only get so low, that being said even if the show was good right now, the rating still wouldn't be way more than it is. Regardless, it's gonna be an interesting next few years. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 1, 2021 15:18:36 GMT -5
No reporter has studied WWE financials & ratings more than Dave all these years, so he clearly is in a position to speak on the issue. Exactly. And it’s like he said on Wrestling Observer Radio last week: “Ummm, so... well it’s like - again - it’s like they, uh, the the... ummm... they, like, it’s one thing to - well, they weren’t the first to - but if you, um, it’s... uh... okay, so, y’know, they always - and, again - it’s not like, uh, but it’s like, y’know... and the thing is, it’s - well, it should - it’s like - it should be - but they, you know what they think, y’know, and it’s like, well... uh, yeah they’re gonna do it... um, probably they think it’s, umm, uh, y’know - but what can you do, really? And then it’s like - again - uhhh... I knew it was, uh, I knew they were, like, I mean, like - okay, so - I had heard about it, but uhhh, y’know, it’s - again - it’s not exactly, umm, well, it is and it isn’t... and then it’s like.... it’s, well, uh, it’s, like, uh, it’s, y’know, it’s whatever.” Sometimes I wish my $11.99 went towards Dave getting an editor for WOR. |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Apr 1, 2021 15:22:27 GMT -5
Reading would be your friend then, not listening.
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Post by JOEJOEJOEJOE on Apr 1, 2021 15:27:58 GMT -5
Im finna be rich then cause I havent gotten a ppv prediction wrong for the past 2 years
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 16:58:45 GMT -5
It seems like this should be illegal. Betting on something that is predetermined and WWE controls and could easily manipulate? What's stopping WWE from looking at the betting analytics and changing the story because of it and screwing everyone so WWE and Draft Kings makes a huge profit? Theoretically yeah this is completely ripe for exploitation. I think the saving grace that will keep it relatively above board is on Draft Kings side. I gotta figure in terms of their slice of the pie this is still pretty small potatoes compared to their sports betting for NFL, NBA, etc. (Not that I really know much about Draft Kings at all, I could be totally talking out of my poop chute here). Don't know that they'd make enough money of WWE betters to make it worth the risk if they got caught. |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Apr 1, 2021 17:25:29 GMT -5
I just don’t see how you can gamble on a scripted television show. Can people gamble on what storyline the writers will go with on a sitcom? I guess people will gamble on anything. It happens, I vaguely remember around WrestleMania 30 there being 10-1 odds in the UK on Lesnar beating the Undertaker and to this day I regret not putting £100 on Brock for fun. We have bets for the weirdest things in the UK, there was a bet for who was a murderer (WF:UK’ers “who killed Lucy Beale?”) in a popular TV series called Eastenders which I also guessed right, I’d probably have won so much money but I don’t gamble lol |
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Apr 2, 2021 11:45:03 GMT -5
too bad i cant do draft kings in my state
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